Guinea pig part 2

suavecarve said:
I keep coming back to the point, what has it got to do with HMG for the rules to enter France. Why are they imposing upon us (or trying to) a paid for test to enter france ?

HMG should be setting the rules for return, not for exit. France should set the rules for entering their country
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Perhaps it's to ensure that the people travelling on transport who are within close proximity of each other don't spread it around on their way out, become ill and put extra strain on the destination countries' health systems. This will be the vast majority of travellers, not just the small number in MHs who may use the Chunnel so hardly 'meet' anyone else.
 
Nyvern said:
Just phoned a french testing centre for a PCR test prior to returning to the UK. Nearly all those centres give free testing to EU and non EU national with no booking required. You just walk in and get tested with result online within 10 hours. They don't open at the same time. Some do morning testing while some are only open in the afternoon. To find out where these centres are, search on google for the area you prefer. Going for a test next week. See what happens...
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Could you post the google search link as I’m due back to the U.K. on the 21st I’m hoping rules are changed by then
 
Minxy Girl said:
Perhaps it's to ensure that the people travelling on transport who are within close proximity of each other don't spread it around on their way out, become ill and put extra strain on the destination countries' health systems. This will be the vast majority of travellers, not just the small number in MHs who may use the Chunnel so hardly 'meet' anyone else.
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Thats an issue for the country that are accepting them, just like it is our issue for when people come here.

And if that were the reason, because of a moral or international mutual benefit, then why make us pay individually for their self imposed standard.
 
suavecarve said:
Thats an issue for the country that are accepting them, just like it is our issue for when people come here.

And if that were the reason, because of a moral or international mutual benefit, then why make us pay individually for their self imposed standard.
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It's still an issue for us too, why would we allow people to mix on flights for example for a holiday and risk others getting I'll ... Why is it any different to allowing people to sit next to each other at Wimbledon where they've had to do testing too I believe.

I would say more but I'm using my phone to respond and hate not being able to 'touch type' on a keyboard.😐
 
Puddleduck said:
Just my view but I don't think the NHS should be paying for testing just to allow people to travel. NHS Scotland don't pay for yellow fever vaccinations (and probably others) and I don't really see why this is any different.
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yellow fever isnt a big problem in britain where as covid is seeing as its perfectly ok to take a daily test free,i cant see why the nhs test isnt acceptable world wide. I can understand self tests being un acceptable

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Minxy Girl said:
It's still an issue for us too, why would we allow people to mix on flights for example for a holiday and risk others getting I'll ... Why is it any different to allowing people to sit next to each other at Wimbledon where they've had to do testing too I believe.

I would say more but I'm using my phone to respond and hate not being able to 'touch type' on a keyboard.😐
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its not just the flights, they're apparently mixing people from different destinstions in arrival s and customs. Surely with amount of flights there currently isn't, this would be an easy one to solve.
 
suavecarve said:
Thats an issue for the country that are accepting them, just like it is our issue for when people come here.

And if that were the reason, because of a moral or international mutual benefit, then why make us pay individually for their self imposed standard.
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Because they're reluctant to relinquish their new found control?
 
Nyvern said:
Just phoned a french testing centre for a PCR test prior to returning to the UK. Nearly all those centres give free testing to EU and non EU national with no booking required. You just walk in and get tested with result online within 10 hours. They don't open at the same time. Some do morning testing while some are only open in the afternoon. To find out where these centres are, search on google for the area you prefer. Going for a test next week. See what happens...
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Just to let you know that on the french news last night they were saying that within the next few days (can’t remember the exact date) tests will no longer be free to non residents. Although I gather some labs, such as our local one, have already been charging them
 
suavecarve said:
I keep coming back to the point, what has it got to do with HMG for the rules to enter France. Why are they imposing upon us (or trying to) a paid for test to enter france ?

HMG should be setting the rules for return, not for exit. France should set the rules for entering their country
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There not ! Its a requirement that has been distorted on here and perhaps even helped a little by me who originally took it for granted the UK Gov. would mirror the French Gov. web site. They didn't! Here's the actual wording on the French Gov. web site , no mention of the word free or NHS.

2) You wish to enter Metropolitan France​

2.1. Mobility rules and regulations​

No restrictions shall apply when entering metropolitan France from a green list country or territory.

2.2. Health control measures​

If you are already vaccinated, you must present proof of vaccination status and a sworn statement attesting to the absence of symptoms of covid-19 infection and contact with a confirmed case of covid-19.

If you are not vaccinated, you must present the transport company and border control authorities with a negative PCR or antigenic test no more than 72 hours prior to departure (departure of first flight in case of connecting flights). Children aged below eleven years are exempt from testing. You must also present a sworn statement attesting to the absence of symptoms of covid-19 infection and contact with a confirmed case of covid-19.

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PhilandMena said:
There not ! Its a requirement that has been distorted on here and perhaps even helped a little by me who originally took it for granted the UK Gov. would mirror the French Gov. web site. They didn't! Here's the actual wording on the French Gov. web site , no mention of the word free or NHS.

2) You wish to enter Metropolitan France​

2.1. Mobility rules and regulations​

No restrictions shall apply when entering metropolitan France from a green list country or territory.

2.2. Health control measures​

If you are already vaccinated, you must present proof of vaccination status and a sworn statement attesting to the absence of symptoms of covid-19 infection and contact with a confirmed case of covid-19.

If you are not vaccinated, you must present the transport company and border control authorities with a negative PCR or antigenic test no more than 72 hours prior to departure (departure of first flight in case of connecting flights). Children aged below eleven years are exempt from testing. You must also present a sworn statement attesting to the absence of symptoms of covid-19 infection and contact with a confirmed case of covid-19.
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Are you able to forward the link of the French site you’ve cut and pasted, please?
 
Ingwe said:
Are you able to forward the link of the French site you’ve cut and pasted, please?
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Just for you. Half way down the page is the requirements for Amber listed countries.

www.interieur.gouv.fr

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Le site officiel du Ministère de l'intérieur : Actualités, votre sécurité, vos démarches administratives, collectivités territoriales, immigration, préfet, gendarmerie, police, sécurité civile, sapeurs-pompiers, secrétariat général, sécurité routière, élections.
www.interieur.gouv.fr www.interieur.gouv.fr
 
PhilandMena said:
There not ! Its a requirement that has been distorted on here and perhaps even helped a little by me who originally took it for granted the UK Gov. would mirror the French Gov. web site. They didn't! Here's the actual wording on the French Gov. web site , no mention of the word free or NHS.

2) You wish to enter Metropolitan France​

2.1. Mobility rules and regulations​

No restrictions shall apply when entering metropolitan France from a green list country or territory.

2.2. Health control measures​

If you are already vaccinated, you must present proof of vaccination status and a sworn statement attesting to the absence of symptoms of covid-19 infection and contact with a confirmed case of covid-19.

If you are not vaccinated, you must present the transport company and border control authorities with a negative PCR or antigenic test no more than 72 hours prior to departure (departure of first flight in case of connecting flights). Children aged below eleven years are exempt from testing. You must also present a sworn statement attesting to the absence of symptoms of covid-19 infection and contact with a confirmed case of covid-19.
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I’m possibly getting this wrong, so bear with me. Those regulations appear to only apply, if you are travelling from a green listed country. Don’t France have us listed as amber?
 

2.2. Health control measures​

All travellers arriving from an amber list country must present the transport company and border control authorities with a negative PCR test less than 72 hours prior to departure (first flight departure in case of connecting travel) or a negative antigen test less than 48 hours prior to departure (first flight departure in case of connecting flight). Children aged below eleven years are exempt from testing.

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Poutie57 said:
Could you post the google search link as I’m due back to the U.K. on the 21st I’m hoping rules are changed by then
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Sorry, change of regulation from 7th July. 49€ for PCR, 29€ for antigen
 
138go said:
I’m possibly getting this wrong, so bear with me. Those regulations appear to only apply, if you are travelling from a green listed country. Don’t France have us listed as amber?
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You are! See my post on #402
 
PhilandMena said:
You are! See my post on #402
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I’ve read what you posted and the attachment. That’s for green list countries. If you click on requirements for amber list, which we are as far as France is concerned, it says this:


2.2. Health control measures​

All travellers arriving from an amber list country must present the transport company and border control authorities with a negative PCR test less than 72 hours prior to departure (first flight departure in case of connecting travel) or a negative antigen test less than 48 hours prior to departure (first flight departure in case of connecting flight). Children aged below eleven years are exempt from testing.
 
138go said:
I’ve read what you posted and the attachment. That’s for green list countries. If you click on requirements for amber list, which we are as far as France is concerned, it says this:


2.2. Health control measures​

All travellers arriving from an amber list country must present the transport company and border control authorities with a negative PCR test less than 72 hours prior to departure (first flight departure in case of connecting travel) or a negative antigen test less than 48 hours prior to departure (first flight departure in case of connecting flight). Children aged below eleven years are exempt from testing.
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And ?
 
138go said:
and, what am I getting wrong?
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I'm a bit confused about your statement what am I getting wrong ??? Below is the requirement for entering France from an Amber country, i.e. The UK which you have already acknowledged! Perhaps its something else your trying to raise ? I don't know !

2) You wish to enter French national territory​

2.1 Traffic regime​

If you are vaccinated , entry into metropolitan territory is not subject to any restriction.

If you are not vaccinated , you must produce a compelling reason to enter metropolitan territory. The indicative list of compelling reasons can be found on the certificate of entry into metropolitan territory which can be downloaded below.

Certificate of entry into mainland France:​

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2.2. Health control measures​

All travelers coming from a country in the orange zone must present to the transport company and the border control authorities a negative PCR test dated less than 72 hours before departure (departure of the first flight in case of travel with connection) or a negative antigen test less than 48 hours before departure (departure of the first flight in case of travel with a connection). Children under eleven are exempt from testing.

Vaccinated travelers must also present:

  • a sworn statement attesting to the absence of symptoms of covid-19 infection and contact with a confirmed case of covid-19;
  • proof of vaccination status.
Unvaccinated travelers should also present:

  • a sworn statement attesting to the absence of symptoms of covid-19 infection and contact with a confirmed case of covid-19;
  • a sworn undertaking to undergo the antigen test or the biological examination which will be carried out on arrival in mainland France;
  • a pledge on honor to self-isolate for seven days and a pledge on honor to undergo a virological screening biological examination (PCR) at the end of the isolation period.

Commitment on honor:​

 
PhilandMena said:
I'm a bit confused about your statement what am I getting wrong ??? Below is the requirement for entering France from an Amber country, i.e. The UK which you have already acknowledged! Perhaps its something else your trying to raise ? I don't know !
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I think the confusion arose because you first gave a quote about the requirements for entering France from a green country which is what 138go was responding to, you then posted a link making reference to the amber country requirement which the UK currently is ... personally I prefer purple but there aren't any countries of that colour! :giggle:
 
Minxy Girl said:
I think the confusion arose because you first gave a quote about the requirements for entering France from a green country which is what 138go was responding to, you then posted a link making reference to the amber country requirement which the UK currently is ... personally I prefer purple but there aren't any countries of that colour! :giggle:
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I think you're right Minxy, thanks. :giggle:
 
suavecarve said:
What a lovely phrase, with a slightly different meaning for MITHRANDIR

"I m just going off to France, I may be a while"
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Aye wasn’t so good for the guy leaving Captain Scott’s tent!

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The Dark site sounds interesting I take it that you into Astronomy, if so wish you clear skies and wouldn’t mind some posted pictures . Have a smooth and safe journey who knows we may meet up at Kelling Heath sometime.
 
Dorwyn said:
He claims that France will win the Euros, and certainly will beat us. I couldn't really defend that.
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Hope you are stopping on the way back to remind him how it went!;)
 
Friends went over on Monday from Folkestone and no one checked ,the same on the French side .👍
 
I thought I was reading a thread created by MITHRANDIR which details his travels.... It now appears I am reading about the requirements of vaccinations for entering France...... Talk about thread creep....
Any chance on getting this back on track MITHRANDIR

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