Getting back to Europe

[suavecarve]

COVID-19, like leprosy and the bubonic plague was, is highly contagious!

Why on earth would you travel overseas when the infection and death rates are so high?

Just because YOU have had your "jabs" does not mean that you are not a carrier and acting as a mobile petri dish.

Also, many hospitals in Europe are at breaking point - what do you do if you have a medical emergency?

Not trying to be a killjoy but I simply do not understand why you can't just wait it out!

I think you ll find that everybody has to wait it out. Until at least 17th May, when it may or may not be legal to go, we may or may not be allowed in, and we may or may not have to Q10 upon return
All of those things will determine whether we can go or not, with each person making their own risk assessment.
I strongly suspect the infection and deaths rates will not be so high in order to determine whether the respective powers that be allow us to go and the hospitals will be emptier before they allow us over.

In response to your last question, HMG determine our exit and return and EU/Country determine our entry to them. If they allow us to go and return, why should I not lawfully go ?

 

[busby]

COVID-19, like leprosy and the bubonic plague was, is highly contagious!

Why on earth would you travel overseas when the infection and death rates are so high?

Just because YOU have had your "jabs" does not mean that you are not a carrier and acting as a mobile petri dish.

Also, many hospitals in Europe are at breaking point - what do you do if you have a medical emergency?

Not trying to be a killjoy but I simply do not understand why you can't just wait it out!

Don't think leprosy was contagious,,although back then people thought it was..BUSBY.

 

[jongood]

COVID-19, like leprosy and the bubonic plague was, is highly contagious!

Why on earth would you travel overseas when the infection and death rates are so high?

Just because YOU have had your "jabs" does not mean that you are not a carrier and acting as a mobile petri dish.

Also, many hospitals in Europe are at breaking point - what do you do if you have a medical emergency?

Not trying to be a killjoy but I simply do not understand why you can't just wait it out!

Nobody is making you go mate.

 

[jongood]

Has anyone heard anything about who might be letting us in?

 

[Minxy]

Don't think leprosy was contagious,,although back then people thought it was..BUSBY.

Actually it is but not as bad as CV.

Leprosy, also known as Hanson's disease, isn't that contagious. You can catch it only if you come into close and repeated contact with nose and mouth droplets from someone with untreated leprosy​

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[Lynne Roy]

Has anyone heard anything about who might be letting us in?

Nowhere we can get a ferry to on the likely list so far, but I am sure things will change x

 

[gus-lopez]

Have to say we are really looking forward a week in France, maybe around The Picos (might take the Wing).

With your luck that means they will go on the red list the week after you arrive.

France ICU at 117% so not much room for ill folks even if not Covid related

Did you see todays report from Aussie minister that it might be years before they allow travel into/outof Aus?

 

[bobnick]

With your luck that means they will go on the red list the week after you arrive.

Did you see todays report from Aussie minister that it might be years before they allow travel into/outof Aus?

If there was one place i would get back on a plane tomorrow for would be Aussie. Yes i read that also, upsetting for me. There you go, my luck again.

 

[spitfire]

With your luck that means they will go on the red list the week after you arrive.

Did you see todays report from Aussie minister that it might be years before they allow travel into/outof Aus?

No but if that is true I may never see my daughter again :-(

 

[delta juliet]

Did you see todays report from Aussie minister that it might be years before they allow travel into/outof Aus?

I doubt Aus will be unique with that stance

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[suavecarve]

No but if that is true I may never see my daughter again :-(

I would suspect that once things settle down shortly (hopefully) that they will start looking at doublejabbees and entry for them under testing conditions.

Hope is not all lost for you and it is paper talk (I think)

 

[spitfire]

I would suspect that once things settle down shortly (hopefully) that they will start looking at doublejabbees and entry for them under testing conditions.

Hope is not all lost for you and it is paper talk (I think)

I so hope not . Have been pinning hopes on her saying not before 2022. Two years since I have seen her . She was due here July 2020 but obviously never happened . First vaccination today and second 12 May so fingers crossed for next year ! Cost of compulsory hotel quarantine for sure but worth every penny

 

[gus-lopez]

No but if that is true I may never see my daughter again :-(

Yes our youngest daughter & the Grand children live there.

 

[spitfire]

Yes our youngest daughter & the Grand children live there.

So feel for you . Is hard . We have seen each other nearly every year since she left 23 years ago so difficult to have no definite end to this mess .
Maybe why I have little sympathy with the I need to go on holiday woes .

 

[suavecarve]

So feel for you . Is hard . We have seen each other nearly every year since she left 23 years ago so difficult to have no definite end to this mess .
Maybe why I have little sympathy with the I need to go on holiday woes .

Its not i "Need" to go on holiday
It is (in my case) "I want to take to take my lawful opportunity to go on holiday" (when or if it comes)

And that is the difference.

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[jongood]

Its not i "Need" to go on holiday
It is (in my case) "I want to take to take my lawful opportunity to go on holiday" (when or if it comes)

And that is the difference.

Some people forget that not everyone is retired.

 

[busby]

Its not i "Need" to go on holiday
It is (in my case) "I want to take to take my lawful opportunity to go on holiday" (when or if it comes)

And that is the difference.

And as you get older the time to get away reduces quickly,,,BUSBY..

 

[jumar]

Some people forget that not everyone is retired.

Thank goodness for that....could you imagine the Post Office Queues and the congestion at supermarket checkouts....... shouldn't be allowed out on the streets !!!!.what? Who me.... I'm just a middle age Pensioner...a young 69 years....

 

[jumartoo]

Thank goodness for that....could you imagine the Post Office Queues and the congestion at supermarket checkouts....... shouldn't be allowed out on the streets !!!!.what? Who me.... I'm just a middle age Pensioner...a young 69 years....

Really??? You're 69 just where have the years gone?

 

[carolyn]

Actually it is but not as bad as CV.

Leprosy, also known as Hanson's disease, isn't that contagious. You can catch it only if you come into close and repeated contact with nose and mouth droplets from someone with untreated leprosy​

You are correct, Hansen, a Norwegian doctor identified that it was caused by a bacterium . There is a museum in Bergen Norway which was where we were. I upset out tour guide who told everyone that he discovered the cure, which he didn’t, so I corrected her. We were a small group on a GB motorhome tour so the people forgave me even if the tourguide didn’t! Nick and I went to the museum, it was shut, it was a shabby little affair, clearly there aren’t many people who find these things fascinating. I’m pedantic at the best of times but fascinating medical facts on a city tour should be correct, sometimes I hate myself....

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[Minxy]

You are correct, Hansen, a Norwegian doctor identified that it was caused by a bacterium . There is a museum in Bergen Norway which was where we were. I upset out tour guide who told everyone that he discovered the cure, which he didn’t, so I corrected her. We were a small group on a GB motorhome tour so the people forgave me even if the tourguide didn’t! Nick and I went to the museum, it was shut, it was a shabby little affair, clearly there aren’t many people who find these things fascinating. I’m pedantic at the best of times but fascinating medical facts on a city tour should be correct, sometimes I hate myself....

There's nothing wrong with correcting someone who is giving out info which is wrong so don't you go hating yourself, hopefully they'll give the right info next time. I watched a documentary about leprosy last year, it was about an island called Spinalonga which was a leper colony, very interesting.

Spinalonga

www.visitgreece.gr

 

[carolyn]

Oh yes and one of Victoria Hislop’s novels is set there as well. There was a leprosy sanatorium run by nuns in Essex until the 1980’s , the order of St Giles originally . By the end it just housed very elderly nuns and a few people from all over the world who’d been treated late on. This thread really has drifted!

 

[jumartoo]

Oh yes and one of Victoria Hislop’s novels is set there as well. There was a leprosy sanatorium run by nuns in Essex until the 1980’s , the order of St Giles originally . By the end it just housed very elderly nuns and a few people from all over the world who’d been treated late on. This thread really has drifted!

The Island. It's a good book, even if it's a novel.

 

[busby]

There's nothing wrong with correcting someone who is giving out info which is wrong so don't you go hating yourself, hopefully they'll give the right info next time. I watched a documentary about leprosy last year, it was about an island called Spinalonga which was a leper colony, very interesting.

Spinalonga

www.visitgreece.gr

Been on that island.Its on Crete just off Elounda,,BUSBY.

 

[gus-lopez]

Its not i "Need" to go on holiday
It is (in my case) "I want to take to take my lawful opportunity to go on holiday" (when or if it comes)

And that is the difference.

Yes & that is the problem.Those working throughout have been left high & dry by those who have been allowed to be on paid holidays for 12+ months when they should have been legally trapped in the home if in receipt of any type of assistance.

Some people forget that not everyone is retired.

Igf they had addressed the problem at the outset by ensuring those being paid to stay at home actually did it would have been better.
My daughter & partner wjo have worked throughout won't evn go out for fear of being lumped in with all those on the piss & jolly ups. Daughter hasn't had any time off since 2019.

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