French Government unveils plan to extend use of private radar cars following trial in Normandy

[G7UXG]

I would suggest that the vast majority of drivers, even attempting to comply with limits by taking their foot off on seeing the signs will still get caught simply by the momentum of their vehicles.

Isn't that what brakes are for?

 

[Emmit]

Whilst I understand your reasoning, and it is a perfect philosophy, how does that sit with that car, van, bike buried in your back bumper when you do it?
Its all very well in a perfect world but that's the problem.
I would also point out that signage isn't always visible to a point where brakes, however applied, would save you from a fine.
BTW, in this context, I passed my test in 1966 and I've never had anything other than a 'clean' licence.

 

[Tea Bag]

As usual motorists only thinking about themselves and not other road users

Hi.
Motorists...ARE...The other road users.....
Tea Bag

 

[tonyidle]

little three cylinder two stroke diesel

That would be quite something - worth buying one for the engine alone.

 

[Tea Bag]

worth buying one for the engine alone.

Hi.
Don't forget the..... SOUND track as well, from a 2 stroke diesel at revs....Coooooooooooooooooooooooooool.
Tea Bag

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[moulin 87]

That is because Foreign Blankets, are ALL enveloping, and take no mind of the individual. The vast majority of recent UK law, (the last 40+years) and the more "restrictive" of which are of EUSSR origins. UK Bureaucrat`s have joyfully jumped on that bandwagon, to enhance and create more "shiny bums on seats" and hence the more restrictive the UK has become, Few "home grown" regulations are as restrictive.

In my own field, we had some very sensible safety regulation for many years, which where "modified" under "EU rules" and became a logistical and Bureaucratic nightmare, I finished up doing far more "paperwork" and a lot less actual examinations. In the end it was the "paperwork" that figured to some extent in my decision to retire early

I do remember hearing UK politicians boasting in recent times about EU regulations are a minimum standard and how proud they are in imposing more stringent regulation!! Strange this all encompassing blanket seems to have large holes in it which cover the remainder of the EU....

Your comments above don't cover the restrictions on strikes, demonstrations, CCTV, Face recognition cameras, control of the press by a few individuals who are not resident in the UK, so as I say the UK seems to be a very controlled environment which the individuals seem to enjoy.. Of course the ' Gilets Jaune' have shown that some countries have the confidence to allow individuals to express themselves and to listen..Yes some idiots went to the extreme but the majority are your local individuals who you would see in your local supermarket..

 

[spitfire]

 

[2x2camper]

Hi.
Motorists...ARE...The other road users.....
Tea Bag

Motorist are one of a number of road users. Part of the problem is some think they are or should be the only ones.

 

[spitfire]

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[spitfire]

No sure why it isn’t showing u my edit . Just to clarify the second number should have a 4 So is 4283 . In my opinion not enough to feel ‘ruled ‘ by Europe . Many of them also improved workers rights . I find it strange given this number why people feel they are ruled by Europe and when asked which rules they don’t like are unable to name any !

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[filopastry]

I would suggest that the vast majority of drivers, even attempting to comply with limits by taking their foot off on seeing the signs will still get caught simply by the momentum of their vehicles.

My vehicle is fitted with brakes which when applied reduce the speed ... is this not a norm?

Ooops just seen same comment prior to mine, sorry for the duplication

 

[filopastry]

Whilst I understand your reasoning, and it is a perfect philosophy, how does that sit with that car, van, bike buried in your back bumper when you do it?

The vehicle following should maintain a sufficient distance to be able to brake before become "buried in your back bumper".

Not wanting to be picky here, but I brake to reduce my speed, not by slamming on, but by seeing what is in front of me and changing my speed and direction at a reasonable rate. If this causes problems for those behind I suspect the fault lies with them and not myself. That said, emergencies where one must apply the brake more vigorously do occur but still, the responsibility of the following vehicle maintaining sufficient distance nearly always rests with them.

 

[tonyidle]

Hi.
Don't forget the..... SOUND track as well, from a 2 stroke diesel at revs....Coooooooooooooooooooooooooool.
Tea Bag

That's what crossed my mind although I suspect they used to have 2T petrol and now have conventional 4T Diesel. They actually, in my limited experience, sound like a Thwaites dumper.

 

[Tea Bag]

Part of the problem is some think they are or should be the only ones.

Hi.
Not me..... Its..."My Motorway/road/lane/footpath cycle lane." All you lot are trespassing. Lets change tack,for "Motorist read Cyclists" (Now we can have a good spat).... As a motorist,you have to give PLENTY of room when overtaking a cyclist or be branded a bad driver...How come two Lycra louts can ride abreast on a narrow pavement and a person walking out the gate has to jump for their lives ? it would appear that ALL people who have a bottom facing the floor need to acknowledge that everybody else is at fault...... Come the revolution.....
Tea Bag

 

[filopastry]

That's what crossed my mind although I suspect they used to have 2T petrol and now have conventional 4T Diesel. They actually, in my limited experience, sound like a Thwaites dumper.

They have a 'orrible sound to me ... always sound as if the engine is trying to escape the bonnet, but then, when they have "ammended" the limiter probably not a surprise. Some of the young 'uns have even put go faster strips and enhanced exhausts on theirs

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[Tea Bag]

Thwaites dumper.

Hi
"Thwaits Ales?" = Thwaites dumper/Cough medicine....No one coughed after drinking two pints of Thwaites ale
Tea Bag

 

[gus-lopez]

Why would you drive to kill them?

I don't they choose to wander around on the phone, wearing head phones, oblivious & think nothing of just stepping out in to the road illegally. No crossing , centre refuge,etc; cannon fodder.
They've made it totally illegal here to cross anywhere other than prescribed places.

IMHO one of the biggest hazards on todays roads is people wearing headphones, particularly in urban areas where they wander round in complete oblivion to their surroundings.

Exactly & as above.

Some of the young 'uns have even put go faster strips and enhanced exhausts on theirs

many come here with all that from new + there are convertibles
Have you ever seen how they are made ?? Frightening. Used to be what was left of one that had burnt out in a local garage. My trailer is better built.

 

[PeteH]

Motorist are one of a number of road users. Part of the problem is some think they are or should be the only ones.

Well, Lets face it, They DO pay more that enough motoring related taxes, to more that pay for all the roads AND a healthy surplus to the exchequer.

IF, you are watching the road and surroundings (and perhaps paying slightly less attention to your speedometer?), you will be far more likely to observe upcoming hazard and reduce forward motion without recourse to braking. And I still like the "2 second rule", as regards the distance between vehicle in front. It is my personal observation that the vast majority of drivers WILL drive too close to the vehicle in front.

 

[2x2camper]

Well, Lets face it, They DO pay more that enough motoring related taxes, to more that pay for all the roads AND a healthy surplus to the exchequer.

IF, you are watching the road and surroundings (and perhaps paying slightly less attention to your speedometer?), you will be far more likely to observe upcoming hazard and reduce forward motion without recourse to braking. And I still like the "2 second rule", as regards the distance between vehicle in front. It is my personal observation that the vast majority of drivers WILL drive too close to the vehicle in front.

Well actually pedestrians also pay taxes and also road fund tax if they have a car.

 

[PeteH]

Well actually pedestrians also pay taxes and also road fund tax if they have a car.

And?, At that point they too are motorists.. As for taxes, the "motorist" pays those AS WELL.

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[moulin 87]

A little more info.

https://www.connexionfrance.com/Fre...Cj3RCiwqwP9q54u4c7y0tn9vHafnMVgxmcJXxVfs6xb5g

https://www.connexionfrance.com/Fre...pb-sK5c3TuTdUazcxMmKzJEOt_MjaUSco1D01agFS9fwQ

 

[Jaws]

Oh it is. Just don't drive on the limit all the time

Indeed it is good to know we have someone who is perfect in our midst.. one who never breaks any rules or laws and is totally in control of their lives

As it seems ok to tell member what to do now, I insist no one can drive a motorhome unless they carry a motorbike of 125cc or more on the back .. It is the sensible thing to do in case of a breakdown

 

[2x2camper]

Indeed it is good to know we have someone who is perfect in our midst.. one who never breaks any rules or laws and is totally in control of their lives

As it seems ok to tell member what to do now, I insist no one can drive a motorhome unless they carry a motorbike of 125cc or more on the back .. It is the sensible thing to do in case of a breakdown

Well I've never had a speeding ticket yet.

 

[tonyidle]

Well I've never had a speeding ticket yet.

In my younger motorcycling days I lost count ...........

 

[filopastry]

@moulin 87 The Connection is, in my opinion worse that all the red tops in the UK. Intended for non French speaking Brits in France I am, frequently gob smacked at their inflammatory reporting. We are, sadly, subscribing to a second year as I forgot to cancel the auto renewal, there will not be a third year.

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[moulin 87]

@moulin 87 The Connection is, in my opinion worse that all the red tops in the UK. Intended for non French speaking Brits in France I am, frequently gob smacked at their inflammatory reporting. We are, sadly, subscribing to a second year as I forgot to cancel the auto renewal, there will not be a third year.

I'm not a subscriber, I'm not sure I ever have been, but I receive an email each week with a few titbits attached, two of which I posted above. Not sure either of these two pieces are inflammatory!!

 

[gus-lopez]

How can you have "private radar" carsThey have a vested interest in catching people. If you are 'tendering' for the contract then you are going to be wanting to make a profit.If it then involves shareholders it gets even worse.
Same as outsourced parking & other scams the UK does. Anyone who has any type of interest will attempt to generate income even if they do not realise they are doing it.

 

[moulin 87]

How can you have "private radar" carsThey have a vested interest in catching people. If you are 'tendering' for the contract then you are going to be wanting to make a profit.If it then involves shareholders it gets even worse.
Same as outsourced parking & other scams the UK does. Anyone who has any type of interest will attempt to generate income even if they do not realise they are doing it.

I understand they are tendering to provide a service where for 6 hours per day minimum an employee drives around in an unmarked car collecting data, perhaps on pre-determined routes? What happens to the data is not their concern.

 

[bilM]

Well I've never had a speeding ticket yet.

You can't get out much

 

[2x2camper]

You can't get out much

Still got a few years left to catch up

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