France.......but where are the French?????

[jockaneezer]

Having decided not to go abroad this year due to that which cannot be named and the situation regarding our dog's passport/rabies situation, sitting under a brolley, trying to avoid the huge raindrops outside a coffee shop in town, we got talking about why we go abroad. The weather, fittingly, was our first reason, but then we got thinking about the "differences". These, generally come in two forms, the good and the bad. Good ones are everywhere, the scenery, being given a liqueur at the end of a meal when you didn't expect it, not paying your bar tab till you leave and the kindness of strangers. Bad ones can vary depending on circumstances too, finding you've run out of an item for lunch, only to find the shops are shut for the next 3 hours or trying every plastic card in your wallet to pay for fuel when you're running on fumes with a ferry to catch. Maybe France is just too different for some folks ?
Getting back to the deserted villages though, nearly every one has that bloody great big Pharmacie sign that displays the temp/time, maybe everyone is indoors being poorly ?

 

[Chockswahay]

A few years ago whilst sat outside a church in Portugal I got talking to a little old Dutch lady. We explained our travels all over Europe and she said "Young man, France has everything! you have no need to go elsewhere".

I was a little put out at first........ then she mentioned that France offers Seaside, Mountains, Plains, Forests, Hot, Cold, Sun, Snow, Culture, Good food, Wine.............

Then I realised she was right. In France you can ski,surf, roast in the sun or chill in the snow, climb mountains, walk through forests, eat well, drink well, go rural or go city....... it's all there!

We love France

 

[Lot lover]

I had read the various comments bothfor and against France and the French without any serious thoughts of posting until I read what imho was a tasteless "joke" from busby.

Thinking that I was allowed an opinion, I am still a British subject sadly reliant on GBP for our pensions, I posted it. chaser, others may criticise France from afar but I may not criticise Britain? Hmm.

 

[chaser]

I had read the various comments bothfor and against France and the French without any serious thoughts of posting until I read what imho was a tasteless "joke" from busby.

Thinking that I was allowed an opinion, I am still a British subject sadly reliant on GBP for our pensions, I posted it. chaser, others may criticise France from afar but I may not criticise Britain? Hmm.

Think you will find I have praised France all through the thread that doesn't mean I have to run down the UK.

 

[Fenman]

A few years ago whilst sat outside a church in Portugal I got talking to a little old Dutch lady. We explained our travels all over Europe and she said "Young man, France has everything! you have no need to go elsewhere".

I was a little put out at first........ then she mentioned that France offers Seaside, Mountains, Plains, Forests, Hot, Cold, Sun, Snow, Culture, Good food, Wine.............

Then I realised she was right. In France you can ski,surf, roast in the sun or chill in the snow, climb mountains, walk through forests, eat well, drink well, go rural or go city....... it's all there!

We love France

That's why a huge proportion of the French have never set foot outside the country. They don't need to.

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[Allanm]

what you said is quite right and but there are still people in the uk who love this country and trying to put it right , not running off to another country then criticising from afar.
that said i have nothing against france as i have said in numerous posts on this thread.

I don’t think anyone is running away, people move away for whatever their reasons are and sometimes when they give these reasons they are unjustly criticised.

 

[Pete5996]

The occasional comment on the state of the nation you might get from Brits living elsewhere is unquestionably being repeated many, many times over within the UK by those who love their country and are utterly aghast at what the hell has happened over the past three years.

Those at home are being lambasted by Leavers as snowflakes, Remoaners, chicken-livered, traitorous enemies of the country and have been ostracised and bullied by friends and family who have been caught up in the near-hysteria of the Leave faction.

Attempts to silence or belittle comment from those who have earned their right to make a critical observation, by reason of being born British and contributing to the country over many years, wherever they now choose to live, is just another example of the mind-set of those who seem bent on putting The UK over the edge.

Forgive us for having the temerity to express our concerns about the very uncertain future facing everyone, living in the UK or elsewhere....

 

[nicholsong]

A few years ago whilst sat outside a church in Portugal I got talking to a little old Dutch lady. We explained our travels all over Europe and she said "Young man, France has everything! you have no need to go elsewhere".

I was a little put out at first........ then she mentioned that France offers Seaside, Mountains, Plains, Forests, Hot, Cold, Sun, Snow, Culture, Good food, Wine.............

Then I realised she was right. In France you can ski,surf, roast in the sun or chill in the snow, climb mountains, walk through forests, eat well, drink well, go rural or go city....... it's all there!

We love France

Did you ask the Dutch Lady why she was sitting in Portugal?

 

[nicholsong]

I don’t think anyone is running away, people move away for whatever their reasons are and sometimes when they give these reasons they are unjustly criticised.

For example, I moved to Poland to be with my Lady and she is tied here, as particularly her 98 year-old Mother is here, plus other family.

I would feel entitled to comment on happenings in the UK, including politics and economics, as apart from anything else, all my income originates there and all my income is taxed there. Also I am British and an English lawyer, so I am qualified to comment on English Law, which might affect my circumstances, but not in any other jurisdiction to comment on their laws.

I would respect a Frenchman living in UK excercising the same rights about happenings in France.

Geoff

 

[chaser]

i dont know if these last few posts are directed solely at me , if they are , i have nothing against anyone living in france, in fact julie lived and taught there, in fact we both love to be in france and the thread was mostly in praise of france untill someone started to change it into a uk knocking thread , all i was doing was replying in kind.

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[Pete5996]

i dont know if these last few posts are directed solely at me , if they are , i have nothing against anyone living in france, in fact julie lived and taught there, in fact we both love to be in france and the thread was mostly in praise of france untill someone started to change it into a uk knocking thread , all i was doing was replying in kind.

No, that's evident from your posts - I think it may just have been the phrase 'not running off to another country then criticising from afar' might just have touched nerves....

 

[busby]

That's why a huge proportion of the French have never set foot outside the country. They don't need to.

Portugal is full of them..BUSBY.

 

[Chris]

A lot of the whinghy Remainer brigade live abroad don’t they?

I wonder why that is?

So we have morally superior remainers at home and now abroad.

I think I must have voted the wrong way.

Either that or I am morally corrupt

 

[2657]

I think I must have voted the wrong way.

You did

Either that or I am morally corrupt

Self realisation

"
Self-realization is a term used in Eastern religions, yoga philosophy, psychological theories and other spiritual schools of thought. It denotes a state in which an individual knows who they truly are and is fulfilled in that understanding."

 

[Allanm]

i dont know if these last few posts are directed solely at me , if they are , i have nothing against anyone living in france, in fact julie lived and taught there, in fact we both love to be in france and the thread was mostly in praise of france untill someone started to change it into a uk knocking thread , all i was doing was replying in kind.

Mine wasn’t and I’m sorry if you thought it was.
I was really referring to a few who seem to take great delight in negatively commenting on some people’s choices that appear to be different to their own.
And not just aimed at where people choose to live.

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[busby]

If you Brits had suffered at the hands of the Nazis or other German invaders in the same way as the French you may not be quite so quick with the tasteless comments.

No one forces you to visit France,if you don't like it then stay aboard your pathetic little sinking ship.

Calm down dear,,you will have a coronary..It's called humour but missing from some.BUSBY.

 

[Chris]

You did


Self realisation

"
Self-realization is a term used in Eastern religions, yoga philosophy, psychological theories and other spiritual schools of thought. It denotes a state in which an individual knows who they truly are and is fulfilled in that understanding."

Bollox in plain English then?

 

[busby]

I had read the various comments bothfor and against France and the French without any serious thoughts of posting until I read what imho was a tasteless "joke" from busby.

Thinking that I was allowed an opinion, I am still a British subject sadly reliant on GBP for our pensions, I posted it. chaser, others may criticise France from afar but I may not criticise Britain? Hmm.

Lighten up Lot Lover,,your sounding like a snowflake..Not meant with any nastiness..What has happened now days to old fashioneď banter.BUSBY.??

 

[GAVLAD]

Yes Larby, on the Municipal, nice site and handy for the town.

We stayed here last year and what a find!
Lovely site, nice pool, scenic walk into town.
La Flèche is similar to our Sandhurst for the military and whilst we were in town, the recruits had all met for a coffee or beer in the cafe bar in the square whilst we were there. Everyone was really friendly and polite.

 

[Lot lover]

busby - sadly I cannot know what you meant, I only know what you wrote.

Your sense of humour appears to be of the Jo Brand variety, as in unfunny but each to his own as they say.

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[Chockswahay]

Crikey! this thread has become more about defending or attacking personal views and less about the core subject

 

[Tincataylor]

Many thanks for all the replies and views expressed in relation to our original post. For what it's worth we have thoroughly enjoyed our first French tour and we look forward to exploring other parts of the country on future trips. Thread's tend to meander off the subject for reasons best known to those who do so, but the majority of you have made for interesting reading. We will board the ferry back to Plymouth tomorrow with the same mixed emotions we always have. We love to travel, but we also love our home in Sunny Deb'n so I guess we have the best of both worlds.

We have the Upton Blues Festival and the Royal Welsh Show to look forward to next so if any of you pass a van with the TINCA number plate then please stop and say hello

The Tincas

 

[Hollyberry]

Many thanks for all the replies and views expressed in relation to our original post. For what it's worth we have thoroughly enjoyed our first French tour and we look forward to exploring other parts of the country on future trips. Thread's tend to meander off the subject for reasons best known to those who do so, but the majority of you have made for interesting reading. We will board the ferry back to Plymouth tomorrow with the same mixed emotions we always have. We love to travel, but we also love our home in Sunny Deb'n so I guess we have the best of both worlds.

We have the Upton Blues Festival and the Royal Welsh Show to look forward to next so if any of you pass a van with the TINCA number plate then please stop and say hello

The Tincas

Safe journey home and for the first time in a while there are blue skies and sunshine over Devon.

 

[Rob Hammond]

A lot of the whinghy Remainer brigade live abroad don’t they?

I wonder why that is?

So we have morally superior remainers at home and now abroad.

I think I must have voted the wrong way.

Either that or I am morally corrupt

 

[Jim]

Where does one start?
UK govt has lost control of Parliament
NHS seems to need billions of pounds, thousands of doctors and nurses
Roads are hopelessly overcrowded, just potholes joined together
Population more divided than ever,rich vs poor, Scotland refuses to accept democratic vote of U.K.over Brexit
Too many parasites taking from too few taxpayers
Brexit "negotiations" have made UK a laughing stock everywhere except U.K.
Appearing to believe that a trade deal with Trump will be good for U.K.
Concreting the countryside to build more and more shoeboxes and wondering why flooding prevalent
But there may be more

The forums are better in the UK though don't you think.

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[busby]

The forums are better in the UK though don't you think.

Shows you how bored those that live in France are to go on a UK forum, I better zip it,,Snowflakes about ???.BUSBY.

 

[Camping Gaza]

France and the French are not worth a visit.

It's a miserable country full of boring people spending all their time with friends and family and not out shopping or spending the weekends at B and Q buying little bedding plants, or watching endless reality television or football. They are so miserable and rude they have to spend time sitting outside in the sun hogging the tables drinking wine beer and eating, and to be totally obnoxious actually talking to strangers. (they even have the audacity to talk to people they have never met in public.) The bloody cheek of it.

Their houses and gardens make you want to weep because they are so anal about making things look nice, because of their civic pride and want it to be nice for visitors and neighbours. They keep their children under control in public, and my God, actually say "good day, evening, night, to TOTAL strangers. (Do you know they will even HELP total strangers if they get into trouble, on Aires, or stuck in the sand in your motorhome near the beach, without permission or prompting, The damn insolence of it!)

For the love of God, What's WRONG with these people.... ???

My advice to you good upstanding British folk is simple. For your own sanity AVOID FRANCE. (you have been warned)

 

[Just smiffy]

France and the French are not worth a visit. It's a miserable country full of boring people spending all their time with friends and family and not out shopping or spending the weekends at B and Q buying little bedding plants, or watching endless reality television or football. They are so miserable and rude they have to spend time sitting outside in the sun hogging the tables drinking wine beer and eating, and to be totally obnoxious actually talking to strangers. (they even have the audacity to talk to people they have never met in public. The bloody cheek of it.

Their houses and gardens make you want to weep because they are so anal about making things look nice, because of their pride and want it to be nice for visitors and neighbours. They keep their children under control in public, and my God, actually say "good day, evening, night, to TOTAL strangers. (Do you know they will even HELP total strangers if they get into trouble, on Aires, or stuck in the sand in your motorhome near the beach without permission, The damn insolence of it!)

For the love of God, What's WRONG with these people.... ???

My advice to you good upstanding British folk is simple. For your own sanity AVOID FRANCE. (you have been warned)

I keep on saying it and I’ll say that’s nearly what I say every time why do people go there...?

 

[busby]

I keep on saying it and I’ll say that’s nearly what I say every time why do people go there...?

I can't afford it.??BUSBY.

 

[Jim]

France and the French are not worth a visit.

It's a miserable country full of boring people spending all their time with friends and family and not out shopping or spending the weekends at B and Q buying little bedding plants, or watching endless reality television or football. They are so miserable and rude they have to spend time sitting outside in the sun hogging the tables drinking wine beer and eating, and to be totally obnoxious actually talking to strangers. (they even have the audacity to talk to people they have never met in public.) The bloody cheek of it.

Their houses and gardens make you want to weep because they are so anal about making things look nice, because of their civic pride and want it to be nice for visitors and neighbours. They keep their children under control in public, and my God, actually say "good day, evening, night, to TOTAL strangers. (Do you know they will even HELP total strangers if they get into trouble, on Aires, or stuck in the sand in your motorhome near the beach, without permission or prompting, The damn insolence of it!)

For the love of God, What's WRONG with these people.... ???

My advice to you good upstanding British folk is simple. For your own sanity AVOID FRANCE. (you have been warned)

Is all that stuff alien to you then? You could have been describing anywhere I've lived in the UK for the past 30 years.

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