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[monzer]

Saw this earlier this morning in central Ukraine. It never registered above 0 feet of altitude but was obviously moving around at a reasonable speed. Disappeared after a minute or two. No idea what it was. 8am on the playback feature if anyone wants a look.

 

[brocola]

My guess is someone forgot to turn the transponder off on a heli or drone with it going only 110ish knots

The way I understand it, ADS-B uses a transmitter in an aircraft which transmits data from the aircraft’s own navigation system.

I know they can be turned on/off but don’t know whether you can choose which data to transmit. I’m guessing in this case perhaps the altitude was being blocked (hence reported as zero) but the heading/route was getting sent out.

I’m dreaming it was a Ukrainian Bayraktar TB2 going off hunting for Russian armour

Bayraktar TB2 - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

 

[Larrynwin]

Interesting Black Hawk at the moment

 

[DuxDeluxe]

Refreshingly quiet over here at the moment; not even the inevitable (spit) Ryanscare flight

 

[Larrynwin]

Just heard this one overhead on the way home

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[brocola]

FORTE12 looks like it’s just taken off from Sicily.

Interestingly there seems to have been a reduction in visible aircraft in the last 24 hours. I’m assuming they’re still there, but for some reason they’ve decided to turn transponders off. Even seems to be fewer tankers about.

My (amateur) guess is someone has decided this is entering a more covert phase rather than the overt “we want you to know we’re watching you” that’s been going on for the last month.

 

[brocola]

Think this is Blinken on his way round the Baltic states after visits to Poland and Moldava

 

[Realist]

I was watching a uk Typhoon this morning that transmitted an emergency. I followed it from Isreal to Cypress area and half way it was joined by another Typhoon that just popped up out of nowhere.

Then both just disappeared off my screen.

 

[brocola]

US something fishing in the eastern Med off Egypt.

300ish knots @10,000 ft. P8 Poseidon?

 

[monzer]

I was watching a uk Typhoon this morning that transmitted an emergency. I followed it from Isreal to Cypress area and half way it was joined by another Typhoon that just popped up out of nowhere.

Then both just disappeared off my screen.View attachment 592508

I saw that. It was not too long ago huh? I've seen quite a few jets squawk the 7700 code which is a bit worrying.

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[monzer]

US something fishing in the eastern Med off Egypt.

300ish knots @10,000 ft. P8 Poseidon?

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I was reading a bit yesterday about how anti submarine warfare has been ramped up again. The Russian and Chinese fleets are a lot quieter now and have been constantly shadowing our new carrier. In turn we know they are there so use it as training to go find them.

Seems these Poseidons are our best weapon in ASW.

 

[brocola]

There are reports USS Harry Truman has moved into the Adriatic and France’s Charles de Gaulle is also in that area, so I can imagine they’re getting very twitchy about making sure they know where every sub and surface threat is headed

 

[Badknee]

Are the Russians up in force having a looksee or do they not show ID?

 

[brocola]

Are the Russians up in force having a looksee or do they not show ID?

Not really seen any apart from VIP transport, except one Russian Antonov An-24KPA that seemed to be nosing around just off Cyprus Friday night.

 

[Jenben]

Are the Russians up in force having a looksee or do they not show ID?

Over on Twitter there is an auto update thread of where Russian oligarch jets are flying.

He seems to be trying to create something similar for Russian oligarch yachts now?

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[brocola]

Seems these Poseidons are our best weapon in ASW

I keep seeing reports that they’re hoping to eventually turn them into multi-mission capable “bomb trucks” or “missile boats” - bombs, drones, missiles, mines and decoys

 

[brocola]

He seems to be trying to create something similar for Russian oligarch yachts now?

Yes the guy that got into a row posting updates on Elon Musks private jet

Here’s his yacht tracker

https://mobile.twitter.com/RussiaYachts

 

[PhilandMena]

There are reports USS Harry Truman has moved into the Adriatic and France’s Charles de Gaulle is also in that area, so I can imagine they’re getting very twitchy about making sure they know where every sub and surface threat is headed

Although subs can communicate whilst underwater on longwave and through underwater comms cables between certain countries, its my understanding they will not send signals above water and even more so when on operational duty. To this end I suspect the surface ships will only know through very sophisticated unbreakable coded signals from satellites , the area that friendly subs are operating in. They don't call it the secret service for nothing. You can safety bet , i believe that we have all 4 Astute subs in the northern hemisphere on active patrols.

 

[Silver-Fox]

Over on Twitter there is an auto update thread of where Russian oligarch jets are flying.

He seems to be trying to create something similar for Russian oligarch yachts now?

Why haven’t the West closed down their airspace for any Russian aircraft.

You could say it’s for security reasons.

 

[Jenben]

Why haven’t the West closed down their airspace for any Russian aircraft.

You could say it’s for security reasons.

I think from replies to this question on his Twitter post a number of the jets are registered in the US?

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[Realist]

I saw that. It was not too long ago huh? I've seen quite a few jets squawk the 7700 code which is a bit worrying.

Yes specially one of our jets.

For those members here that have no access to Flightradar24 this is what 7700 is all about:

What is the significance of “Squawking 7700”?​

Declaring an emergency means the crew determines they have an “urgency” or “distress” situation. “Urgency” means the crew is concerned about the safety of the flight and needs timely (but not necessarily immediate) assistance. A “distress” condition means that the flight is in serious and/or imminent danger and requires immediate assistance.

The radio call “Pan-Pan” declares an urgent situation: “Pan-Pan, Pan-Pan, Transglobal 124 requests lower altitude due to cracked windshield.”
“Mayday,” declares a distress situation: Mayday, Mayday, Mayday, Transglobal 142, engine fire, returning to Metropolis.”

In the United States it’s more common for pilots to use the term “Declaring an emergency” even though Pan-Pan and Mayday are the accepted international phrases.

If a crew resets their transponder to the emergency code of 7700 (squawking 7700), all air traffic control facilities in the area are immediately alerted that the aircraft has an emergency situation. It’s up to the crew to let ATC know what the exact situation is. It may be an aircraft problem, medical issue, or something else.

In some cases, a crew may not elect to change their transponder to 7700 (it’s not required). If I’m talking to Chicago Approach and have a problem, I’ll tell them the problem, declare an emergency over the radio and get vectors to land immediately. In an international environment where language and communication may be challenging, squawking 7700 makes it very clear to ATC that the crew needs priority and assistance.

 

[Silver-Fox]

I think from replies to this question on his Twitter post a number of the jets are registered in the US?

I’m talking about anything in or out of Russia.
Or any registered jet anywhere in the world.

 

[Badknee]

Not really seen any apart from VIP transport, except one Russian Antonov An-24KPA that seemed to be nosing around just off Cyprus Friday night.

I wondered more about military over Ukraine watching what Ukrainian armed forces are doing. There was a geezer on telly this morning (Sophie Rottweiler) saying the Ukrainians were doing a good job holding the large russian column up.

 

[brocola]

I don’t think the Russians would intentionally let any of their surveillance assets over Ukraine be visible via FR24 etc. Plus I suspect they’re still keeping the bigger targets (AWACS etc) safe over Belarus given the number of Stingers & other SAMs that still seem to be active in Ukraine.

The big column is interesting. The Ukrainian attacks seem to have been hit & run by special forces rather than air power.

Some reports say the Ukrainians intentionally disabled flood pumps so the big plain north of Kyiv turned into a mud bath. But other say the Russians have been intentionally stopping just at the edge of their (Russian) artillery range and building up forces, so they can do a “Grozny” and raise Kyiv to the ground once they’ve got an overwhelming force amassed.

 

[Figaro]

He (mod chief of staff guy on tv today) also said the squaddies from that stuck convoy north of kyiv were camped out in the forests for fear of being attacked in their vehicles.
Let's hope some snippers are picking them off or taking pow's

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[gus-lopez]

re a lot quieter now and have been constantly shadowing our new carrier.

& why I said before random depth charging as you wander along to keep them on there toes.

There are reports USS Harry Truman has moved into the Adriatic and France’s Charles de Gaulle is also in that area, so I can imagine they’re getting very twitchy about making sure they know where every sub and surface threat is headed

Shorter distance to the target area, Russians in syria can't easily see what is going on, don't have to fire missiles over Turkey ?

 

[brocola]

Let's hope some snippers are picking them off or taking pow's

We can live in hope. I keep seeing photos on twitter of Ukrainians with new deliveries of night vision goggles and thermal sights.

 

[monzer]

& why I said before random depth charging as you wander along to keep them on there toes.

That would be an awful lot of charges to keep in the munitions store.

Plus I guess you can't just blow up another nations submarine and say 'shouldn't have been following us'.

They'll be following us and we'll be following them. Think we just have to live with it.

 

[brocola]

Shorter distance to the target area, Russians in syria can't easily see what is going on, don't have to fire missiles over Turkey ?

Yup I think you’re right. I think I got my sea’s mixed up and meant Aegean. Definitely closer, less chance of Turkey getting the hump - even though a NATO country, a bit simpler to only have to worry about Greece, Bulgaria and Romania for overflights.

 

[icantremember]

I wondered more about military over Ukraine watching what Ukrainian armed forces are doing. There was a geezer on telly this morning (Sophie Rottweiler) saying the Ukrainians were doing a good job holding the large russian column up.

A couple of these would soon sort that column ...

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