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monzer said:
For what it's worth I don't think we can shrug off a no fly zone for too much longer. Putin is getting too strong a grip in there at the moment.
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The no fly zone is a tough one. Every time it’s been used before, there’s been complete air supremacy beforehand and as part of implementing the no-fly, every surface to air missile platform (E.g Iraqi) has either been “requested” to be turned off, or swatted by SEAD strikes as soon as it’s turned on.

Not sure the Russians are going to be up for that, which means it would have to be a no fly zone by force, which is messy and basically declaring war. The latest SAM systems (SA300/SA400) have a range of well over 100miles, which means SAMs based in Belarus or Russia could target aircraft over Ukraine, which would either trigger the NATO flights trying to swat out the SAM launchers in their territory, or run away defeating the purpose of the no fly 😕
 
brocola said:
No idea what this one is. At 550ish knots, way too fast for a Global Hawk and I think a P8.

Update: def Russian Federation - Antonov AN-24KPA. Think it’s a surveillance aircraft.

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Interesting, speed is up and down like a yo-yo.
 

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The Russians apparently have a fairly big naval base in Tartus, Syria.

So my guess is a US plane looking for Russian subs and Russian plane searching for US/UK subs.

I’m starting to get flashbacks to the 1980s… :eek:
 
brocola said:
The no fly zone is a tough one. Every time it’s been used before, there’s been complete air supremacy beforehand and as part of implementing the no-fly, every surface to air missile platform (E.g Iraqi) has either been “requested” to be turned off, or swatted by SEAD strikes as soon as it’s turned on.

Not sure the Russians are going to be up for that, which means it would have to be a no fly zone by force, which is messy and basically declaring war. The latest SAM systems (SA300/SA400) have a range of well over 100miles, which means SAMs based in Belarus or Russia could target aircraft over Ukraine, which would either trigger the NATO flights trying to swat out the SAM launchers in their territory, or run away defeating the purpose of the no fly 😕
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Yeah it's definitely a tricky one but I think the Russians are just going to escalate and make it impossible for us not to react. They've already been firing rounds in to a nuclear power station.

Caught an ex-Kremlin guy on the news earlier saying Putin talks about hitting the nuclear button but no way would his generals obey him on that order.

It's a gamble right enough but we can't just keep seizing sports cars and yachts. I really don't know what will happen in the next few weeks/months.

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brocola said:
So my guess is a US plane looking for Russian subs and Russian plane searching for US/UK subs.
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I suppose the other possibility is the Antonov is taking a peek at RAF Akrotiri. Haven’t found any info yet about the capabilities of an Antonov An-24KPA.

The French carrier Charles de Gaulle carrying a Rafale strike group and other toys is also in that region - just left Limassol after being retasked to support NATO operations.
 
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brocola said:
And the weirdest thing is that it took a motorhome forum to get me into watching planes on FR24. What’s that about? 🤣
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It's called Diversity and Inclusivity in modern yuckspeak! :ROFLMAO:

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NATO AWACS just finished topping up from US K35R tanker over Poland? Altitude within 1000ft of each other.

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Looks like Voyager and Typhoons might be back from their daily Poland excursion? Typhoon doesnt show any previous route, just popped up, so possibly invisible all the way out & back. The little circuit at the start of the Voyager’s track makes me think it was hanging around waiting for someone.

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FORTE10 on its way home after night shift, meanwhile RAF P8 out of Sicily looks like it’s today’s eastern med subhunter

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brocola said:
I’m praying Mr Belarus has realised he’s in over his head and is working out how to extract Vlad’s hand from his backside...
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Do you think he’s got the intelligence to work it out.

Or just thinks big brother will look after him.

This is why a little prod may well cement his position one way or the other.
The Israelis have a way of getting in and out without detection.
They seem quite focussed as well.
 
Silver-Fox said:
Do you think he’s got the intelligence to work it out.

Or just thinks big brother will look after him.

This is why a little prod may well cement his position one way or the other.
The Israelis have a way of getting in and out without detection.
They seem quite focussed as well.
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Maybe not intelligence but politicians (dictators?) seem to have an enlightened sense of self interest.

Israeli modus operandi seems to be “hit hard and make sure they don’t get back up again”. Take Krav Maga for example…
 
brocola said:
Maybe not intelligence but politicians (dictators?) seem to have an enlightened sense of self interest.

Israeli modus operandi seems to be “hit hard and make sure they don’t get back up again”. Take Krav Maga for example…
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Agree with you regarding politicians.

Israelis do have a certain way regarding these things.
 
US EP-3 Orion and Bombardier Challenger keeping an eye on the Moldovan border and Black Sea off Odessa this morning. I’m guessing the K35R tanker is supporting fighter cover.

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brocola said:
The latest SAM systems (SA300/SA400) have a range of well over 100miles, which means SAMs based in Belarus or Russia could target aircraft over Ukraine,
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Small kamikaze drones ? small kaimkaze drones + miniture day crockett war heads to ensure any who survive die later?
brocola said:
The Russians apparently have a fairly big naval base in Tartus, Syria.

So my guess is a US plane looking for Russian subs and Russian plane searching for US/UK subs.

I’m starting to get flashbacks to the 1980s… :eek:
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One thing I can never understand , even when they do exercises is why not randomly depth charge as you go along? A completely random pattern which would prevent any subs watching getting to close or seeing how close they can get? Just an as & when the capatain feels like & for as long as he wants.

Same with sub spotting from 20 or 30,000 feet . If you assess one is there then a large bomb dropped a mile or so away just to let them know that you know?

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PhilandMena said:
A pond to a pinch of dog shit the Yanks have crossed into Ukraine airspace with at least one F35. What an opportunity to test out its sensors and stealth capability in real war conditions and perhaps collect a bit of data too.
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who wouldn't?
 
PhilandMena said:
What an opportunity to test out its sensors and stealth capability in real war conditions and perhaps collect a bit of data too.
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I was involved with Aerospatiale during the Falklands war. The publicity generated an overwhelming and worldwide demand for the Exocet.
 
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PhilandMena said:
A pond to a pinch of dog shit the Yanks have crossed into Ukraine airspace with at least one F35. What an opportunity to test out its sensors and stealth capability in real war conditions and perhaps collect a bit of data too.
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We can but hope.

Also hope they put it to good use.
 

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