Fined after taking Chausson for hab check & service

[TonyEmm]

I haven't read all the comments but I'm astonished that many seem to accept this massive loss of our freedoms for a mild disease that kills old people like me....... . This SARS-Cov-2 virus is not doing any real harm to the vast majority of our society.........

. Why do people comply with this devastation of our Human Rights?

Mild disease? What planet are you on? Over 1200 dying every day in the U.K. alone and not all geriatric farts like me..... Local news a couple of days ago, a 25yr old newly qualified teacher just died from Covid.... Try telling her family about your human rights!

This is completely off topic from the original post so I shall comment no further.

 

[The Wino]

Quite right. My motorhome has a fridge/freezer which makes it the most appropriate vehicle for the weekly shop. It also has a sink and hot running water which makes it the most covid-safe. I have also used it for work on site as it provides me with a place to have lunch, use the WC and wash my hands during the day without using shared facilities. The truth is the police are picking on vehicles such as sports cars and RV's, which they think look like leisure trips, implying that driving an RV or a sports car is reasonable grounds for suspecting an offence is being committed. But is it, or are they just being discriminatory? What do you think?

I think it's reasonable as long as it doesn't end up being stopped 2 or 3 times on a relatively short journey. I think to really know if its reasonable you would need to know what proportion of the ones stopped are breaking the rules if it's 80% I'd say keep going. If 98%have a perfectly valid reason they are wasting their time and inconveniencing people for no reason. It could be that people getting stopped when using their RV/sports car for a valid reason rather than blaming the police for stopping them ought to be blaming the people who are going out in them without a good reason.

 

[sluhgulper]

This was a habitation service not an MOT. 70 mile journey to dealer! I’m sure 10 tenmen is a reasonable guy but really. Why do many in out nation feel that we don’t have to comply with the Covid lockdown rules and look for nebulous ways of failing to comply. Essential travel is in the description. Essential! As to the comment the Police should catching criminals. Grow up Frogijock.

 

[jacksmith]

I think it might be nice if you kept your rather naive comments to yourself. This so called mild disease put my previously fit 60 year old friend in ITU for 3 months. He is miraculously home but has had to have a stair lift put in and who knows how well he will ever be. My 25 year old god daughter who had it in November and was a keen runner only seemed to have it mildly but is still breathless now.

Have you not been reading the news or are you a conspiracy theorist, long Covid is beginning to look like a serious problem for the nations health. We don’t know much about it yet and the poor NHS certainly doesn’t have any resourses to deal with it.

I wanted to use a different word to naive in the first line but I didn’t want Jim to send me to Coventry. It’s early in the morning and I am a bit angry.

It is indeed a health crisis of historic proportions. However just to leave you with this thought Carolyn - my father and my grandfather were both injured in world wars where they lost many dear friends and relatives - people who gave their lives for our freedom because they believed freedom for their descendants was more important than life itself. We all have a duty to ensure that as we give up these freedoms we do not do so lightly or without question and debate.

 

[Clive Beeza]

Copied from the Chausson forum.

Be very aware, I just collected my 640 from Lowdhams Newark where I took it for habitation check and service yesterday. On the way home to Northampton I was stopped by the Police and explained the reason for my journey. my wife and I were immediately issued with a two hundred pound fine each as the Police said that this was not an essential journey even though I explained that I would lose my warrenty if the hat check was not carried out. It has turned out to be a very expensive service.

Surely an MOT is a safety issue check ,so should be allowed.

Only if you are a full timer,
otherwise M home's should be laid up,
as it is non essential,
HOWEVER much we want to get out in them,
we have been asked umpteen times, only to go on ESSENTIAL journeys
but too many would not volunteer to comply with this necessary restriction,
hence the need to strengthen enforcement with fines,
WE are our own worst enemy simply for not exercising common sense,
by TOGETHER trying to beat this horrible situation
STAY SAFE STAY HOME
Is the message

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[slowdriver]

The manufacturer in this case Chausson should have made a point of telling their dealers to delay without penalty habitation services until this pandemic is over. Bailey told their dealers that a 6 month extension was granted on hab checks adding a nice rip off clause that the next hab service would have to be on the anniversary of the original date.

I have some sympathy with the original poster as Lowdhams have gained from encouraging the poster to travel to their site when actually they should be closed.

Interestingly had the poster been travelling 25 miles to his nearest Class 4 Centre for a pre booked MOT that would have been perfectly legal.

Unless the Police are prepared to set up road block checkpoints, fining the odd individual seems wrong to me. The traffic in South London at the moment is very little different to normal during daytime hours.

 

[Lenny HB]

Yes. Why should we be handcuffed to having to have Hab services to keep our warranties

I'm not, had 3 new vans never had a hab check never affected warranty but I do have the damp check.

 

[jacksmith]

Damn, this has got me worried. Mine is booked in for a service and MOT 1st week of March.

It has to be done as the MOT runs out on the day it is in for service and more importantly 2 weeks later, we are moving house and have a 120 mile drive, which I don't want to do without an MOT! :-(

House moves are allowed i believe, so you would need a valid mot and insurance on all of your vehicles and they would all have to be roadworthy. Take proof of the house move date with you when you go for the MOT.

 

[TDub49]

House moves are allowed i believe, so you would need a valid mot and insurance on all of your vehicles and they would all have to be roadworthy. Take proof of the house move date with you when you go for the MOT.

MOTs are allowed.

 

[Yorick]

If you saw your neighbour taking his jetski for a service or whatever, you'd be up in arms.
But in the eyes of the law, your camper is no more important than his jetski.

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[David BW]

The rules on MOT are clear. MOTs aren't being extended and test centres are open. driving your vehicle to the a local test centre is clearly allowed. A journey of 75 miles to get an MOT is not necessary, unless you live in a very remote area.
Habitation checks are completely different.

 

[Ade S]

The habitation check is an insurance requirement usually so a legal obligation, make a complaint / appeal not try to avoid unnecessary paperwork. I would fight this all the way. As a retired police officer I can understand that weekly they are given instructions without training or guidance by people who don’t understand the whole picture themselves

good luck and stay safe

 

[TonyEmm]

The habitation check is an insurance requirement usually so a legal obligation, make a complaint / appeal not try to avoid unnecessary paperwork. I would fight this all the way. As a retired police officer I can understand that weekly they are given instructions without training or guidance by people who don’t understand the whole picture themselves

good luck and stay safe

Since when are hab checks a legal obligation? I’m insured with CaravanGuard and they’ve made no such stipulation..... The only hab check I’ve had done, on 3 Motorhomes, is when it was provided by the selling dealer.

 

[TonyEmm]

Copied from the Chausson forum.

Be very aware, I just collected my 640 from Lowdhams Newark where I took it for habitation check and service yesterday. On the way home to Northampton I was stopped by the Police and explained the reason for my journey. my wife and I were immediately issued with a two hundred pound fine each as the Police said that this was not an essential journey even though I explained that I would lose my warrenty if the hat check was not carried out. It has turned out to be a very expensive service.

Can you provide a link to the original posting please? 1. I can’t find it anywhere on the Chausson Forum, 2. Lowdhams aren’t in Newark! FAKE NEWS??

 

[Yorick]

The habitation check is an insurance requirement usually so a legal obligation, make a complaint / appeal not try to avoid unnecessary paperwork. I would fight this all the way. As a retired police officer I can understand that weekly they are given instructions without training or guidance by people who don’t understand the whole picture themselves

good luck and stay safe

It's not a legal requirement to own a motorhome.

And nothing like what you say will invalidate the minimum legal insurance cover.

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[Jim]

Why do people comply with this devastation of our Human Rights?

Maybe their tin foil isn't thick enough

 

[jacksmith]

2. Lowdhams aren’t in Newark! FAKE NEWS??

Lowdhams are in Gunthorpe, which is half way between Nottingham and Newark.

 

[Splasher6]

Our mot was done first week in Jan so we were lucky

 

[Agatha]

I think many have lost sight on the fact that all these restrictions on our freedom are based on a flawed PCR test. If you were issued with a fine for speeding when you knew you were well within the limit, and then a few months later it transpired that the speed camera was faulty, you you be ok with that.
Sure there are people dying of covid, but many that are down as covid deaths would have died anyway, without a covid positive test. Evidence is coming out that covid has been put on death certificates when covid was not the cause of death.
I am not a covid denier, but I do think we are being lied to. The psychological warfare has done its job on so much of the population. Please look at the evidence behind what the gov puts out.

 

[Sandancers]

To all those who say you can't drive your motorhome at all as it is not essential.

Imagine your motorhome is in storage and the storage company phones you and says "Really sorry, but a vandal has broken the side window on your motorhome".

Would you jump in your car and drive to the storage depot to fix it ? Is that an essential journey ? Or would you say to the storage place, "Well can you just put duct tape across the window please, doesn't matter if rain gets in, I deal with it when I can make non-essential journeys.

Or what if the storage depot said "really sorry, but the MH next to yours caught fire, yours didn't suffer more than superficial damage". Would you be happy to wait a couple of months before you made the non-essential journey to view the damage ?

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[sylvester1954]

Just think if the police had not been busy with you they may have had to arrest some poor criminal

The Police were doing their job..end of!

 

[physio49]

Please be aware - this is FAKE NEWS - reported on the Chauson website. So let's stop all the don't go out comments please.

 

[glenn2926]

The habitation check is an insurance requirement usually so a legal obligation, make a complaint / appeal not try to avoid unnecessary paperwork. I would fight this all the way. As a retired police officer I can understand that weekly they are given instructions without training or guidance by people who don’t understand the whole picture themselves

good luck and stay safe

I don’t know who you’re insured with but can assure you my insurance company doesn’t even mention a habitation check. Do you have your house checked each year?
An MOT is a different thing altogether. MOT tests are a legal requirement for the vehicle to be on a public road so under current restrictions are allowed.
Having said all that. We cannot use our motorhomes for their intended use at the moment so unless it is on a public road there is no need to have anything done to it. Some people are just trying to find ways to push the limits of what we are allowed to do.
If it’s not on the road leave it alone until we can get some freedom again. It really is that simple.

 

[Molly A]

In the OP's case, perhaps somebody complained to the police? Our van is our only vehicle, so under lockdown or not I use it once a week or so for the heavy shopping such as vegetables, potatoes and milk (the store is only a mile away). But I have on occasion been glared at by a public spirited member of the public. I'm sure if the police were nearby, that responsible person would have complained to police. BUT a couple of days ago I dropped it off at an en route garage for its overdue service. Coincidentally when I got back, I read this post. Was I a naughty boy? Oh yes, I also used it this week to to go for our vaccinations (9 miles away).

It's your only vehicle, I don't believe that is a hanging crime....

 

[Sandancers]

If it’s not on the road leave it alone until we can get some freedom again. It really is that simple.

So based on that, could you answer my question of post #230 ?

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[SpeedyDux]

I think it might be nice if you kept your rather naive comments to yourself. This so called mild disease put my previously fit 60 year old friend in ITU for 3 months. He is miraculously home but has had to have a stair lift put in and who knows how well he will ever be. My 25 year old god daughter who had it in November and was a keen runner only seemed to have it mildly but is still breathless now.

Have you not been reading the news or are you a conspiracy theorist, long Covid is beginning to look like a serious problem for the nations health. We don’t know much about it yet and the poor NHS certainly doesn’t have any resourses to deal with it.

I wanted to use a different word to naive in the first line but I didn’t want Jim to send me to Coventry. It’s early in the morning and I am a bit angry.

Well said. It does make me angry when people who are lucky not to be afflicted by long term complications dismiss Covid as not significantly more serious than seasonal flu.

Long Covid is not like any post-viral complication I ever experienced. I feel lucky that mine is not as bad as some whose stories I have read or seen on TV. I have been suffering since last March, and I had to go to A&E on 2 occasions in the months that followed. Right now the NHS can't or won't provide any follow-up unless I take a turn for the worse. The long slow recovery feels like it is taking forever, while it causes significant limits on normal daily activities. Luckily I am retired, because practising my profession would be almost impossible. Long Covid appears to be badly affecting many NHS medics too, and I feel for them.

 

[Hedley W]

So what about using moho (we do also have car) for essential Tesco shopping. Surely what defines what an essential vehicle is what you are useing it for I.e. essential shopping. As appose to a car is essential vehicle but a moho is not.???

It’s more about the purpose of journey, not what you do it in.

 

[LesW]

Please be aware - this is FAKE NEWS - reported on the Chauson website. So let's stop all the don't go out comments please.

It may well be fake news, but it's very interesting to read what people think is allowed/necessary/legal, such as a habition check being a legal requirement, or what vehicle you must do your shopping in, where do people get all this stuff form?

 

[glenn2926]

So based on that, could you answer my question of post #230 ?

Wow you do have a vivid imagination. Do all those things happen to you on a regular basis?
You are typical of the people I mentioned, always looking for a way to push the boundaries of the current restrictions.
It saddens me (and probably many others) that people that try to do things we are asked not to are the ones that are prolonging the restrictions but cannot see it.

 

[Kozikot]

To all those who say you can't drive your motorhome at all as it is not essential.

Imagine your motorhome is in storage and the storage company phones you and says "Really sorry, but a vandal has broken the side window on your motorhome".

Would you jump in your car and drive to the storage depot to fix it ? Is that an essential journey ? Or would you say to the storage place, "Well can you just put duct tape across the window please, doesn't matter if rain gets in, I deal with it when I can make non-essential journeys.

Or what if the storage depot said "really sorry, but the MH next to yours caught fire, yours didn't suffer more than superficial damage". Would you be happy to wait a couple of months before you made the non-essential journey to view the damage ?

Is that the best you can come up with ?
What if an UFO landed on it, and little green men started to Squat in it...

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