Failed First Habitation Check - All Because Lithium Battery Not in a Box!

[daash]

I despair at the knowledge of "dealer experts" and will be taking my vehicle elsewhere for its hab check. Mine failed because the lithium battery was not housed in a box. It is, however, securely strapped in with a steel, battery retaining clamp. The ignorance of dealers leads me to despair.
Is anyone aware of any authority who publicly issue guidelines for lithium? I've checked the NCC website but can find nothing in relation to the issue.
Cheers all.

 

[Minxy]

Might be better to alter the title to mention Lithium as it's not obvious so you'll miss replies from some.

 

[Phill D]

I was not aware that there is a fail or pass on a habitation check.
Only the observations of the checker, I refuse to refer to them technician or engineer.
Some observations affect warranty others are for the owner to decide what the next step is.

 

[Langtoftlad]

How do you "fail" a habitation check.
It just reports on the condition and notes possible suggested corrective action.

 

[GMLS]

Or just pay for the damp check to keep warranty.Everything else either works or it doesn't

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[daash]

This is my first hab check and I have quoted what the dealer reported to me. Thanks for pointing out that the hab check can only give an observation, that is very useful to know.

 

[daash]

Even the damp check is a moot point; it's a panel van. Are these habitation checks just money for old rope or do they have a genuine, useful use?

 

[Basildog]

I was not aware that there is a fail or pass on a habitation check.
Only the observations of the checker, I refuse to refer to them technician or engineer.
Some observations affect warranty others are for the owner to decide what the next step is.

It actually beggars belief that some of these Habitation check guys and dealers refer to themselves as LPG engineers ?
What are they smoking ?
I am fortunate to be a humble plumber that happens to do a bit of gas

 

[Kannon Fodda]

My lithium, professionally installed by Vanbitz, is not in any box, simply under the rear bench seat in my PVC and secured with a cloth based strap.

 

[TinaLes]

Picture of your Battery would help. Many have assembled their own Lithium battery packs, with a BMS on the side, which can then be placed inside a "Battery Casing"
If the battery is inside a case, and is sufficiently secured/strapped down inside the van, then that surely is all that can be expected of any battery type.
LES

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[daash]

It is a 200Ah Renogy:

 

[Lenny HB]

How can it fail a hab check mind you I have never had one just have the damp check for the warranty. The hab side I take care of myself.
Even damp checks are a rip off why should the customer pay to find the manufacturers errors even more so with a PVC. Some PVC's don't require a damp check I think Malibu is one.

 

[daash]

This is really useful info fellow Funsters. So, a hab check is not compulsory to maintain the manufacturer's warranty but a damp check is?

 

[Fdhadi]

If it’s the first Hab check and it has “Failed” then surely the dealer needs to be reported for supplying a vehicle this way. How did the vehicle pass a PDI Check originally?
Personally, I honestly don’t see a problem if the battery is secured.

 

[Lenny HB]

This is really useful info fellow Funsters. So, a hab check is not compulsory to maintain the manufacturer's warranty but a damp check is?

Most German vans a hab check isn't needed defiantly not required on Hymer's and Carthago's. Brit manufacturers normally stitch you up and require a hab & damp check to keep the damp warranty.

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[daash]

The AGM battery, supplied by Erwin Hymer group was very, very poor so I upgraded the system to include 300W solar, Victron PSU, Victron MPPT, 200Ah Lithium,new breakers, isolators, etc, etc. All done very neatly and professionally. l'll post a picture of the install tomorrow as it will give some context.

 

[SSILVO]

I despair at the knowledge of "dealer experts" and will be taking my vehicle elsewhere for its hab check. Mine failed because the lithium battery was not housed in a box. It is, however, securely strapped in with a steel, battery retaining clamp. The ignorance of dealers leads me to despair.
Is anyone aware of any authority who publicly issue guidelines for lithium? I've checked the NCC website but can find nothing in relation to the issue.
Cheers all.

I have 3 lithium one of which is not in a box but is clamped down ....and it passed

 

[Lenny HB]

The AGM battery, supplied by Erwin Hymer group was very, very poor so I upgraded the system to include 300W solar, Victron PSU, Victron MPPT, 200Ah Lithium,new breakers, isolators, etc, etc. All done very neatly and professionally. l'll post a picture of the install tomorrow as it will give some context.

I thought you had a Compass as that's what is says in your profile.

 

[daash]

I do have a Compass - they are part of the Erwin Hymer Group now (like so many others) https://www.erwinhymergroup.com/en/brands-products/compass

 

[SSILVO]

I have 3 lithium one of which is not in a box but is clamped down ....and it passed

Sorry I should not have said it passed as its a report not a test.The guy who done mine is one of the few swift trained mobile engineers left and passed no comment on the form

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[eddie]

Lithium batteries HAVE to be in a box in case the acid leaks out!

Fairly obvious

 

[Lenny HB]

Lithium batteries HAVE to be in a box in case the acid leaks out!

Fairly obvious

Have you got a patent on this Lithium acid Eddie?

 

[daash]

Lithium batteries do not contain acid.

 

[the1andonly]

Lithium batteries HAVE to be in a box in case the acid leaks out!

Fairly obvious

And the right way down, or up or sideways?

 

[the1andonly]

Did eddie get a big key for Christmas?

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[daash]

Oops - I'm off to bed. I just fell for that hook, line and sinker.

 

[donkey]

You should ignore eddievanbitz, everybody else does

Geoff

 

[daash]

Here's a photo of my install. I'm going to shorten the clamp retainers today.

 

[Badknee]

Even the damp check is a moot point; it's a panel van. Are these habitation checks just money for old rope or do they have a genuine, useful use?

Wherever there’s a hole cut in a vehicle there could be damp ingress. Roof lights, ariel, lockers, cassette locker, yadda, yadda, yadda. You say it’s your first one, who asked for it?
If your van is 12 month old then the manufacturer should be checking it for free to make sure they’ve done their job properly!

 

[Riverbankannie]

I have never had a hab check on a PVC. I check around the windows and vents myself and , as others have said, if it works, I can put in my own tick. I will pay for routine servicing and gas tank test when the time comes.