This was also on sale....Yes that’s the one there’s also a cheaper one with a blue label quite nice.
But we thought we'd splash out
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This was also on sale....Yes that’s the one there’s also a cheaper one with a blue label quite nice.
And only €1.60 in Lidl.Is this the one?
Currently enjoying it on the terrace of our hotel suite on the Canary Island of La Palma.
€2.79 (£2.32) at the local Lidl.
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Very nice it is too!
Doesn't matter..as long as you like it Chaser. BUSBYI got 24 bottles of this in the end from Lidl in gravelines 1.99 euros.as good as anything we drink.
Does anyone know if it's supposed to be a good one or not?
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I should of said "Selected by Lidl"Thing is though it's not " Lidl " wine , they just sell other people's, same as the other shops.
She manages a vineyard and has no reason to mis-inform me.She's very ill informed.
For many reasons,
Not all vineyards produce bottles
All go through major quality control when sold through multiple like adli and lidl and the like, they don't even get on the list if certains standards aren't verified and checked.
You can produce, bottle and sell without going through application controllee or similar.
And a whole host of other reasons, not least of all like who would let there business suffer by allowing "sweepings" in there product.
An finally, the cost of wine has no bearing whatsoever on quality, apart from the silly Beaujolais nouveau annual run, which is generally poorer, but no mice in it lol
I actually thought you were somewhat joking at first ! I didnt say she has reason to mis inform you, I said she has been ill informed.She manages a vineyard and has no reason to mis-inform me.
I have also observed machine picking where the next stage is feeding harvest into press without further inspection.
Re cost. It would seem strange that more expensive wine are no better quality.Begs the question why it sell for higher price.
Cheers!
The cheap wines are mass produced by the tanker load and hence come from huge vineyards from which the grapes are pooled. More expensive wines come from much smaller parcels of land often higher up the valley sides and may only yield hundreds of bottles. I had 3 rows of vines that produced Gevery Chamberlain grand cru from which we got about 12 cases. There is a map of the Rhone valley where individual parcels of land are shown and the grape varieties and wines produced. Some of the parcels of land are no bigger than an average garden and the wine is produced just from that parcel of land so not surprising it costs more. Thus even within the same wine there are subtle differences in taste and aroma depending on the parcel of land from where the vines were growing. Very enjoyable tasting wines grown in similar areas and the vintage. But no driving! We stayed on one small vineyard that was owned by a guy who raced for a number of years in the TDF and the team gave him a new Willier bike every year..... Then my wife developed an issue with red wine.... So that was the end of that entertainment and switched to beer, lager for her IPA for me c'est la vie!She manages a vineyard and has no reason to mis-inform me.
I have also observed machine picking where the next stage is feeding harvest into press without further inspection.
Re cost. It would seem strange that more expensive wine are no better quality.Begs the question why it sell for higher price.
Cheers!
I don't know if this tongue in cheek or not, but how can you tell just by price before you have tasted it.£8 is the cheapest wine we are prepared to drink in the UK, and that's a £10 bottle on offer. We pay £7 in Spain for a bargain bottle
I'm jealous of those of you who enjoy wine at £4 a bottle.
You can't.I don't know if this tongue in cheek or not, but how can you tell just by price before you have tasted it.
Production cost high where daughter is $74 per bottle this year, an example corks €1 each std bottle. Sold out this years production.Depending on the variety, and method as mc Louis says above.
You have allsorts of variables.
Hand leafed and picked
Time spent in barrels
Was the fruit dry grown away form the vineyards
Smaller yields vineyards tend to use better quality bottles/labelling etc ££
If you are a smaller producer the machinery is expensive, that cost has to be recouped on fewer bottles ££
Premium new oak versus old oak barrels.
Then there are over productions??? Where does that go? It's sold cheaper.
It goes on, cost per bottle doesn't always equate to quality (which can be subjective anyway)
Just recently received this one not a Grand Cru though. Christmas present along with a Mersault and 2 more boxes not opened yet. CheersThe cheap wines are mass produced by the tanker load and hence come from huge vineyards from which the grapes are pooled. More expensive wines come from much smaller parcels of land often higher up the valley sides and may only yield hundreds of bottles. I had 3 rows of vines that produced Gevery Chamberlain grand cru from which we got about 12 cases. There is a map of the Rhone valley where individual parcels of land are shown and the grape varieties and wines produced. Some of the parcels of land are no bigger than an average garden and the wine is produced just from that parcel of land so not surprising it costs more. Thus even within the same wine there are subtle differences in taste and aroma depending on the parcel of land from where the vines were growing. Very enjoyable tasting wines grown in similar areas and the vintage. But no driving! We stayed on one small vineyard that was owned by a guy who raced for a number of years in the TDF and the team gave him a new Willier bike every year..... Then my wife developed an issue with red wine.... So that was the end of that entertainment and switched to beer, lager for her IPA for me c'est la vie!