Ere we go again.

Yes that’s the one there’s also a cheaper one with a blue label quite nice.
This was also on sale....
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But we thought we'd splash out::bigsmile:
 
Haven't been away for a while due to health reasons. I like the rioja from Morrisons, unfortunately around £8 a bottle and have a stock in. Practically out of Cristatus monastrell red, 60l bought at the bodega last year for around a euro per litre. In UK its £8.49 for 750ml bottle.

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She's very ill informed.
For many reasons,
Not all vineyards produce bottles

All go through major quality control when sold through multiple like adli and lidl and the like, they don't even get on the list if certains standards aren't verified and checked.

You can produce, bottle and sell without going through application controllee or similar.

And a whole host of other reasons, not least of all like who would let there business suffer by allowing "sweepings" in there product.

An finally, the cost of wine has no bearing whatsoever on quality, apart from the silly Beaujolais nouveau annual run, which is generally poorer, but no mice in it lol
She manages a vineyard and has no reason to mis-inform me.
I have also observed machine picking where the next stage is feeding harvest into press without further inspection.
Re cost. It would seem strange that more expensive wine are no better quality.Begs the question why it sell for higher price.
Cheers!
 
She manages a vineyard and has no reason to mis-inform me.
I have also observed machine picking where the next stage is feeding harvest into press without further inspection.
Re cost. It would seem strange that more expensive wine are no better quality.Begs the question why it sell for higher price.
Cheers!
I actually thought you were somewhat joking at first ! I didnt say she has reason to mis inform you, I said she has been ill informed.
to say these things get into the wine and do harm is a stretch. Some animals are used to help the harvests and keep other pests down

sounds like the one where rats are fried instead of chicken in KFC

Oh and did you know on average we eat 20 spiders in our sleep
 
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She manages a vineyard and has no reason to mis-inform me.
I have also observed machine picking where the next stage is feeding harvest into press without further inspection.
Re cost. It would seem strange that more expensive wine are no better quality.Begs the question why it sell for higher price.
Cheers!
The cheap wines are mass produced by the tanker load and hence come from huge vineyards from which the grapes are pooled. More expensive wines come from much smaller parcels of land often higher up the valley sides and may only yield hundreds of bottles. I had 3 rows of vines that produced Gevery Chamberlain grand cru from which we got about 12 cases. There is a map of the Rhone valley where individual parcels of land are shown and the grape varieties and wines produced. Some of the parcels of land are no bigger than an average garden and the wine is produced just from that parcel of land so not surprising it costs more. Thus even within the same wine there are subtle differences in taste and aroma depending on the parcel of land from where the vines were growing. Very enjoyable tasting wines grown in similar areas and the vintage. But no driving! We stayed on one small vineyard that was owned by a guy who raced for a number of years in the TDF and the team gave him a new Willier bike every year..... Then my wife developed an issue with red wine.... So that was the end of that entertainment and switched to beer, lager for her IPA for me c'est la vie! 😂

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£8 is the cheapest wine we are prepared to drink in the UK, and that's a £10 bottle on offer. We pay £7 in Spain for a bargain bottle :)

I'm jealous of those of you who enjoy wine at £4 a bottle.
 
Depending on the variety, and method as mc Louis says above.
You have allsorts of variables.
Hand leafed and picked
Time spent in barrels
Was the fruit dry grown away form the vineyards
Smaller yields vineyards tend to use better quality bottles/labelling etc ££

If you are a smaller producer the machinery is expensive, that cost has to be recouped on fewer bottles ££
Premium new oak versus old oak barrels.
Then there are over productions??? Where does that go? It's sold cheaper.
It goes on, cost per bottle doesn't always equate to quality (which can be subjective anyway)
 
£8 is the cheapest wine we are prepared to drink in the UK, and that's a £10 bottle on offer. We pay £7 in Spain for a bargain bottle :)

I'm jealous of those of you who enjoy wine at £4 a bottle.
I don't know if this tongue in cheek or not, but how can you tell just by price before you have tasted it.
 
I don't know if this tongue in cheek or not, but how can you tell just by price before you have tasted it.
You can't.
But if its placebo, then let people go for it.

Mmm this is lovely cost it cost 50.00

My brother got me a Louis 14th fondillon about 200.00 for my bday once.
No nicer than a local from the garage for 12.00
 
When we lived in Doha, my boss used to collect wines and had a storage facility in London where he lived when on leave, next door to the Saudi embassy, he opened a bottle of wine one night when we were there for dinner, I didn’t have any. I don’t like wine, but Duncan likes red, and had some and said he thought that it was corked! Zuhair I looked up and said I hope not 250 quid a bottle!

Who in their right mind buys wine at that price? Well he does but then he could afford to

Great guy though

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Depending on the variety, and method as mc Louis says above.
You have allsorts of variables.
Hand leafed and picked
Time spent in barrels
Was the fruit dry grown away form the vineyards
Smaller yields vineyards tend to use better quality bottles/labelling etc ££

If you are a smaller producer the machinery is expensive, that cost has to be recouped on fewer bottles ££
Premium new oak versus old oak barrels.
Then there are over productions??? Where does that go? It's sold cheaper.
It goes on, cost per bottle doesn't always equate to quality (which can be subjective anyway)
Production cost high where daughter is $74 per bottle this year, an example corks €1 each std bottle. Sold out this years production.
 
The cheap wines are mass produced by the tanker load and hence come from huge vineyards from which the grapes are pooled. More expensive wines come from much smaller parcels of land often higher up the valley sides and may only yield hundreds of bottles. I had 3 rows of vines that produced Gevery Chamberlain grand cru from which we got about 12 cases. There is a map of the Rhone valley where individual parcels of land are shown and the grape varieties and wines produced. Some of the parcels of land are no bigger than an average garden and the wine is produced just from that parcel of land so not surprising it costs more. Thus even within the same wine there are subtle differences in taste and aroma depending on the parcel of land from where the vines were growing. Very enjoyable tasting wines grown in similar areas and the vintage. But no driving! We stayed on one small vineyard that was owned by a guy who raced for a number of years in the TDF and the team gave him a new Willier bike every year..... Then my wife developed an issue with red wine.... So that was the end of that entertainment and switched to beer, lager for her IPA for me c'est la vie! 😂
Just recently received this one not a Grand Cru though. Christmas present along with a Mersault and 2 more boxes not opened yet. Cheers
 

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