Doc on tour, France, Spain, Morroco.

cyberyacht · 2025-02-14T13:11:29+0000

Barriesimpson said:
Pigs do not sweat, and this is the main reason that undercooked pork could be infected and therefor dangerous for human consumption

I thought the saying was "Pigs sweat, men perspire but ladies merely glow."

B+W vanman · 2025-02-14T13:17:49+0000

Think thats “horses sweat…”

Barriesimpson · 2025-02-14T13:34:47+0000

cyberyacht said:
I thought the saying was "Pigs sweat, men perspire but ladies merely glow."

But refering to humans, not our 4 legged friends

scotzsue · 2025-02-14T14:15:37+0000

Love that collection of spices Tam, so nice to get flavour without food just being too hot to eat.

G-RMPS · 2025-02-14T15:11:19+0000

I thought it was:

Horses sweat, gentlemen perspire, and ladies feel the heat!

Northernraider · 2025-02-14T16:03:04+0000

Left our parking spot early this morning drove up through Rabat which once again was spotless. ...honestly if you want to visit a clean place in Morocco then Rabat is the place, you would think you were in a different country altogether. Didn't stop though, on to kenitra which I found to be a right shithole the last time I was in Morocco so I hadn't planned to go near it but that's where my number plates and surrounds had been dumped so I picked them up from the campsite there and then headed to fez along the n4 ......first half of that wasn't very nice lots of roadworks and unfinished road and a crazy amount of police checkpoints and speed traps but the second half after our lunch stop wasn't so bad and some nice green and hilly scenery through some little villages. .. got to fez around 15.30 , I'm parked in the guardian parking next to the medina as its apparently the safest place around here and besides its the closest to have a walk around the medina in the morning . 40dh for 24 hours , it won't be the quietest and I'm not even in a proper bay as they don't have very big spaces but it'll do for tonight and there's about 8 other motorhomes here .....a smaller than mine . I'll give the dogs a walk in the morning then I can have a good look around the medina on my own in peace. Hopefully pick up some sheepskins if they're the right price and I'll get a second pair of leather sandals too .

Lunch stop

Camper all the way from Republic of Korea

Parking spot ... guardian had be back and forth like a fiddlers elbow only to end up where I'd parked it in the first place.

Warm here .....its 23° now at 5pm .... but feels warmer than that

Yamas · 2025-02-14T17:18:42+0000

Tam there is a job on uk campsites Treveor farm campsite in Cornwall, will accept dogs

Northernraider · 2025-02-14T17:23:13+0000

Yamas said:
Tam there is a job on uk campsites Treveor farm campsite in Cornwall, will accept dogs

Aye I saw it .

Not for me

PaulW2 · 2025-02-14T17:54:30+0000

G-RMPS said:
I thought it was:

Horses sweat, gentlemen perspire, and ladies feel the heat!

I always had it as horses sweat, gentlemen perspire and ladies glow.

Ladies 'feel the heat' sounds a little bit ... ooh matron, doesn't it?

At what angle does your dingle dongle dangle?
It depends on the heat of the meat and the drag of the bag.

bigtwin · 2025-02-14T18:01:25+0000

PaulW2 said:
At what angle does your dingle dongle dangle?
It depends on the heat of the meat and the drag of the bag.

Alternatively,

When the heat of the beat
coincides with the throb of the ……
the angle of the dangle
is a constant

Ian

Northernraider · 2025-02-14T19:10:07+0000

So here's a question for you guys

When I arrived at this guardian parking he told me where to park which left me in front of a Belgian motorhome and I'm not in a proper bay ...but on the bit road leading in to the bays .. he wasn't happy how I parked so had me going back and forth weaving closer to the kerb so that my wheeltrims are almost hitting it.

Another big 9 metre tag axle French van has just come in and Mr guardian out there with a bloody whistle and shouting to the guy trying to guide him ...at one point he had the French motorhome an inch at most off my front bumper ...he couldn't park where he tried so he had him moving back and forth again and again and eventually there came a loud crack as his van hit an exit sign ... guard never blinked just carried on peeping his whistle and directing the guy ... there's a 12 inch scrape and red paint on his van off the sign .. and the guard has now backed him in to a corner he's sure to get penned in tomorrow.

So my question is this ....would you trust one of these clowns? and if you bumped your van under their instructions what would you do?

Now when I worked in warehousing I had to do a training course and a practical and written test in order to become a qualified banksman

As a banks man the first thing I'd do when a lorry turned up was introduce myself to the driver, tell him where I wanted the trailer parked and I'd then assume control of the vehicle to guide him there. He followed my instructions to the letter even if it meant he crashed the lorry because I was then responsible for it not him . If he ran someone over I was to blame etc .. hence the company having insurance to cover that eventuality

Not much chance of getting a claim from these guys I imagine

This is a proper gated carpark with a pay machine and tickets etc and a uniformed guard not just the local chancer in a yellow vest but still ....I'll be interested to see if he gets anywhere . The French couple are out looking at it just now guard wandered off lol

PaulW2 · 2025-02-14T19:18:16+0000

Northernraider said:
So here's a question for you guys

When I arrived at this guardian parking he told me where to park which left me in front of a Belgian motorhome and I'm not in a proper bay ...but on the bit road leading in to the bays .. he wasn't happy how I parked so had me going back and forth weaving closer to the kerb so that my wheeltrims are almost hitting it.

Another big 9 metre tag axle French van has just come in and Mr guardian out there with a bloody whistle and shouting to the guy trying to guide him ...at one point he had the French motorhome an inch at most off my front bumper ...he couldn't park where he tried so he had him moving back and forth again and again and eventually there came a loud crack as his van hit an exit sign ... guard never blinked just carried on peeping his whistle and directing the guy ... there's a 12 inch scrape on the guys van and red paint off the sign .. guard has backed him in to a corner he's sure to get penned in tomorrow.

So my question is this ....would you trust one of these clowns? and if you bumped your van under their instructions what would you do?

Now when I worked in warehousing I had to do a training course and a practical and written test in order to become a qualified banksman

As a banks man the first thing I'd do when a lorry turned up was introduce myself to the driver, tell him where I wanted the trailer parked and I'd then assume control of the vehicle to guide him there. He followed my instructions to the letter even if it meant he crashed the lorry because I was then responsible for it not him . If he ran someone over I was to blame etc .. hence the company having insurance to cover that eventuality

Not much chance of getting a claim from these guys I imagine

This is a proper gated carpark with a pay machine and tickets etc and a uniformed guard not just the local chancer in a yellow vest but still ....I'll be interested to see if he gets anywhere . The French couple are out looking at it just now guard wandered off lol

Little chance of getting him to accept any responsibility I would guess. A similar thing happened to me in France in 2010 at a 'proper' campsite. Arrived at the Paris campsite late and the attendant guided me. Bashed a wheel arch into a tree stump under his guidance. That was also just my problem...

Northernraider · 2025-02-14T19:20:31+0000

PaulW2 said:
Little chance of getting him to accept any responsibility I would guess. A similar thing happened to me in France in 2010 at a 'proper' campsite. Arrived at the Paris campsite late and the attendant guided me. Bashed a wheel arch into a tree stump under his guidance. That was also just my problem...

Aye that's my feeling too. Quite a new van too .

Dutch 68 · 2025-02-14T19:49:36+0000

Northernraider said:
So here's a question for you guys

When I arrived at this guardian parking he told me where to park which left me in front of a Belgian motorhome and I'm not in a proper bay ...but on the bit road leading in to the bays .. he wasn't happy how I parked so had me going back and forth weaving closer to the kerb so that my wheeltrims are almost hitting it.

Another big 9 metre tag axle French van has just come in and Mr guardian out there with a bloody whistle and shouting to the guy trying to guide him ...at one point he had the French motorhome an inch at most off my front bumper ...he couldn't park where he tried so he had him moving back and forth again and again and eventually there came a loud crack as his van hit an exit sign ... guard never blinked just carried on peeping his whistle and directing the guy ... there's a 12 inch scrape and red paint on his van off the sign .. and the guard has now backed him in to a corner he's sure to get penned in tomorrow.

So my question is this ....would you trust one of these clowns? and if you bumped your van under their instructions what would you do?

Now when I worked in warehousing I had to do a training course and a practical and written test in order to become a qualified banksman

As a banks man the first thing I'd do when a lorry turned up was introduce myself to the driver, tell him where I wanted the trailer parked and I'd then assume control of the vehicle to guide him there. He followed my instructions to the letter even if it meant he crashed the lorry because I was then responsible for it not him . If he ran someone over I was to blame etc .. hence the company having insurance to cover that eventuality

Not much chance of getting a claim from these guys I imagine

This is a proper gated carpark with a pay machine and tickets etc and a uniformed guard not just the local chancer in a yellow vest but still ....I'll be interested to see if he gets anywhere . The French couple are out looking at it just now guard wandered off lol

You have no chance, banksman or not the driver is always responsible, the banksman is there to guide you, a driver can never hide behind a banksman when it goes wrong. Every company can on their own premises make up the rules for banksman but that doesn’t mean that I blindly follow, if I don’t trust it I will check it myself, this has saved my ass multiple times, these days I have 5 cameras, 6 mirrors , 4 proximity sensors with audible warning and led traffic light system, a voice box repeating vehicle turning left by left indicator use and same for reverse so plenty of assistance

pelican · 2025-02-14T19:58:42+0000

Dutch 68 said:
You have no chance, banksman or not the driver is always responsible, the banksman is there to guide you, a driver can never hide behind a banksman when it goes wrong. Every company can on their own premises make up the rules for banksman but that doesn’t mean that I blindly follow, if I don’t trust it I will check it myself, this has saved my ass multiple times, these days I have 5 cameras, 6 mirrors , 4 proximity sensors with audible warning and led traffic light system, a voice box repeating vehicle turning left by left indicator use and same for reverse so plenty of assistance

More Joys of Morroco

Dutch 68 · 2025-02-14T20:02:01+0000

pelican said:
More Joys of Morroco

Guardian parking attendants getting people to manoeuvre within an inch of other people’s pride and joy is not ok

jongood · 2025-02-14T20:03:08+0000

Northernraider said:
So here's a question for you guys

When I arrived at this guardian parking he told me where to park which left me in front of a Belgian motorhome and I'm not in a proper bay ...but on the bit road leading in to the bays .. he wasn't happy how I parked so had me going back and forth weaving closer to the kerb so that my wheeltrims are almost hitting it.

Another big 9 metre tag axle French van has just come in and Mr guardian out there with a bloody whistle and shouting to the guy trying to guide him ...at one point he had the French motorhome an inch at most off my front bumper ...he couldn't park where he tried so he had him moving back and forth again and again and eventually there came a loud crack as his van hit an exit sign ... guard never blinked just carried on peeping his whistle and directing the guy ... there's a 12 inch scrape and red paint on his van off the sign .. and the guard has now backed him in to a corner he's sure to get penned in tomorrow.

So my question is this ....would you trust one of these clowns? and if you bumped your van under their instructions what would you do?

Now when I worked in warehousing I had to do a training course and a practical and written test in order to become a qualified banksman

As a banks man the first thing I'd do when a lorry turned up was introduce myself to the driver, tell him where I wanted the trailer parked and I'd then assume control of the vehicle to guide him there. He followed my instructions to the letter even if it meant he crashed the lorry because I was then responsible for it not him . If he ran someone over I was to blame etc .. hence the company having insurance to cover that eventuality

Not much chance of getting a claim from these guys I imagine

This is a proper gated carpark with a pay machine and tickets etc and a uniformed guard not just the local chancer in a yellow vest but still ....I'll be interested to see if he gets anywhere . The French couple are out looking at it just now guard wandered off lol

Use your own judgement, its always the best way. Doesn't matter where you are.

jongood · 2025-02-14T20:03:43+0000

pelican said:
More Joys of Morroco

Nobody is making anybody go.

Northernraider · 2025-02-14T20:14:24+0000

jongood said:
Use your own judgement, its always the best way. Doesn't matter where you are.

I always do. It's just a shame the French man didn't as he's got a damaged van. And he's very lucky he didn't hit mine as I'd have slapped him.

I'm a little dubious though where he has me parked as i imagine this carpark will get busy tomorrow.

1967bowesj · 2025-02-14T20:29:20+0000

jongood said:
Nobody is making anybody go.

Think most of the peeps are turning to not wanting to go due to reading the current group of threads lol.

Northernraider · 2025-02-14T20:37:25+0000

1967bowesj said:
Think most of the peeps are turning to not wanting to go due to reading the current group of threads lol.

Only mine surely

before I blocked it the other Morocco thread painted it rose coloured .

Just me being negative it was said.

But I've not seen it in a while.....

This medina was good from memory of last time though so should be interesting tomorrow.

I am counting down the days till I get back to Spain though.

Northernraider · 2025-02-14T20:42:24+0000

Dutch 68 said:
You have no chance, banksman or not the driver is always responsible, the banksman is there to guide you, a driver can never hide behind a banksman when it goes wrong. Every company can on their own premises make up the rules for banksman but that doesn’t mean that I blindly follow, if I don’t trust it I will check it myself, this has saved my ass multiple times, these days I have 5 cameras, 6 mirrors , 4 proximity sensors with audible warning and led traffic light system, a voice box repeating vehicle turning left by left indicator use and same for reverse so plenty of assistance

Company I worked for " havelock europa" their policy was you followed the banksman or you didn't get loaded/unloaded.

Fortunately we had 6 good banksmen.

Too many incidents of damage done to loading bay and loading doors prior to that.

Amazing how many drivers could check their mirrors but weren't aware of their vehicles height etc.

pelican · 2025-02-14T20:46:26+0000

1967bowesj said:
Think most of the peeps are turning to not wanting to go due to reading the current group of threads lol.

Well said.
Let's hope better awaits when back in UK!

Jimbohorlicks · 2025-02-14T20:48:14+0000

Northernraider said:
Company I worked for " havelock europa" their policy was you followed the banksman or you didn't get loaded/unloaded.

Fortunately we had 6 good banksmen.

Too many incidents of damage done to loading bay and loading doors prior to that.

Amazing how many drivers could check their mirrors but weren't aware of their vehicles height etc.

You dont have to park up if you don't like it.or don't like the instructions
Just move on. Plenty more park ups available

Northernraider · 2025-02-14T20:55:56+0000

Jimbohorlicks said:
You dont have to park up if you don't like it.or don't like the instructions
Just move on. Plenty more park ups available

Not next to the medina there aren't. And the ones not guarded are now having police move folk. That's why I'm on a guarded parking or I wouldn't be.

1967bowesj · 2025-02-14T21:01:48+0000

Northernraider said:
Not next to the medina there aren't. And the ones not guarded are now having police move folk. That's why I'm on a guarded parking or I wouldn't be.

I’m sure it will serve a purpose and move on further north when done!

Northernraider · 2025-02-14T21:08:46+0000

1967bowesj said:
I’m sure it will serve a purpose and move on further north when done!

Yes I hadn't originally planned to park here overnight but Mike and brenna said when they got here around 11am it was difficult to get a space so I thought fair enough I'll park up tonight and have a walk around tomorrow...its 40dh for 24 hours so that'll do .. I'll be on the road again after lunch and heading up to a lake spot between here and chefchouan. .

CazPaul · 2025-02-14T21:11:00+0000

How the van driving Tam, no issues apart from the braking stuff you mentioned, is it a nice smooth drive otherwise?

Northernraider · 2025-02-14T21:18:26+0000

CazPaul said:
How the van driving Tam, no issues apart from the braking stuff you mentioned, is it a nice smooth drive otherwise?

Yeah all fine , few more rattles on these roads than I normally get but fortunately holding up well. Brakes have been fine the last couple of weeks .. no issues . Had the dreaded red light flash once today when I was overtaking but just the once .

Northernraider · 2025-02-14T22:27:33+0000

The other pet gripe with these guardian blokes is they can't leave you in peace.

Milo wanted out for a pee around 10pm so I put his lead on and took him out to the bit grass nearby ....guard appears behind me with an evening sir ...milo of course starts barking .. he's trying to direct me out the carpark to the street outside I waved my hand and said its fine he just needs a pee.

Gets back in van.

Takes dogs out for a last pee just now , 2 at a time , jade and milo then ela and blu and the bugger is there again so this time blu wants to jump on him . Yet when a load of noisy teenagers ran through shouting and cheering earlier the bugger was no where to be seen.

Bleeding pest more than a guard.

It's all gone quiet now thankfully....I'm off to bed

One good think about Morocco has been no mosquitoes.....not sure how that is but I've not had a single mosquito since I got here.

Maybe they can't get peace from Moroccans either

Doc on tour, France, Spain, Morroco.

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