Did I save your expensive moho mirror today?

We gave had our first trip since I fitted “Van Ears”. I am convinced that they made a difference on some of the narrower roads we travelled on. Oncoming lorries and vans seemed to keep their distance a bit better.
Oops! My funster stick upside down :Smile:
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Come on, put us out of our misery... where did you get them and how much (y)
 
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Just means you can pass exams not that you have any coomon sense.
Most magistrates I knew were like that.
The ADI qualification process is a three part one. The first being a theory test so yes it’s an exam. The other two parts are VERY hard and I doubt you could get through without common sense. The ROSPA and IAM TESTS are assessment based tests involving more driving and again need a fair bit of common sense .
I did the ADI qualification but as yet haven’t gone further , although I’m tempted to do IAM to get cheaper insurance
 
The wide mirrors was one of the reasons we only held onto our coachbuilt for 6 months and are now going back to a PVC. Having wing mirrors that take up three lanes of motorway (ok...an exaggeration but they are effing wide) is a pain and I got fed up with wincing and swerving into the hedge on narrow roads every time we passed an oncoming MoHo with similar mirrors, or a speeding delivery van wandering into the centre of the road (I think some van drivers do it deliberately to wind MoHo owners up!). On another facebook group related to our ex-van, it was a regular question...'where can i get replacement mirrors at a reasonable price...?'.
I'll keep the other reasons for selling and going back to a PVC for other posts, but they are nearly all related to the difficulty in accessing the remote sorts of places that we love.
Ditto
 
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The ADI qualification process is a three part one. The first being a theory test so yes it’s an exam. The other two parts are VERY hard and I doubt you could get through without common sense.

Unless the modules of an A.D.I. test / exam have changed since 1996 when I passed mine, the second part is a driving test to a far, far higher standard than a normal basic driving test & the third is a test of instructional ability with a chief examiner playing the fool a.k.a. roleplay.

It is / was core based so one had to be extremely competent in all three tests / exams, oodles of common sense was / is an absolute necessity as well as an almost encyclopaedic knowledge of the Highway Code, Advanced Driving, etc etc.
 
And re tested every 4 years for ADI!

Apache the RoSPA test is better than the IAM (IMHO), you get a 4 page written report and a grade rather than just pass or fail.
 
Do all those letter after your name stop stupid uninsured drivers hitting you? Just asking. As the L.R.P.S after my name don’t work.

Nor does focol get me free food in London 😀
 
We're in the UK, it's "maths" not "math"

Pinched from Mr Google ............... :gum:

If you ever got into contact with the word "mathematics", you have certainly also seen at least one of the nouns from the pair "math" and "maths". But which one is correct? How do you spell it shortly, "math" or "maths"? Let's take a quick look upon this linguistic confusion to make sure you get it right.

Math vs. Maths

Both "math" and "maths" are abbreviations for the word "mathematics", the complex science that studies numbers and shapes. We can't claim that any of these abbreviated forms is right or wrong, because they are just shorter versions for the full noun ("mathematics"). Whether you prefer adding the last "s" or not is a matterof personal choice and culture, according to how you've been educated in school and how you have seen it spelled more frequently.

There are, anyway, some statistics that show how often "math" and "maths" are used. It turns out that, just as it happens for other pairs of words that differ through only one letter, the frequency of use regarding the different abbreviations differs from British to Americans. Here's how:

When do we use "maths"?

"Maths" is the abbreviation preferred by the British. In the UK, they say that "mathematics" ends in "s" and so should its short form. It's more likely that if you ask a British person, they would tell you they prefer "maths" as they have seen it spelled like this all the time.

When do we use "math"?

"Math" is preferred by the Americans, not only because they usually go for the shorter forms, but also because they consider "mathematics" is a mass noun that takes singular verbs and should, therefore, be abbreviated without the "s" in the end.

Conclusion

"Math" and "maths" are not complete words on their own and. As abbreviations, they can't be considered wrong or right. Choosing a form will be partially influenced by your personal choice and logic, and partially by the region where you've learned to spell it. British use "maths" more often and Americans prefer "math", but this does not define any rule for correct spelling.

So, there you have it. Learning all the time.:emo:
 
Pinched from Mr Google ............... :gum:

If you ever got into contact with the word "mathematics", you have certainly also seen at least one of the nouns from the pair "math" and "maths". But which one is correct? How do you spell it shortly, "math" or "maths"? Let's take a quick look upon this linguistic confusion to make sure you get it right.

Math vs. Maths

Both "math" and "maths" are abbreviations for the word "mathematics", the complex science that studies numbers and shapes. We can't claim that any of these abbreviated forms is right or wrong, because they are just shorter versions for the full noun ("mathematics"). Whether you prefer adding the last "s" or not is a matterof personal choice and culture, according to how you've been educated in school and how you have seen it spelled more frequently.

There are, anyway, some statistics that show how often "math" and "maths" are used. It turns out that, just as it happens for other pairs of words that differ through only one letter, the frequency of use regarding the different abbreviations differs from British to Americans. Here's how:

When do we use "maths"?

"Maths" is the abbreviation preferred by the British. In the UK, they say that "mathematics" ends in "s" and so should its short form. It's more likely that if you ask a British person, they would tell you they prefer "maths" as they have seen it spelled like this all the time.

When do we use "math"?

"Math" is preferred by the Americans, not only because they usually go for the shorter forms, but also because they consider "mathematics" is a mass noun that takes singular verbs and should, therefore, be abbreviated without the "s" in the end.

Conclusion

"Math" and "maths" are not complete words on their own and. As abbreviations, they can't be considered wrong or right. Choosing a form will be partially influenced by your personal choice and logic, and partially by the region where you've learned to spell it. British use "maths" more often and Americans prefer "math", but this does not define any rule for correct spelling.

So, there you have it. Learning all the time.:emo:
Yeah but, if you use math you sound like an American and that’s about as bad as it gets,🤣🤣

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my 2p on maths v math
It should be written with an 's' cos its a plural.
Mathematics is a collection of different 'disciplines'

Not sure about the video. The vehicle is not over the white line so if I was who he was driving towards I'd suck air in to make my vehicle a bit smaller & drive on. No posting of a video
 
my 2p on maths v math
It should be written with an 's' cos its a plural.
Mathematics is a collection of different 'disciplines'

Not sure about the video. The vehicle is not over the white line so if I was who he was driving towards I'd suck air in to make my vehicle a bit smaller & drive on. No posting of a video
Usually I do, but its becoming a regular occurrence now, the last time I had to pull over sharply to avoid a mirror slap was another motorhomer, so getting a bit tired of it now. As I said I do believe a lot of motorhomers are driving their moho like a car.......
 
I’m tempted to do IAM to get cheaper insurance
I passed the IAM test about 30 years ago. I found that yes, you could get reduced insurance, but only from more expensive companies so great benefit. I resigned membership about 5 years ago when I noticed that my driving standards had occaisionally become below what I would define as IAM.
 
Is that really true? I would hope that most road users know what the different line markings mean.
Let’s put it this way I had to go on a drivers awareness course instead of 3 points , and that was asked by the instructor to the ‘ class ‘ he put road signs /markings on the display and I was the only one who put up the hand ?
 
Best is on the Mway 100 meters from exit slip, BMW, Audi, Range Rover etc suddenly charges across all lanes and goes over the solid lined triangle with hash lines inside

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3points if 'Plod' gets you....trouble is they are never there
Another junction which is prone to this is M3 south bound at Eastleigh ,where the split is for the M27 east and west bound if you are not familiar with that junction there are a lot of last minute deciders !!!!!
 
If you think that was a bit close I recommend you never try the Wild Atlantic Way in Ireland - my nearside mirrorguard is evidence of how many times I "dived" into the nearside hedge to avoid oncoming vehicles, including hired motorhomes of which there was a lot.
 
Another junction which is prone to this is M3 south bound at Eastleigh ,where the split is for the M27 east and west bound if you are not familiar with that junction there are a lot of last minute deciders !!!!!
I know that junction, I have even seen a Tesco lorry do it and he wasn’t even in the adjacent lane. I wonder if some drivers ever look at the overhead signs which tell them which lane to be in.
 
I passed the IAM test about 30 years ago. I found that yes, you could get reduced insurance, but only from more expensive companies so great benefit. I resigned membership about 5 years ago when I noticed that my driving standards had occaisionally become below what I would define as IAM.
I was the same. I got invited to join in 1985 when I did the army driving instructor course. (Class1down to car and tracked vehicle’s the lot really ) kept it going for about 10 years but I let it expire a few years later. No discounts I could use because I was to young to affect the insurance on Porsche and alike. I’m now well into porches and alike cars pushing my mid life crises on and on acording to mrs haggis. She thought getting a motorhome would slow me down. I was even considering putting a y frame on a first edition Porsche Boxster 😷
 
We have to deal with this all the time on the Devon lanes. It actually looked OK to me. Many is the Range Rover that's closer to the white line than that.

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If you think that was a bit close I recommend you never try the Wild Atlantic Way in Ireland - my nearside mirrorguard is evidence of how many times I "dived" into the nearside hedge to avoid oncoming vehicles, including hired motorhomes of which there was a lot.
Been there done that :LOL:Only a slight scuff down the passengers side of the van from the non cut foliage, most of the time I was driving on the cats eyes with the rear tyre (FIAT wide body chassis) to avoid said foliage and crumbling walls. I counted myself lucky with just that scuff ;) On return from Ireland every road looked like a motorway.....
 
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We have to deal with this all the time on the Devon lanes. It actually looked OK to me. Many is the Range Rover that's closer to the white line than that.
Range Rovers don't have mirrors on stalks, but now maybe the new hairdressers ones do.....
 
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Do you know if they will fit on mirror guards?
The fit perfectly around the moulded edge of the Ducato mirror but I imagine would fit on any surface that was that shape. They come off a flat piece of “Sticky back plastic” so are expensive for the bit you get but you pay for the shaping and idea !

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