Did I save your expensive moho mirror today?

[glenn2926]

My qualifications:
DSA ADI, IAM & ROSPA Gold.

So with those quals you should know that if the oncoming vehicle that is wholly on its own side of the road comes into contact with your vehicle then you must be on the wrong side of the road.

 

[icantremember]

C'mon you lot, it's Narfoook ... plenty of room to get a tractor through the gap between them!

 

[MC 55 FUN]

In my experience most will not slow down unless its absolutely necessary and usually late. As drivers of larger vehicles there is a requirement to be more responsible.

The video clearly shows the oncoming vehicle is on it's half / side of the road, although this isn't the point of the OP's post, the oncoming vehicles' off side mirror housing may well be protruding over the centre line as could the OP's mirror housing, therefore both of these protruding mirror housings could easily have clashed as has been posted on this site & elsewhere countless times.


Even taking into account that the oncoming driver had / has no idea of the meaning of the white line length, any responsible / safe / sensible driver would slow down as judging the gap when one's road speed is slower is much easier & leaves less room for error.

Less space = less pace.

 

[MR. FUSION]

The approaching vehicle is on its own side of the road so I can’t see a problem.

Its mirrors are not IMHO, that does seem to be an increasing issue with some motorhomers though, who drive their vans like cars not allowing for many factors, including mirror width (especially with full length ones) . Increasingly so as motorhoming has become more popular.

 

[phillipsheila]

I would have slowed down
My qualifications
mym irr org ots mas hed imn owv ery cau tio us

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[MR. FUSION]

The video clearly shows the oncoming vehicle is on it's half / side of the road, although this isn't the point of the OP's post, the oncoming vehicles' off side mirror housing may well be protruding over the centre line as could the OP's mirror housing, therefore both of these protruding mirror housings could easily have clashed as has been posted on this site & elsewhere countless times.


Even taking into account that the oncoming driver had / has no idea of the meaning of the white line length, any responsible / safe / sensible driver would slow down as judging the gap when one's road speed is slower is much easier & leaves less room for error.

Less space = less pace.

Yes, thank you MH55, that is my point, he has long mirrors as do I, looking at where the tyres are positioned and the white line is NOT taking into account how wide these mirrors make the vehicle, which appears to be an issue for some people.

 

[Charlie57]

Glad to see the self preservation instinct has not died completely

 

[MR. FUSION]

My q

I would have slowed down
My qualifications
mym irr org ots mas hed imn owv ery cau tio us

My qualifications, a genuine FIAT mirror costs £210 + if you fit it yourself, if you don't, well name a price......

 

[ChrisCross]

The gap look like only a couple of feet at the most, speed limit looks like national so any impact would be about 100mph+ thats a lot of trust to put in the other driver! personally I would have stopped can't hit anything when you are stopped!

Be aware if they hit you your No Cliam Bonus will not be affected but your basic premium WILL increase because you were involved in an accident! Not a lot of people know that.

Sorry but this is a common misconception, One I used to have too. A head on collision does not double the speed of impact. From the point of view of one of the vehicles it makes absolutely no difference whether it hits a Brick wall at 60 mph or another identical vehicle mass which was traveling at the same speed of 60mph in the opposite direction. The amount of force applied to the vehicle is the same in both situations. it is still the same impact force of a 60mph collision. Google it. The math and research is all online and very interesting.
Right about the skanking insurance rip-off though

 

[Jonny1953]

The amount of force applied to the vehicle is the same in both situations. it is still the same impact force of a 60mph collision. Google it. The math and research is all online and very interesting.

We're in the UK, it's "maths" not "math"

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[Charlie57]

Its mirrors are not IMHO, that does seem to be an increasing issue with some motorhomers though, who drive their vans like cars not allowing for many factors, including mirror width (especially with full length ones) . Increasingly so as motorhoming has become more popular.

Having passed a (very basic) test of ability in a small car aged 17, then years later getting in a 3+ton vehicle years later most having had no further instruction................

Who has read a Highway Code since they passed?

Years ago in the motoring section of the telegraph there used was an weekly article by a chap called Ripley (can't remember his first name) top half of the page would be a photo of the road ahead and the bottom half he would write about all the problems he could see and anticipate ahead it was a fascinating read. He does not write for them now and I don't buy the paper anymore.





Newtons cradle with motorhomes who said everything is on youtube!

 

[Jimbohorlicks]

That's why Techno has fitted shorter arm mirrors to his van, kissing mirrors happen, they are a pain in the proverbial but simple to replace, just inconvenient.

 

[phillipsheila]

opps

 

[phillipsheila]

opps again

 

[Gary217]

The wide mirrors was one of the reasons we only held onto our coachbuilt for 6 months and are now going back to a PVC. Having wing mirrors that take up three lanes of motorway (ok...an exaggeration but they are effing wide) is a pain and I got fed up with wincing and swerving into the hedge on narrow roads every time we passed an oncoming MoHo with similar mirrors, or a speeding delivery van wandering into the centre of the road (I think some van drivers do it deliberately to wind MoHo owners up!). On another facebook group related to our ex-van, it was a regular question...'where can i get replacement mirrors at a reasonable price...?'.
I'll keep the other reasons for selling and going back to a PVC for other posts, but they are nearly all related to the difficulty in accessing the remote sorts of places that we love.

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[MC 55 FUN]

Having passed a (very basic) test of ability in a small car aged 17, then years later getting in a 3+ton vehicle years later most having had no further instruction................

Who has read a Highway Code since they passed?

Years ago in the motoring section of the telegraph there used was an weekly article by a chap called Ripley (can't remember his first name) top half of the page would be a photo of the road ahead and the bottom half he would write about all the problems he could see and anticipate ahead it was a fascinating read. He does not write for them now and I don't buy the paper anymore.

Hazard perception i.i.r.c. , sadly a driving life skill that's not at all common.

 

[Ian Bosman]

I could have hidden in a pot hole up there as well, as he went past......

With a number of people hiring, not used to such wide vehicle I always take the line that I pull over if it looks to me they are going to be too close for comfort. I have also got these Milenco mirror covers which are white and have a reflective strip for night driving. Only time I have clouted them is mis-judging the passenger side in filling stations and toll booths.

 

[The general]

Top marks for knowing what the white lines mean

Short line with long gap: Lane marking or centre line, you can cross these (if safe)

Long line with short gap: Hazard warning you can cross BUT if anything goes wrong possible charge of driving without due care

Continuous line: Do not cross except in certain circumstances to pass a stationary vehicle/obstruction, you may also overtake a moving vehicle moving at 10 mph or less

Very few drivers know about the extended line

 

[glenn2926]

Very few drivers know about the extended line

Is that really true? I would hope that most road users know what the different line markings mean.

 

[Driventemple]

The backroad to beyond in Norfolk.

Nah, no grass down the centre...

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[Gellyneck]

Every safe / competent road user should know the meaning of the length of the central white line, it's scary that many do not.

Most BMW \ Audi \ etc drivers think they're like Scalectrix track markings!

 

[gus-lopez]

My qualifications:
DSA ADI, IAM & ROSPA Gold.

Just means you can pass exams not that you have any coomon sense.
Most magistrates I knew were like that.

Yes, thank you MH55, that is my point, he has long mirrors as do I, looking at where the tyres are positioned and the white line is NOT taking into account how wide these mirrors make the vehicle, which appears to be an issue for some people.

Just the same as the m/cyclists using the apex at high speed .Yes his tyres were well on his side of the road, unfortunately the rest of the bike & his body wasn't & nowhere for the oncoming vehicle to go.

 

[Pausim]

I agree that if you think there is a danger of impact it is sensible to slow down and pull over. However, before I condemn the other driver I would want to view it from his side. I didn’t get the impression he was going very fast. If the road markings have been laid down to the proper standard then each line should be 6m long and each gap 3m. By counting the lines and gaps and then putting a stopwatch on the video I estimate his speed was about 40MPH which in my opinion is not excessive.

 

[Puddleduck]

I would have slowed down
My qualifications
mym irr org ots mas hed imn owv ery cau tio us

I would have slowed down or stopped as well .....

Yes, thank you MH55, that is my point, he has long mirrors as do I, looking at where the tyres are positioned and the white line is NOT taking into account how wide these mirrors make the vehicle, which appears to be an issue for some people.

because mirrors and even body work extend beyond the wheelbase.

Very few drivers know about the extended line

When my Dad was still okay we had a massive argument about that ..... I was newly qualified driver and had to get my copy of "the code" to prove I was correct.

 

[Scotch mist]

When somebody is coming toward me too fast in a narrow road I actually move well onto their side of the road , this slows them down then we pass without incident, I think some people just don’t think so this action makes them reevaluate the width of the road

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[Riverbankannie]

We have had our first trip since I fitted “Van Ears”. I am convinced that they made a difference on some of the narrower roads we travelled on. Oncoming lorries and vans seemed to keep their distance a bit better.
Oops! My funster stick upside down

 

[Jim]

Oops! My funster stick upside down

That is an international distress signal. "Funster Out of Beer"

 

[MC 55 FUN]

We gave had our first trip since I fitted “Van Ears”. I am convinced that they made a difference on some of the narrower roads we travelled on. Oncoming lorries and vans seemed to keep their distance a bit better.
Oops! My funster stick upside down
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Nice idea, do they reflect light ? are they legal in green ?

 

[thebriars]

What disappoints me is that it appears neither of you gave a friendly wave as you went past. Much more important than the odd wing mirror.

 

[Charlie57]

Best is on the Mway 100 meters from exit slip, BMW, Audi, Range Rover etc suddenly charges across all lanes and goes over the solid lined triangle with hash lines inside



3points if 'Plod' gets you....trouble is they are never there

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