Date first registered date wrong - does it matter?

[BritAussie]

Slightly different I know but DVLA related. Our motorhome was registered new. When the V5 arrived I noted that the VIN was incorrect by one digit. The dealer had sent the correct details but DVLA had messed up. It took over 6 months to correct the mistake.

Not sure we can check that yet, but definitely will when we have the vehicle! Will see if it might be on order form

 

[BritAussie]

Correct also if you have not had the discussion with the dealer if it is a Fiat based MoHo and you wish to have extended warranty you have a limited time to purchase this, Also make sure the vehicle is registered with the manufacturer as sold otherwise your vehicle warranty does not start. This is exactly what happened with ours when new and spent a few days chasing around until getting it sorted with the Fiat Professional call centre who were brilliant.

They’ve not mentioned an extended warranty at all! Will look into that thanks as it is a Fiat.

 

[Coolcats]

I doubt it would be on Officer Dibbles database until it was registered which might still get him curious?

Officer dibble is connected to insurance databases along with dvla and others so I inferred it was dibbles it’s actually accessing the 3rd parties and can cross reference with others and will get dibble quite excited

 

[BritAussie]

We bought our’s from Brownhills. They agreed 31st of the month and so we went to pick it up then. Paid, got the keys went to drive off and saw that they had taxed it from the start of the month. Had to stay there that night but what confused me about it was that I felt both annoyed and grateful at the same time!

That would be something we’d live with - I guess we’ve got to be grateful my partner spotted it otherwise it would have been a 6 hour round journey with Collie in the back! Not to mention the need to take another day off work to go up again

 

[Coolcats]

They’ve not mentioned an extended warranty at all! Will look into that thanks as it is a Fiat.

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[SpeedyDux]

If officer dibble checks the database the vehicle will not be registered until the 9th and may cause the OP an issue as per dvla advise.

If the OP drives past an ANPR camera on 4th March I expect the MH will be flagged as unregistered / uninsured. A Traffic Officer might be sent to stop the MH and investigate. Worst case scenario is it will be seized. ANPR cameras are everywhere, especially on major roads.

 

[SpeedyDux]

They’ve not mentioned an extended warranty at all! Will look into that thanks as it is a Fiat.

Typical poor after-sales service. I wasn't told about the possibility of buying the extended Fiat Mopar warranty either. Whether it is value for money is a different matter but that's not for the supplying dealer to decide.

My experience with a car dealer was the other way round - they registered it in August, not 1st September as requested, presumably to hit their sales target for a volume rebate from the manufacturer. The customer is no longer King.

 

[Pausim]

They’ve not mentioned an extended warranty at all! Will look into that thanks as it is a Fiat.

The dealers who are also a Fiat Professional garages are better at remembering the extended warranty but those who are not often don’t bother to mention it. You have to buy the extended warranty from a Fiat Professional within a few days of first registration. If Webbs are not a Fiat Professional then you will need to find one if you want to buy the extension to 5 years. Chelston Motorhomes at Wellington are a Fiat Professional garage and I believe they are reasonably near to you, they might be able to help.

 

[Coolcats]

The dealers who are also a Fiat Professional garages are better at remembering the extended warranty but those who are not often don’t bother to mention it. You have to buy the extended warranty from a Fiat Professional within a few days of first registration. If Webbs are not a Fiat Professional then you will need to find one if you want to buy the extension to 5 years. Chelston Motorhomes at Wellington are a Fiat Professional garage and I believe they are reasonably near to you, they might be able to help.

Simon chainey at Adams Morey sorted me out (after speaking with Fiat) I’m in Essex and they are Southampton / Portsmouth revive first class service from them but pretty sure that others are as good it’s just I haven’t tried them.

 

[DavidG58]

I would be asking my insurers opinion, if it shows as taxed and the insurers don’t query the date, just get on and use it from the 4th

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[Spriddler]

Yes it's damned annoying and I understand your frustration but tbh I wouldn't stress over a delay of just 5 days.

 

[Minxy]

I would be asking my insurers opinion, if it shows as taxed and the insurers don’t query the date, just get on and use it from the 4th

Not a good idea especially if it has a prang etc as it won't have any insurance cover plus the high possibility of being caught during a 3 hour journey on an ANPR camera somewhere.

It doesn't matter whether it has insurance or tax as they won't be valid it if it used on the road before it's registered date thus not legal to do so ... the date of registration trumps everything else.

 

[Puddleduck]

Who knows? Guess I can only say it wasn’t us! Which doesn’t help us in any way after waiting specifically for the 22 plate - which I wish we had never done obviously as I couldn’t give 2 hoots about it myself!

I bought a personal plate for ours when it was new and it shows it's a bit older than in actually is but I don't give a hoot as if / when we sell we will retain the plate.

No, normally trade plates are for use by the business (dealer etc) only for testing, test driving before buying, delivery and on the businesses insurance. They would not be able to let you drive on trade plates.

Delivery The dealer will have to organise an employee to go with the van and then get back hone of course.

I wasn't told about the possibility of buying the extended Fiat Mopar warranty either. Whether it is value for money is a different matter but that's not for the supplying dealer to decide.

We got paperwork direct from Fiat about the extended warranty but 3 years was included in the purchase price of the new van so maybe that was the difference.

Luckily the cab part of the warranty has never been needed and the hab part has been niggles (apart from the water heater leak which was out of warranty but the fix still paid for by Adria - first rate company and service in our experience).

But we are seriously off topic now.

 

[Minxy]

Delivery The dealer will have to organise an employee to go with the van and then get back hone of course.

Even if it is delivered by the dealer if this is before 9th March the insurance may still be invalid ... a slim chance of something happening between 4th and 9th but as Haganap found this isn't a given.

 

[L' Hobo]

Even if it is delivered by the dealer if this is before 9th March the insurance may still be invalid ... a slim chance of something happening between 4th and 9th but as Haganap found this isn't a given.

and if delivered, it would have to be parked on private land and not the road.

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[ontheroadagain]

Simon chainey at Adams Morey sorted me out (after speaking with Fiat) I’m in Essex and they are Southampton / Portsmouth revive first class service from them but pretty sure that others are as good it’s just I haven’t tried them.

I also used Adams Morey for the extended warranty. (and I live in Northern Ireland). My local Fiat dealer didn’t know anything about it and Fiat in Italy told me to speak to them. The warranty is expensive but also includes European breakdown cover. You only have 14 days to take out the extended warranty.

 

[Minxy]

and if delivered, it would have to be parked on private land and not the road.

Yes.

 

[Driftwood8]

For 5 days, however annoying it is, trying to de-register and re-register is likely to open a bag of worms which could end up with an even longer delay. If you have off road parking you could get them to drive it to your house on trade plates but you could not take it on the road and your insurance company might or might not be accommodating.
Sometimes it is better just to accept that there has been a mistake and accept it gracefully. Alternatively you might be able to persuade your dealer to give you a free accessory such as a second battery for example.

 

[Driftwood8]

Accidentally duplicated post. I cannot find a delete button.

 

[BritAussie]

For 5 days, however annoying it is, trying to de-register and re-register is likely to open a bag of worms which could end up with an even longer delay. If you have off road parking you could get them to drive it to your house on trade plates but you could not take it on the road and your insurance company might or might not be accommodating.
Sometimes it is better just to accept that there has been a mistake and accept it gracefully. Alternatively you might be able to persuade your dealer to give you a free accessory such as a second battery for example.

I’m coming to that conclusion - the problem is my partner has taken day off especially on 4th and as he works on a farm no guarantee next week would be feasible and I have never driven a van that distance - and to complicate things it’s booked in at Vanbitz on Fri 11th for alarm etc so we’d have to collect on 9th or 10th. I’ll broach subject of them delivering it but doubt that would happen given where we are - and can’t say if be happy about them driving it anyway.

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[Minxy]

I’m coming to that conclusion - the problem is my partner has taken day off especially on 4th and as he works on a farm no guarantee next week would be feasible and I have never driven a van that distance - and to complicate things it’s booked in at Vanbitz on Fri 11th for alarm etc so we’d have to collect on 9th or 10th. I’ll broach subject of them delivering it but doubt that would happen given where we are - and can’t say if be happy about them driving it anyway.

Could you collect it say on 10th then go straight to Vanbitz rather than travelling home?

Alternatively I'm sure eddievanbitz and co would be able to change the date.

What I would NOT do is pay for it without inspecting it first regardless of whether you are collecting it or they are delivering it.

 

[VXman]

Mine turned out not to be registered at all on collection day. I wasn't aware until after. Took 6 weeks to sort it. DVLA or Dealer paperwork issue - not sure who but I have my suspicions.

Anyway, it was April 2021 opening up after lock downs and I wasn't going to let it ruin our plans. We did several trips away in that period. If I had been stopped by police I would have pleaded ignorance.

Anyway, personally I reckon you have a better chance of winning the lottery than getting stopped by the police in the UK (unless your are driving recklessly) . I rarely see one. I know a lot on here would disagree but I would just drive it. It's only 5 days.

 

[Otter Spotter]

Mine turned out not to be registered at all on collection day. I wasn't aware until after. Took 6 weeks to sort it. DVLA or Dealer paperwork issue - not sure who but I have my suspicions.

Anyway, it was April 2021 opening up after lock downs and I wasn't going to let it ruin our plans. We did several trips away in that period. If I had been stopped by police I would have pleaded ignorance.

Anyway, personally I reckon you have a better chance of winning the lottery than getting stopped by the police in the UK (unless your are driving recklessly) . I rarely see one. I know a lot on here would disagree but I would just drive it. It's only 5 days.

The problem would be with the increasing number of ANPR cameras, if the van went past one it woukd flag up as unregistered and the Police would warned about it moving about.

 

[The Wino]

Mine turned out not to be registered at all on collection day. I wasn't aware until after. Took 6 weeks to sort it. DVLA or Dealer paperwork issue - not sure who but I have my suspicions.

Anyway, it was April 2021 opening up after lock downs and I wasn't going to let it ruin our plans. We did several trips away in that period. If I had been stopped by police I would have pleaded ignorance.

Anyway, personally I reckon you have a better chance of winning the lottery than getting stopped by the police in the UK (unless your are driving recklessly) . I rarely see one. I know a lot on here would disagree but I would just drive it. It's only 5 days.

It's only 5 days if you don't drive it too!. I think it would spoil it for me worrying that I might get caught I would also want to go away not just drive a few miles locally. That then raises the possibility of anpr cameras not just the plod

 

[ramsthom]

They’ve not mentioned an extended warranty at all! Will look into that thanks as it is a Fiat.

You have 14 days from 1st registration to take out the Fiat extended warranty. Cost is around £850 for a further 3 years.

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[VXman]

It's only 5 days if you don't drive it too!. I think it would spoil it for me worrying that I might get caught I would also want to go away not just drive a few miles locally. That then raises the possibility of anpr cameras not just the plod

I think the experience of driving my car for 6 months without an MOT (by accident!) has made me rather blase about being caught out. I think the number of drivers on the road getting away without being insured or taxed is quite substantial.

 

[The Wino]

I think the experience of driving my car for 6 months without an MOT (by accident!) has made me rather blase about being caught out. I think the number of drivers on the road getting away without being insured or taxed is quite substantial.

I've forgotten the mot too in the past and got away with it. But once I realised I didn't drive until the mot appointment. There a big difference between blissful ignorance and knowingly trying it on and a big difference in how peed off I'd be if I happened to be unlucky.

 

[BritAussie]

Yes it's damned annoying and I understand your frustration but tbh I wouldn't stress over a delay of just 5 days.

It’s the knock on effect as we are booked in with Vanbitz inn11th so have to collect 9th or 10th so it’s more days off work. If dealer was closer it wouldn’t be such an issue

Could you collect it say on 10th then go straight to Vanbitz rather than travelling home?

Alternatively I'm sure eddievanbitz and co would be able to change the date.

What I would NOT do is pay for it without inspecting it first regardless of whether you are collecting it or they are delivering it.

thats what I’m thinking if it works for my partner. I’d then stop on my own for the night at Vanbitz as the other issue is we need to get our neurotic border collie used to the van - and thought we’d have a week to do that! - so no way we can expect him to settle in it overnight same day as doing a 6 hr return journey! So I’m thinking my partner will take him home and then come back the next afternoon for the handover. We could move date if needs be but would prefer not to as obviously insurance won’t fully cover us until the alarm etc fitted.

 

[denisejoe]

Not sure what you mean? That they’d possibly put dodgy diesel in? It’s Webbs of Reading we are dealing with so would hope not! However we are based in Dulverton so maybe they are known as being not great?

Not that great when we got our van home put it on electric next day checked electrics they had disconnect the solar panel but batteries were at 16.5v phoned them and spoke to workshop manager who said that was all right and it was probably the solar panel doing it until I explained what they had done and not done ended up with a pair of new batteries and new charger to put in van the had not done any type of service or inspection on the van

 

[gus-lopez]

They’ve not mentioned an extended warranty at all! Will look into that thanks as it is a Fiat.

What he said .you only have 15 days.

and can’t say if be happy about them driving it anyway.

Neither would I. Transported only.

The problem would be with the increasing number of ANPR cameras, if the van went past one it woukd flag up as unregistered and the Police would warned about it moving about.

My nephew had a service and mot in September 2014. Lives near Essex police interceptor base. Drove all over Essex and Kent until January when he came here. In mid april he returned to Essex. Went online at end of April to tax from May to be told " vehicle has no mot " . Garage had failed to put the mot on the system. He and his wife must have passed anpr cameras about 5000 times. Nothing so I wouldn't think much yo worry about. You would just have to be unlucky.

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