Date first registered date wrong - does it matter?

[Kozikot]

Not really true. If my bike isn’t registered on the 1st then I cannot use it on the road on the 1st. It also cannot be taxed until it is registered. The OPs vehicle whilst being registered on the 9th will be taxed from the 1st but it cannot be taxed until it is registered. Therefore they will lose 8 days of tax.

So you'd advice him to tax it from the 01/04 then, and wait another 22 days ? either way, if its registered on the 1st or 9th of March, if he wants to use it the tax will be from the 1st March...Guessing its got Ape, as DVLA have read the 1 as a 9, had it loads of times on the 500+ registrations I've done with DVLA going back donkeys, Including over 50 Bikes...Had a Camper come back as a Yinxiang Motorbike...

 

[Rapido925M]

I’m guessing you want a tank full of diesel: be careful what you ask for!

Gordon

 

[Lenny HB]

I wouldn't try getting changed as it will out of the norm for DVLA which means it will get shunted to one side for weeks.

 

[glenn2926]

So you'd advice him to tax it from the 01/04 then, and wait another 22 days ? either way, if its registered on the 1st or 9th of March, if he wants to use it the tax will be from the 1st March...Guessing its got Ape, as DVLA have read the 1 as a 9, had it loads of times on the 500+ registrations I've done with DVLA going back donkeys, Including over 50 Bikes...Had a Camper come back as a Yinxiang Motorbike...

No I wouldn’t advise that, just accept that he loses 8 days tax. I don’t think borrowing trade plates will be an option. Unless the OP can persuade the dealer to deliver it using trade plates.

 

[stevewagner]

Could that be an option - ie dealer let’s us use them and send them back after 9th? The DVLA lady suggested they maybe able to change the date but the person I spoke to at dealer just now said they aren’t in till Monday either. I’m absolutely fuming - why the hell did they not put 1/3 automatically?! And we have ALWAYS been picking it up on the 4th! but suspect that would cause problems with insurance?

You can’t use trade plates for leisure purposes

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[stevewagner]

Thanks everyone - I’ll just have to wait till Monday to speak to the dealer - hopefully they can de register and re register but not sure how long that will take. I just don’t know why they didn’t register it for 1/3! I’m more than happy to have taxed it for then if needs be - no problem at all! Obviously some one has cocked up at the dealer - and I can be certain that the chap I’m dealing with won’t enjoy our conversation first thing Monday morning!!. Worst case scenario we have to take a day off work to collect on the 9th as we’ve got it booked into Vanbitz in the 11th. And they’ll be putting a full tank of petrol in it at the very least!

Perhaps DVLA made the mistake

 

[sonar]

If I taxed my van today the 26 th of Feb
the tax would automatically be applied from the 1 st of the month so I would have lost over three weeks of tax..

If i tax it online on the 1 st march it starts the first of march.

so if i tax online on the 9 march 2022 the tax will be automatically be applied from the 1 st of march.. 2022.

 

[sonar]

If you rereg the Date there will most likely be an additional £400. Registration fee to pay.
that’s what is added to new cars ect. Registration and number plates.

 

[BritAussie]

I’m guessing you want a tank full of diesel: be careful what you ask for!

Gordon

Not sure what you mean? That they’d possibly put dodgy diesel in? It’s Webbs of Reading we are dealing with so would hope not! However we are based in Dulverton so maybe they are known as being not great?

 

[BritAussie]

I wouldn’t rely on what the dealer says, he might want to cover up the mistake. The DVLA is the authority and at least one Funster has been pulled over for driving before registration. When I picked up my motorhome the dealer would not let me drive it off his forecourt until the registration came through the next day.

Have you checked the online details match the documents you have received? The online records are what matter to the Police and ANPR systems.

I’ve just checked the tax status online and it only says March 2022 for registered date - no date - tho it does say it’s taxed? I’m confused about what it all means tbh. Never had this problem buying a new car!!

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[BritAussie]

If you rereg the Date there will most likely be an additional £400. Registration fee to pay.
that’s what is added to new cars ect. Registration and number plates.

Won’t be doing that then!!

 

[BritAussie]

Perhaps DVLA made the mistake

Who knows? Guess I can only say it wasn’t us! Which doesn’t help us in any way after waiting specifically for the 22 plate - which I wish we had never done obviously as I couldn’t give 2 hoots about it myself!

 

[Pausim]

I’ve just checked the tax status online and it only says March 2022 for registered date - no date - tho it does say it’s taxed? I’m confused about what it all means tbh. Never had this problem buying a new car!!

Sorry, I thought it would give the full date of registration. You will have to go by the date on the documents.

 

[Minxy]

I’ve just checked the tax status online and it only says March 2022 for registered date - no date - tho it does say it’s taxed? I’m confused about what it all means tbh. Never had this problem buying a new car!!

You can't register it without paying tax so that'll be why it shows as taxed from March 2022. What you need to clarify is if the issue was down to the dealer or DVLA, it could well be that the dealer put it down as 1/3/22 or 4/3/22 but that the 1 or 4 were mistaken for a 9.

Obviously some one has cocked up at the dealer - and I can be certain that the chap I’m dealing with won’t enjoy our conversation first thing Monday morning!!.

Don't go 'off on one' with the dealer as you need them to contact the DVLA and sort it out regardless of who is at fault so getting their back up when it may not be their doing isn't a good idea.

 

[Arnside037]

I do hope the dealers computer system hasn't got a new keyboard or updated OS and that the date format is in the US format, ie month, day, year. The first days of the first few months are always problematical. It happened numerous times in my working career.

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[Otter Spotter]

Could that be an option - ie dealer let’s us use them and send them back after 9th? The DVLA lady suggested they maybe able to change the date but the person I spoke to at dealer just now said they aren’t in till Monday either. I’m absolutely fuming - why the hell did they not put 1/3 automatically?! And we have ALWAYS been picking it up on the 4th! but suspect that would cause problems with insurance?

No, normally trade plates are for use by the business (dealer etc) only for testing, test driving before buying, delivery and on the businesses insurance. They would not be able to let you drive on trade plates.

 

[Rapido925M]

. And they’ll be putting a full tank of petrol in it at the very least!

 

[The Wino]

Very annoying. I wonder if part of the delay could be the dealer actually getting ownership of the MH to sell it on I'm not sure how they finance their stock. I certainly wouldn't pay the balance until the day I could drive it away there have been problems in the past with dealers who have gone bust ( very unlikely) with vehicles owned by other people on the premises.

 

[BritAussie]

Very annoying. I wonder if part of the delay could be the dealer actually getting ownership of the MH to sell it on I'm not sure how they finance their stock. I certainly wouldn't pay the balance until the day I could drive it away there have been problems in the past with dealers who have gone bust ( very unlikely) with vehicles owned by other people on the premises.

It’s a brand new van which we’ve seen and paid deposit for in mid- Jan. my partner wanted the new plate - I couldn’t care less about that but agreed stupidly. Now another week to wait it seems!

 

[Kozikot]

It’s a brand new van which we’ve seen and paid deposit for in mid- Jan. my partner wanted the new plate - I couldn’t care less about that but agreed stupidly. Now another week to wait it seems!

At least all the Jones's in Dulverton will be Impressed...

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[Conal]

We bought our’s from Brownhills. They agreed 31st of the month and so we went to pick it up then. Paid, got the keys went to drive off and saw that they had taxed it from the start of the month. Had to stay there that night but what confused me about it was that I felt both annoyed and grateful at the same time!

 

[DelMar]

Does it matter, I was under the impression the tax date if taxed in a particular month, starts from the 1st day of that month, not the 9th. I suppose the dealer date, is when he thinks you will be picking up the MH. Speak to them.

 

[Pausim]

The issue is not about when the RFL tax runs from or to but about the date the vehicle is registered and becomes legal to use on the road. In the overall cost of buying a new vehicle a few days tax is a very minor cost. Driving it illegally might have all sorts of ramifications, for instance will it be fully insured for road use? Some dealers still talk about a 2 week period of grace but this was dropped many years ago.

 

[Coolcats]

not according to the DVLA who I’ve just spoken to - apparently it can’t be driven Until 9th March! And of course the dealer we dealt with isn’t working today

Correct also if you have not had the discussion with the dealer if it is a Fiat based MoHo and you wish to have extended warranty you have a limited time to purchase this, Also make sure the vehicle is registered with the manufacturer as sold otherwise your vehicle warranty does not start. This is exactly what happened with ours when new and spent a few days chasing around until getting it sorted with the Fiat Professional call centre who were brilliant.

 

[Coolcats]

Does it matter, I was under the impression the tax date if taxed in a particular month, starts from the 1st day of that month, not the 9th. I suppose the dealer date, is when he thinks you will be picking up the MH. Speak to them.

If officer dibble checks the database the vehicle will not be registered until the 9th and may cause the OP an issue as per dvla advise.

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[BritAussie]

Does it matter, I was under the impression the tax date if taxed in a particular month, starts from the 1st day of that month, not the 9th. I suppose the dealer date, is when he thinks you will be picking up the MH. Speak to them.

yes it matters - the vehicle registration date is different to the road tax - you can’t tax the vehicle till it’s legally registered - which according to the documents is 9th March. The dealer has always known we were picking it up on 4th March.

 

[Coolcats]

Not really true. If my bike isn’t registered on the 1st then I cannot use it on the road on the 1st. It also cannot be taxed until it is registered. The OPs vehicle whilst being registered on the 9th will be taxed from the 1st but it cannot be taxed until it is registered. Therefore they will lose 8 days of tax.

Peanuts in the scheam of things if I take my vehicle off the road on say the 8th I would loose the rest of the months tax but get the remaining months back.

 

[L' Hobo]

If officer dibble checks the database the vehicle will not be registered until the 9th and may cause the OP an issue as per dvla advise.

I doubt it would be on Officer Dibbles database until it was registered which might still get him curious?

 

[Bognor Saint]

Slightly different I know but DVLA related. Our motorhome was registered new. When the V5 arrived I noted that the VIN was incorrect by one digit. The dealer had sent the correct details but DVLA had messed up. It took over 6 months to correct the mistake.

 

[BritAussie]

The issue is not about when the RFL tax runs from or to but about the date the vehicle is registered and becomes legal to use on the road. In the overall cost of buying a new vehicle a few days tax is a very minor cost. Driving it illegally might have all sorts of ramifications, for instance will it be fully insured for road use? Some dealers still talk about a 2 week period of grace but this was dropped many years ago.

There is no way we’ll drive it illegally - we’ve got a 3 hour journey just to get home so no way worth the risk. I would have been happy to pay whatever from 1/3 and assumed that is what would happen - I just can’t believe the cock up the dealer / DVLA / someone has made when we have always had 4th March as our collection date.

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