You would still have the untampered original.
Dash cam footage
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You would still have the untampered original.
Surely when Police are presented with clear evidence and they decide not to do anything, then that in itself should be a criminal offence?
I know the CPS are wrong uns, but the case has to be presented to them by the Police, so what gives the old bill the right to be judge and jury in the first instance.
No point complaining to professional standards or the IPCC cause they're just ex-coppers investigating coppers.
Be different if you were a freemason of course, they'd have the swat team outside that idiots door in a flash, but if hes a mason, forget it!
I know the CPS are wrong uns, but the case has to be presented to them by the Police, so what gives the old bill the right to be judge and jury in the first instance.
No point complaining to professional standards or the IPCC cause they're just ex-coppers investigating coppers.
Be different if you were a freemason of course, they'd have the swat team outside that idiots door in a flash, but if hes a mason, forget it!
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Last year I posted images of a Child Car Seat falling off the roof of an oncoming vehicle and striking the car I was driving. Unfortunately, it was my daughter's car, that I had borrowed for the day, and I only had 3rd party insurance. The best quote I could get for the repairs was £750.
I reported it to the police and submitted the Dashcam footage, but recently received a letter to say that they have been unable to identify the driver, and are not going to investigate any further.
My daughter subsequently traded in her car but the dealer cut £500 from his offer when he saw the damage, and I now owe that much to her.
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I reported it to the police and submitted the Dashcam footage, but recently received a letter to say that they have been unable to identify the driver, and are not going to investigate any further.
My daughter subsequently traded in her car but the dealer cut £500 from his offer when he saw the damage, and I now owe that much to her.
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At the very least, the Transit driver has failed to stop/report a road accident. To report this you do not need evidence of phone use, or careless driving.
Road Traffic Act 1988, s.170(4)
The sentencing guidelines are here (a fine and 5-6 points)
www.sentencingcouncil.org.uk
Go back to the Police, report the crime and demand they take a statement (they will need the original recording, and may keep it as evidence)
As there was “contact” and failure to stop, the case is fairly straight forwards.
Road Traffic Act 1988, s.170(4)
The sentencing guidelines are here (a fine and 5-6 points)
Fail to stop/report road accident (Revised 2017) – Sentencing
www.sentencingcouncil.org.uk
Go back to the Police, report the crime and demand they take a statement (they will need the original recording, and may keep it as evidence)
As there was “contact” and failure to stop, the case is fairly straight forwards.
Emmit
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Yes you would BUT (big but) when it is submitted and entered into evidence one has to put that evidence in as 'Original' and the submitter has to supply an accompanying Criminal Justice Act Statement to state that it is untouched and original.
If the CPS wish for it to be enhanced in any way then that's alright because THEY have the original should the Court wish to see it.
This is the minutiae of evidence gathering that goes unnoticed.
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Steve and Denise
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As the incident happened in Peterbough and not in Lincolnshire I had to contact Cambridgeshire police they will not take any report on the phone,
But send you to a website and you fill in a form 20 minutes then they decide if a crime has been committed
But send you to a website and you fill in a form 20 minutes then they decide if a crime has been committed
A lot of work for the understaffed police, and what would be the result? He won't be able to pay and is unlikely to have insurance, put him away and we all pay for his room and board.
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Steve and Denise
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They would be very keen if you had no car tax, only after easy money
I understand it’s not the officers them selves but the shite system their in.
I understand it’s not the officers them selves but the shite system their in.
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I understand that Police (certainly in Wiltshire - not sure about other areas) aren't persuing and prosecuting any shoplifting crimes below £200
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Come on folks, I know your annoyed with the police here but, try being the guy who had very little option other than fobbing you off, I certainly wouldn't like to be the person telling the public that they can't help.
These officers certainly didn't join up only to do nothing about crime.
The cuts to our thin blue line is the issue here & the proof is right there in front of us.
I agree with the forum members who've suggested taking this incident further up the chain of command.
These officers certainly didn't join up only to do nothing about crime.
The cuts to our thin blue line is the issue here & the proof is right there in front of us.
I agree with the forum members who've suggested taking this incident further up the chain of command.
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But ittis . If they themselves do not continually complain to there superiors about doing nothing then they are complicit.
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Steve and Denise
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I go to Eye most days as I currently have a house undergoing a massive refurb in the village so won’t hurt to keep a look out.
Can I clarify please?
Are you saying the police have refused to investigate your complaint? Or have they asked you to send them the video as stage one of a process? Or have they reviewed the video you sent them and they are saying insufficient evidence to progress......appears a straightforward case of careless driving, failing to stop etc. Best evidence is always from direct eye witness accounts and not cctv footage. Even if cctv does not show everything you can speak to, if there are two witnesses speaking to something there should be sufficient evidence to progress an enquiry?
Are you saying the police have refused to investigate your complaint? Or have they asked you to send them the video as stage one of a process? Or have they reviewed the video you sent them and they are saying insufficient evidence to progress......appears a straightforward case of careless driving, failing to stop etc. Best evidence is always from direct eye witness accounts and not cctv footage. Even if cctv does not show everything you can speak to, if there are two witnesses speaking to something there should be sufficient evidence to progress an enquiry?
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Writ to the Police commissioner for you area. Tell him how discussed you are and await his reply. I had a similar situation once. I was surprised how quickly the police then started running around to sort it out.
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Send the "boys" round with a lump hammer?. Can`t make phone calls (or drive) with broken hands?. 
Dead right. March up to plice HQ and demand to see the CC and ask why his officers are not doing their job.
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Steve and Denise
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After I phoned the police they told me to fill in a form on their website I have done this but they have not contacted me as yet, I will not hold my breath
If you contact DVLA and tell them your vehicle was damaged in an accident and the other person did not stop you can obtain the other owners details for about £3.00. I did this when my car was hit in an airport carpark and the person did not stop but a kind witness left a note on my screen with the cars reg no.
I contacted DVLA and told them what happened i paid about £3.00 and they sent me the owners registered address so i could persue them for damages caused.
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I contacted DVLA and told them what happened i paid about £3.00 and they sent me the owners registered address so i could persue them for damages caused.
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Sorry to hear of the grief, I hope you ae all ok. When all else fails, there are a couple of lads in Plains Farm....
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Steve and Denise
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The damage is minimal my gripe is he has committed 3 offences and the police do not seem to be slightly interested, even though we have video of the whole incident.If you contact DVLA and tell them your vehicle was damaged in an accident and the other person did not stop you can obtain the other owners details for about £3.00. I did this when my car was hit in an airport carpark and the person did not stop but a kind witness left a note on my screen with the cars reg no.
I contacted DVLA and told them what happened i paid about £3.00 and they sent me the owners registered address so i could persue them for damages caused.
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Request details about a vehicle's registered keeper: bulk data, anonymised data, mileage data requests, other information requests
As for getting the owners details see post 42 ?
The police have to prove who was driving at the time beyond reasonable doubt. Not that easy to do, you cannot assume the owner was driving. Frustrating, but that's life.
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Steve and Denise
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If your car is flashed by a speed camera the owner is the first one who is contacted and it is up to the owner to supply the name of the person driving the car at that time, or the owner will be held responsible and prosecuted but then again that is money for the gravy train
The owner would not be prosecuted for speeding. They are prosecuted for failing to furnish information as to the identity of the driver. The exact same offence would apply should the owner of the van fail or refuse to give details in your case, but the police first need to serve him or her with the request for information.
As you have reported the incident they may have done that and they have to wait a specific time for a response. That may be where your report is at now, but if I were you I would start making waves to establish what exactly is happening.
Unfortunately these days it may takes several days for your online report to be transcribed into the correct document, passed on for enquires to be made and for letters to be generated. The units that deal with these enquiries are as under-resourced and overburdened as everyone else, and it may take several months to reach a conclusion, but push for confirmation that they have received and are dealing with it, then you can formulate any further response from that point.
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Steve and Denise
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Well finally got a reply from the collisions unit only took 6 months and it says not enough evidence, what a load of old bollocks.
Remember if you buy a dash cam it is of no use in any accident
Remember if you buy a dash cam it is of no use in any accident
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I'm not in the least surprised.
On my Sussex Police website of reported crimes around 60% of them simply say: 'Closed. Insufficient evidence'.
The truth of the matter is that they don't have the resource to investigate or follow them up.
As an aside, a copper acquaintance said that he can easily spend a hundred or very many more hours ploughing through a suspect's mobile phone data, Twitter and Faecesbook posts, tablet, bank accounts and home P.C.
On my Sussex Police website of reported crimes around 60% of them simply say: 'Closed. Insufficient evidence'.
The truth of the matter is that they don't have the resource to investigate or follow them up.
As an aside, a copper acquaintance said that he can easily spend a hundred or very many more hours ploughing through a suspect's mobile phone data, Twitter and Faecesbook posts, tablet, bank accounts and home P.C.
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I had dash cam, from a passing car, of a car going through my house fence and hitting the house. Police showed no interest.
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We were run off the M5 onto the hard shoulder by a Sainsbury’s lorry a couple of weeks ago. Sent the footage to police who responded that they had taken action. I imagine they issued a warning and also let employers know. Satisfied with that as we were lucky in having room on the hard shoulder to move into so no physical damage done.
I would not be happy with the outcome you have had.
I would not be happy with the outcome you have had.
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My daughter had her car stolen from her drive in London. A few weeks later the Midlands police caught the car and arrested the occupants. They held them overnight in the cells, but the Met police refused to prosecute and the scroats were released next day Scott free.
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Passing the buck. Is a national sport among many organisations these days. No one takes responsibility for anything let alone their own actions.
Hence why the CV infections are up too. IMV.
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