damp check

[Chainwheel2]

Has anyone been told damp checks are only being carried out on the floor at the habitation service nowhere else .?

 

[Lavender1]

Has anyone been told damp checks are only being carried out on the floor at the habitation service nowhere else .?

I queried my last two damp checks on habitation service, one on a motorhome and one on a Basecamp. Both reports showed no figures recorded. Was informed that “readings are no longer recorded if they are between 0-15% as no cause for concern”. Probably a let out if you come back later with a higher reading showing damp somewhere.
5 years ago I ordered a new Unicorn caravan. Was given the keys to inspect in compound. Why did I take damp meter with me for a new van? It was damp. Told Salesman, gave a the keys for another, that registered damp. Gave me keys for a third van, the last one. That was damp. The Manager appeared with his supa dupa damp meter (ours was just for logs). His readings were worse than ours! Those three vans would almost certainly have been sold to an unsuspecting customer who did not have a damp meter with them.
Scary.

 

[B-JandBella]

I wonder if a good damp detector is needed for us to check.

Just before buying our MH, I bought one of these. Very efficient and does the job a treat.
Asked the seller if it was okay to check for damp spots and they were fine about it.
It will of course, pick up some damp due to humidity in the air, but very impressed with it.

UK LCD Digital Wood Moisture Meter Tester For Firewood Paper Humidity Measuring
£5.83

 

[B-JandBella]

I bet the cost of the habitation check has not gone down

I'v bought a gas detection device for gas leaks and a damp detector device.
Whats the point in paying hundreds of pounds for someone to tell you what
you can find out for yourself!!!!

After time, you know your van.....

 

[christineleong]

Hi everyone, I have a Hymer with an aluminium outer and inner shell, just wondered how these are damp checked

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[Gary S]

Not really. I had a major damp repair done under warranty. Also had a fridge replaced. Various other more minor nigglesl this was within the first 2 years of a brand new van.

Chainwheel2 does Benimar have any specific requirements for their damp warranty? How long is their damp warranty for?

My experience is with my Burstner purchased from new in 2021. Habitation warranty is very separate from the damp warranty. Habitation warranty is only 2 years. Damp is 10 years but requires a detailed damp report and 30 - 40 readings taken from all over the van. The only area not checked is the floor due to the construction of it. The report must be done by a Burstner dealer annually (at customers cost) and recorded on the Burstner database.

I recently viewed a Burstner Lyseo at Marquis and was shown a pile of paperwork from the original owner, which included 2 x damp check certificates from Southdowns, but the most recent one expired in August 2024.

Knowing how specific Burstner are about the annual damp check, I queried it with Marquis and they advised that any damp issues would be resolved, either with them, or Burstner, but not to worry!

Marquis's 3 year warranty has a maximum payout of £1,000 in the first 2 years for water ingress or delamination, reducing to £500 in year 3.

Knowing this, I pushed the point with the sales guy and asked if the Burstner annual check had been completed to maintain the integrity of the damp warranty and he told me yes. I asked whether the certificate and report were available and he rather unconvincingly said, 'it has all been completed internally and not to worry'.

Needless to say, I walked away!

 

[VXman]

I recently viewed a Burstner Lyseo at Marquis and was shown a pile of paperwork from the original owner, which included 2 x damp check certificates from Southdowns, but the most recent one expired in August 2024.

Knowing how specific Burstner are about the annual damp check, I queried it with Marquis and they advised that any damp issues would be resolved, either with them, or Burstner, but not to worry!

Marquis's 3 year warranty has a maximum payout of £1,000 in the first 2 years for water ingress or delamination, reducing to £500 in year 3.

Knowing this, I pushed the point with the sales guy and asked if the Burstner annual check had been completed to maintain the integrity of the damp warranty and he told me yes. I asked whether the certificate and report were available and he rather unconvincingly said, 'it has all been completed internally and not to worry'.

Needless to say, I walked away!

Salesman flannel. You did right to walk away.

 

[VXman]

Hi everyone, I have a Hymer with an aluminium outer and inner shell, just wondered how these are damp checked

Non invasive damp meter. If something suspicious arises they may take a more invasive reading using some thin prongs.

 

[bigshuggy]

I think Carthago is just a visual check all round now, they don't even put a hose on it anymore.

Carthago factory does a full water heavy duty spray test on their vans as part of pdi. They still want annual habitation checks including damp report for their 7 year water ingress warranty.

 

[BouncyBoatFolk]

Hi,
I have just had my 1st Hab check carried out £456
With the paperwork there is a plan showing 80 damp check readings...
I think expensive but needed to keep the guarantee.

KO

The water ingress check can be hived off as a separate check in order to retain the ingress warranty. The hab check is then optional depending on whether you feel it's a good policy to have that as well, personally I don't have the hab check, and we're now out of warranty period for the ingress check.
Mike.

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[MichaelT]

Carthago factory does a full water heavy duty spray test on their vans as part of pdi. They still want annual habitation checks including damp report for their 7 year water ingress warranty.

You only need damp inspection

 

[pandas]

I'v bought a gas detection device for gas leaks and a damp detector device.
Whats the point in paying hundreds of pounds for someone to tell you what
you can find out for yourself!!!!

After time, you know your van.....

warranty possibly.

 

[Lenny HB]

Please see this from the internet



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That is BS just because it has grp external walls it still need a damp check.

I think Carthago is just a visual check all round now, they don't even put a hose on it anymore.

That is because the internal wall are aluminium so can't be checked.

Carthago factory does a full water heavy duty spray test on their vans as part of pdi. They still want annual habitation checks including damp report for their 7 year water ingress warranty.

Carthago do not require a habitation check just a damp check to keep the 10 year water ingress warranty.

 

[Chainwheel2]

My husband worked in the aerospace industry for 40 odd years and for glass reinforced plastic the strength of the resin is potentially compromised by water ingress. Furthermore, a damp metre reading is a record and doesn't depend on if somebody can't be bothered to look.

 

[Crazy Grandad]

Habitation 2 years water ingress 5 years. But it says we have to have yearly checks or it's not valid. We are going to write to Benimar , and copy to Marquis , asking Benimar how we follow the warranty instructions when their authorised dealer only checks the floor!!!
Does it mean that damp can only appear on the floor? Perhaps gravity is expected to reverse so it rains upwards?

Hi,
I would appreciate if you can keep me informed on the outcome with Benimar & Marquis on what they say about a proper check for damp. I have a Benimar under warranty and think just checking the floor is not good enough, if the MoHo is not sealed properly then water will get in. Look forward to the outcome it's just another cop out by the Dealer, good luck.

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[Chainwheel2]

We will keep you informed.

 

[Tony50]

I had a habitation check which included a damp check, by Simpsons of Great Yarmouth vehicle not supplied by them they found damp repaired it under warranty . Great Service !

 

[Sdrawde]

I queried my last two damp checks on habitation service, one on a motorhome and one on a Basecamp. Both reports showed no figures recorded. Was informed that “readings are no longer recorded if they are between 0-15% as no cause for concern”. Probably a let out if you come back later with a higher reading showing damp somewhere.
5 years ago I ordered a new Unicorn caravan. Was given the keys to inspect in compound. Why did I take damp meter with me for a new van? It was damp. Told Salesman, gave a the keys for another, that registered damp. Gave me keys for a third van, the last one. That was damp. The Manager appeared with his supa dupa damp meter (ours was just for logs). His readings were worse than ours! Those three vans would almost certainly have been sold to an unsuspecting customer who did not have a damp meter with them.
Scary.

Are you able to name the manufacturer?

 

[Chainwheel2]

I had a habitation check which included a damp check, by Simpsons of Great Yarmouth vehicle not supplied by them they found damp repaired it under warranty. Great Service .That is we should all be getting from dealers .

 

[Chainwheel2]

Sorry I put my reply in the wrong bit.....l will put my glasses on

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[ForeignShaws]

Please see this from the internet



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I see that's Marquis.
In my experience they'll do anything to avoid responsibility.
If they do find damp you'll expect them to do something about it, and then where would they be?
Best for them not to look and hope you don't notice.

 

[Chainwheel2]

It should not be too much to ask to be treated with fairness and honesty even after we have parted with our not insignificant amounts of money .

 

[MichaelT]

It should not be too much to ask to be treated with fairness and honesty even after we have parted with our not insignificant amounts of money .

But you are, they've told you only the floor needs checking as the rest is aluminium (i think), as I said Carthago is just visual check as there's no wood to check the damp on.

 

[Tony50]

But you are, they've told you only the floor needs checking as the rest is aluminium (i think), as I said Carthago is just visual check as there's no wood to check the damp on.

" O" I wouldn't like not having a full hab check.

 

[MichaelT]

" O" I wouldn't like not having a full hab check.

Hab or damp?

If damp can you tell me how you check if aluminium is damp?

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[Tony50]

Hab or damp?

If damp can you tell me how you check if aluminium is damp?

Sorry Damp Check, well, I had a Motorhome and had damp around the rear wheel arches where sealed between body wall and arch, and damp in garage which was door seals. Wherever it gets , whether alloy or woodless I don't want to encourage damp I my motorhome, plus we had a Static caravan for a short time kept it heated and vented, still had damp/ mould on suitcase after couple of weeks.

 

[MichaelT]

Sorry Damp Check, well, I had a Motorhome and had damp around the rear wheel arches where sealed between body wall and arch, and damp in garage which was door seals. Wherever it gets , whether alloy or woodless I don't want to encourage damp I my motorhome, plus we had a Static caravan for a short time kept it heated and vented, still had damp/ mould on suitcase after couple of weeks.

I guess your issues were where you had wood, if it's aluminium you can't check with a meter. And with alloy you don't get any rot, just water.

 

[Tony50]

I guess your issues were where you had wood, if it's aluminium you can't check with a meter. And with alloy you don't get any rot, just water.

Damp or water not bgood

 

[Chainwheel2]

But you are, they've told you only the floor needs checking as the rest is aluminium (i think), as I said Carthago is just visual check as there's no wood to check the damp on.

Absorbed moisture is bad news, aluminium or otherwise. Various materials can be used. Aluminium roofs will have an insulation material beneath. Marquis informed us that GRP is used on our motorhome. A damp meter registers a reading and does not depend on human interpretation. But thanks for your comments.

 

[MichaelT]

Absorbed moisture is bad news, aluminium or otherwise. Various materials can be used. Aluminium roofs will have an insulation material beneath. Marquis informed us that GRP is used on our motorhome. A damp meter registers a reading and does not depend on human interpretation. But thanks for your comments.




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Most are sandwich aluminium with foam in the middle for insulation and the better quality (I think XPS) then that is moisture proof. My argument is you can't check aluminium for damp like you can wood!

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[Chainwheel2]

A damp meter reading may be a warranty requirement. We are waiting for a response from Benimar Spain. In any case, if Benimar are happy to maintain the warranty without the use of a damp meter check, then subject closed. Thank you for your comments.