CAMC retention

Only 10 sites in that offer, presumably ones that are struggling more than others or were (even more) overpriced anyway.
 
Whitebirdyman said:
Only 10 sites in that offer, presumably ones that are struggling more than others or were (even more) overpriced anyway.
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exactly there are some other ones in the Summer "offer"...... appears that the new pricing structure has not gone well, having to offer a 20% discount even in the Summer holidays...... as you say Overpriced.... won't make any difference to us...we heading to CL's
 
The view in front of me as I sit outside my van at a Aire beside the lake at Lisle-sur-Tarn in France where it’s been 24 degrees today. The cost, nil, much better than 20% off a CAMC site, and no wardens or rules. 😀
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Janine said:
I haven’t renewed either.

I had the phone call yesterday asking why. I told them it was too expensive. She said that, if I want to join again in the future, they will add an extra £10 to the membership fee.

That will encourage me to re-join obviously! 🤔

It is however encouraging me to look at independent sites in areas that I dont normally visit.
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How much are they charging you to recommend a friend ?:cautious:

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Just come back from stopping at the C&CC at Malvern-hills for 24.50 a night including free wifi. Did try to get in at the C&MC site next door first but they wanted £35 a night! Last year it was £23.50? Dont understand the hike in a price? The wardens at the C&CC stated that they had their electric charge actually fixed before it went sky high so no need to make it any dearer. They added that common sense would have meant that the C&MC would have done the same too, however.....no further comment was made because of "potential legal Issues" as they put it!
We Wont be using the C&MC much this year either.

Carolyn and Kev :rolleyes:
 
kingmid said:
We stayed at Rowntree Park last week at extortionate prices, but it suited what we wanted to do so paid up. £177 for four nights. Thing is that it was full every night, and until they have empty pitches they’ll continue to charge these ridiculous prices. CLs for us too in future, plus some commercial cites which can be better value.
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Wouldn't pay those prices. We found a great cl a leisurely 3m walk or bus from york at Bishop thorpe called Foss dyke set in a pine wood. We found Bishopthorpe with great pub gardens was a better place to visit than York which was spoiled by catering to gazillions of students.

This is why I am staying in the CAMC
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We have in the past couple of weeks used 2 commercial sites both all singing and dancing facilities, Bar,restraunt, swimming pools and saunas etc not what we usually go for but at prices a fraction of what the CAMC. are charging and no membership fee to use them. No doubt about it the CAMC. are taking us for mugs
 
I joined in Dec and have been to about 10 sites , pretty much all have been fully booked so don‘t recognise what other posters are claiming about empty sites . I do although agree the prices are bloody steep and more than I expected before signing up .
I guess it’s down to popularity and all the new motorhomes on the rd compared to 5/10 yrs ago ?
 
Andy MacD said:
Aire beside the lake at Lisle-sur-Tarn
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Ok, karma got me for my smugness. The real aire was closed so, along with 5 other vans, we were parked at the side of the lake. Not speaking good French I didn’t pay much notice to the signs around the lake apart from noting fishing was’t allowed yesterday. Turns out it was because the lake was being re stocked with trout. From 6am the lake was jammed with anglers and all the MHs were blocked in by French anglers upset vans had taken their parking spaces. We just went for a walk and by lunchtime the cars parked immediately in front and behind us were gone and we set off on our travels again. No idea where we’re going next, but that’s the best part, day 39 of our 78 day trip.

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Supply and demand. They get full, therefore they can charge top dollar.

It's unfortunate that they allow non-members to fill the sites that members helped fund, thereby making it difficult for members to find sites without booking well ahead. Defeats the object of freedom and spontaneity.
 
MichaelT said:
Travel insurance.
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Not for all…£125 annual policy for LV UK and European travel. Ferry cost recovered in 10 nights assuming CMC are charging their usual exorbitant rates for comparable sites. Beyond that it’s savings of about £20+ a day assuming I use sites with facilities. For my forthcoming trip of 70 days that’s about £1200 - it’s a no brainer for me.
Diesel costs are irrelevant. I live in Cornwall and every destination be it UK or continental Europe is a long way.

Last week I did an overnight in Bristol …. £42 CMC or £20 for a nearby CL with easy & quick access.
 
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MichaelT said:
Apart from the £300 ferry, £200 diesel, £300 insurance etc.
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How much would site fees be for a 78 night trip in the UK?

Take it down to a nightly cost, assume in a week you spend 3 nights in a free aire, 4 nights in a paid Aire at ave €10 a night and then every 3 or 4 weeks a few days holiday in a camp site, full facilities at the CampingCard rate of €22 a night. A tank of diesel a week and 2 refills of lpg.

I couldn’t afford this trip in the UK.

Then there’s the Boulageries, chateaus, vineyards (had a very nice tour and free tasting the other day, 4 samples of wines costing €25, €45, €120 and €170. Etc. Bliss.
 
Folkranger said:
Supply and demand.

It's unfortunate that they allow non-members to fill the sites that members helped fund, thereby making it difficult for members to find sites without booking well ahead. Defeats the object of freedom and spontaneity.
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Only certain sites allow non members. They have to pay £15 extra which given the existing pricing probably puts most people off.
 
mapman said:
Only certain sites allow non members. They have to pay £15 extra which given the existing pricing probably puts most people off.
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At the major city/interest sites non-members will pay through the nose to get on. There is, however, a general belief that non-membership is a small issue and not really the problem. I don't know because I don't believe the data is published.
 
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Cancelled mine in March - too expensive for site pitches and to be honest going to mainland Europe is much more attractive to me as well as being so much easier. Perhaps if more folk cancelled then something might change but unfortunately the wobble boxers outnumber us so it will take time/.
 
cyberyacht said:
Like many, the only thing that keeps us is the CL network. Not sure if I mentioned it here or on the 'Club Together' forum but i wonder if they are fattening it up for a Hedge Fund buyout.
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Or by camping-car parks company?

It would save them up-front capital costs.

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After the hiatus caused by the Avian Influenza Prevention Zone that ended on Tuesday I decided to book a CAMC site for 3 nights. The pitch prices looked a bit steep for low season but I pressed on.

I used the very clunky online booking service. I did notice that availability at the site we wanted was better than for the same month last year. Now I can understand why. It froze at the payment confirmation page, so I presume the card payment for the deposit failed to go through despite my card provider having authorised the payment. Tried again after deleting all cookies. You have to start from scratch, and this time it froze before I reached the payment stage. The new software the Club is using isn't user-friendly and basically has bugs so needs a lot more fixing. I rang them up. After waiting a while, got through. Their helpful agent (who didn't seem at all surprised by my problems) took payment over the phone to complete the booking.

How many members are actually getting the booking system to work? Which browser does it work with best?

At this rate I will try the commercial sites first for our other planned breaks in the UK.

Their old online system for booking sites was much easier to use and last year worked well for us. All those 2022 bookings were made before the Club required deposits. We only cancelled once and that was due to circumstances beyond our control. Hardly a big problem for the Club.

The other change I noticed is that the site office phone numbers are no longer shown in the 2023 Members Handbook. They don't seem to want us to phone sites to check late availability.

The Club gets more and more annoying. The Club has lost its main advantage for us. Not sure yet if I will renew our membership.
 
Andy MacD said:
How much would site fees be for a 78 night trip in the UK?

Take it down to a nightly cost, assume in a week you spend 3 nights in a free aire, 4 nights in a paid Aire at ave €10 a night and then every 3 or 4 weeks a few days holiday in a camp site, full facilities at the CampingCard rate of €22 a night. A tank of diesel a week and 2 refills of lpg.

I couldn’t afford this trip in the UK.

Then there’s the Boulageries, chateaus, vineyards (had a very nice tour and free tasting the other day, 4 samples of wines costing €25, €45, €120 and €170. Etc. Bliss.
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Totally agree.

We are away for 75 nights this trip. Lets be really really optimistic and say we got away with £25 a night in the UK (lets be fair - no chance of that), which would be £1875.

We're in Liguria, Italy at the moment - Day12. We spent 7 nights travelling through France. Our only overnight stops costs so far was 34 Euros to join Agricamper Italia. £173 for the Tunnel, and diesel is about the same cost as at home. Oh, and we haven't needed to book anywhere in advance, which is pretty much impossible in the UK.

Really is a no brainer as far as I'm concerned. Love the UK - just not for m/homing.

Neither of the main clubs cater for motorhomers who like spontaneity, and IMV charge crazy prices for a pitch, especially when you don't need or want showers, EHU, toilet blocks, etc.
 
Dorset Diver said:
My membership expired in March and despite their pleas and threats I am now a non-member.
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Do you still post on the CT Forum? Seems to me that quite a few posters (including the old guard) are now non-members using the Forum as a platform to comment on site fees and whinge about CMC in general, but nobody is listening?
 
cyberyacht said:
Like many, the only thing that keeps us is the CL network. Not sure if I mentioned it here or on the 'Club Together' forum but i wonder if they are fattening it up for a Hedge Fund buyout.
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Not sure I buy that, I just think they’ve forgotten what they’re about and don’t really care much about motorhomes or touring. There’s still a hardcore of caravaners who like it that way and most of them are daft and loyal enough to carry on paying high prices for ever more gravel, EHU, doggie baths and full service pitches!

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