Bad/Sad News From West Wales

[NorthernSoul]

I'd like to see more and better provision for parking motorhomes, and I'll be happy to pay the going rate for it. Perhaps some businesses (e.g supermarkets) might provide free or subsidised parking for customers for an hour or two, but that's their business decision.

As for the Councils providing overnight stops, I think that any sites need to be managed and maintained, and numbers controlled. Equally importantly, locals need to see that the charges for overnight stays are realistic and comparable with what local residents themselves pay for living in the area. The equivelant daily rate to that paid by someone on a residential caravan site seems to be a good starting point, to include site charges, maintenance, council tax, admin, security etc. As a local resident I have to pay all these charges (but for a house). I contribute to local businesses by eating out, shopping, going to the cinema and theatre, using sports centres etc. Why don't I get a subsidy for my costs of living in the area because of what I bring to local businesses?

 

[Btg]

People wild camping over here think if they park somewhere nice they can stay a thew weeks and as long as they get away with it and argue with people until they are forced to move they can all about attitude in France you can stay almost anywhere on an Aire or Car park overnight no problem if you want to stay longer they police these areas n charge small fees nobody says a word to you on stopping overnight apart from good morning over here they say f++k off an get violent when I get caught out finding somewhere to stay over here it’s like parking with one eye open all night I’m full Timing at the moment and stay on cl sites for 3 weeks a time otherwise I’m classed as a gypsy and not welcome ,,

 

[Barclaybasher]

I contribute to local businesses by eating out, shopping, going to the cinema and theatre, using sports centres etc. Why don't I get a subsidy for my costs of living in the area because of what I bring to local businesses?

So you don't shop, eat out etc in other areas?

 

[NorthernSoul]

So you don't shop, eat out etc in other areas?

Yes, but I don't expect them to provide me with subsidised overnight accommodation.

 

[Lucky]

I think that it is GOOD news. The sooner we get the FLT mob off the road the better.

What does FLT mean? Google came up with 42 suggestions, none of which suit.

Acronym	Definition
FLT	Fault
FLT	Flight
FLT	Flat
FLT	Filter
FLT	Fleet
FLT	Foundation for the Law of Time (Ashland, OR)
FLT	Faith, Love, and Trust
FLT	Friendship, Love and Truth (Independent Order of Odd Fellows)
FLT	Fork Lift Truck
FLT	Fédération Luxembourgeoise de Tennis (French: Luxembourg Tennis Federation; Luxembourg)
FLT	Fairlight (software cracking group)
FLT	Faculdade Luterana de Teologia (Portuguese: Lutheran School of Theology; Brazil)
FLT	Fuzzy Logic Toolbox
FLT	First Level Technology
FLT	Floating
FLT	File Lifecycle Tracking
FLT	Full Line Terminal
FLT	File Filter
FLT	Fermat's Last Theorem
FLT	Frontal Lobe Type
FLT	Freelancers Team
FLT	First Lieutenant
FLT	Foreign Language Teaching (education)
FLT	Float/Floating
FLT	Firstline Therapy (therapeutic lifestyle change program for chronic diseases of aging)
FLT	Finger Lakes Trail (footpath; New York)
FLT	Fermat's Little Theorem
FLT	Full Liner Terms (charter)
FLT	Full Length Transcript (genetics)
FLT	Full Load Torque
FLT	Flatbar
FLT	Fairfield Language Technologies
FLT	Full Line Terminal (Cisco)
FLT	Forest Leadership Team
FLT	Feels Like Today (song)
FLT	Funny Little Thing (OS bugs during Apollo G/S development)
FLT	Frequency Line Tracker
FLT	Firstline Trust (CIBC Mortgages and Lending subsidiary, Toronto, Canada)
FLT	Functional Level Test
FLT	Foothills Land Trust (est. 2002)
FLT	Friday Lunchtime Talk

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[Herbyventures]

Surely there is a deep irony here. Loads of people trying to 'get away' and find a wild spot..... except they're all going to the same spots. Pretty predictable, surely? If you really want to get away from other people, don't go to the prime tourist areas or wait until the school holidays are over.
Oh, and 'Staycationing' means having a holiday in your own home. If you're in a different part of the UK from where you live, that's called being on holiday!

 

[gus-lopez]

There is no point in batting about allegations without facts.

There is if you are councillors & can vote on inventions others make & you agree with.
most councils these days are inabited by people with there own agenda. For many ,many years now you would be lucky to find one who is there solely to aid & assist the locals.
Most councils see , bins, lights, road sweeping ,toilets as something to be got rid of so they can squander money on what "they" believe is good for the community.

Oh, and 'Staycationing' means having a holiday in your own home. If you're in a different part of the UK from where you live, that's called being on holiday!

Yes exactly.
why aren't they back at work?

 

[steve69]

What does FLT mean? Google came up with 42 suggestions, none of which suit.

Acronym	Definition
FLT	Fault
FLT	Flight
FLT	Flat
FLT	Filter
FLT	Fleet
FLT	Foundation for the Law of Time (Ashland, OR)
FLT	Faith, Love, and Trust
FLT	Friendship, Love and Truth (Independent Order of Odd Fellows)
FLT	Fork Lift Truck
FLT	Fédération Luxembourgeoise de Tennis (French: Luxembourg Tennis Federation; Luxembourg)
FLT	Fairlight (software cracking group)
FLT	Faculdade Luterana de Teologia (Portuguese: Lutheran School of Theology; Brazil)
FLT	Fuzzy Logic Toolbox
FLT	First Level Technology
FLT	Floating
FLT	File Lifecycle Tracking
FLT	Full Line Terminal
FLT	File Filter
FLT	Fermat's Last Theorem
FLT	Frontal Lobe Type
FLT	Freelancers Team
FLT	First Lieutenant
FLT	Foreign Language Teaching (education)
FLT	Float/Floating
FLT	Firstline Therapy (therapeutic lifestyle change program for chronic diseases of aging)
FLT	Finger Lakes Trail (footpath; New York)
FLT	Fermat's Little Theorem
FLT	Full Liner Terms (charter)
FLT	Full Length Transcript (genetics)
FLT	Full Load Torque
FLT	Flatbar
FLT	Fairfield Language Technologies
FLT	Full Line Terminal (Cisco)
FLT	Forest Leadership Team
FLT	Feels Like Today (song)
FLT	Funny Little Thing (OS bugs during Apollo G/S development)
FLT	Frequency Line Tracker
FLT	Firstline Trust (CIBC Mortgages and Lending subsidiary, Toronto, Canada)
FLT	Functional Level Test
FLT	Foothills Land Trust (est. 2002)
FLT	Friday Lunchtime Talk

Fully agree. My biggest bugbear with this site is abbreviations. Will the first poster of any comment using abbreviations please state what it means Oh Please!? Not all of us are as worldly wise as you.

 

[Barclaybasher]

Yes, but I don't expect them to provide me with subsidised overnight accommodation.

Who is asking for accomodation? unless you call a space in an existing carpark accomodation....

 

[eddie]

You do talk such utter nonsense

I've seen your responses when people disagree with your view that everything should be free for you!

I never at anytime said campsites were dumping rubbish and I never said councils were colluding with tea shops

Oh I apologise then, I misread this post! your post!

And there's also the multiple cases of alleged reports of waste dumping etc thats originated from campsite owners/employees and local b&b

Try specsavers

Ironic really given the above posts

P.s Aires ARE happening do try to keep up

I hope that they do, but even in a handful do open, they will be abused and closed again sadly.

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[MC 55 FUN]

Who is asking for accomodation? unless you call a space in an existing carpark accomodation....

It's perfectly reasonable to call space in an existing car park accommodation.

Definition of accommodation

1: something supplied for convenience or to satisfy a need: such as
a: lodging, food, and services or traveling space and related services

 

[stevewagner]

Excerpt from the link :

Camper vans and caravans have also been seen parking in the RNLI reserved spaces, he said.

Utter scum, beneath contempt, irresponsible amoebic morons.

A bit over the top and name calling is unnecessary.

 

[Barclaybasher]

It's perfectly reasonable to call space in an existing car park accommodation.
Definition of accommodation
1: something supplied for convenience or to satisfy a need: such as
a: lodging, food, and services or traveling space and related services

Paying to stay in a carpark is adding to the local economy as is spending cash in local businesses.

I am surprised that so many motorhomers do not find the need to park anywhere but at home or on sites...

...... caravan anyone?

 

[MC 55 FUN]

A bit over the top and name calling is unnecessary.

I disagree, R.N.L.I. unpaid volunteers put their lives at risk to save other lives, the very least they deserve is to find their reserved parking space available for their use when a shout goes out, nowhere to park may prevent the lifeboat from launching at worst due to lack of personnel, or at best launching in any case whilst under resourced.

I wasn't '' name calling '' I was accurately describing them & their actions .

 

[stevewagner]

I'd happily see Illegally parked Motorhomes taken away and crushed. Those who prefer doing it the French way know where they can go

If it's not legal then, please - go to where it is. Don't try and impose your preferences on the rest of us!

Crushing motorhomes for illegal parking are you sure - slightly over the top! No one is imposing their preference on you. It's all a matter of choice. If you don't want to wild camp that's your choice.

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[Slowshifter]

What does FLT mean? Google came up with 42 suggestions, none of which suit.

Acronym	Definition
FLT	Fault
FLT	Flight
FLT	Flat
FLT	Filter
FLT	Fleet
FLT	Foundation for the Law of Time (Ashland, OR)
FLT	Faith, Love, and Trust
FLT	Friendship, Love and Truth (Independent Order of Odd Fellows)
FLT	Fork Lift Truck
FLT	Fédération Luxembourgeoise de Tennis (French: Luxembourg Tennis Federation; Luxembourg)
FLT	Fairlight (software cracking group)
FLT	Faculdade Luterana de Teologia (Portuguese: Lutheran School of Theology; Brazil)
FLT	Fuzzy Logic Toolbox
FLT	First Level Technology
FLT	Floating
FLT	File Lifecycle Tracking
FLT	Full Line Terminal
FLT	File Filter
FLT	Fermat's Last Theorem
FLT	Frontal Lobe Type
FLT	Freelancers Team
FLT	First Lieutenant
FLT	Foreign Language Teaching (education)
FLT	Float/Floating
FLT	Firstline Therapy (therapeutic lifestyle change program for chronic diseases of aging)
FLT	Finger Lakes Trail (footpath; New York)
FLT	Fermat's Little Theorem
FLT	Full Liner Terms (charter)
FLT	Full Length Transcript (genetics)
FLT	Full Load Torque
FLT	Flatbar
FLT	Fairfield Language Technologies
FLT	Full Line Terminal (Cisco)
FLT	Forest Leadership Team
FLT	Feels Like Today (song)
FLT	Funny Little Thing (OS bugs during Apollo G/S development)
FLT	Frequency Line Tracker
FLT	Firstline Trust (CIBC Mortgages and Lending subsidiary, Toronto, Canada)
FLT	Functional Level Test
FLT	Foothills Land Trust (est. 2002)
FLT	Friday Lunchtime Talk

well said I have mentioned before all the blimmin TLAs GOMT

 

[MC 55 FUN]

Paying to stay in a carpark is adding to the local economy as is spending cash in local businesses.

I didn't say they were not contributing, I was querying your understanding of the word '' accommodation ''

 

[stevewagner]

I disagree, R.N.L.I. unpaid volunteers put their lives at risk to save other lives, the very least they deserve is to find their reserved parking space available for their use when a shout goes out, nowhere to park may prevent the lifeboat from launching at worst due to lack of personnel, or at best launching in any case whilst under resourced.

I wasn't '' name calling '' I was accurately describing them & their actions .

'utter scum' is not name calling then?

 

[Barclaybasher]

I didn't say they were not contributing, I was querying your understanding of the word '' accommodation ''

The original quote was 'subsidised accommodation'....

 

[MC 55 FUN]

for illegal parking - No one is imposing their preference on you.

That's the entire point . illegal parking by definition is imposing illegal '' preferences '' on other law abiding folk.

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[MC 55 FUN]

'utter scum' is not name calling then?

Read post #74

 

[Northernraider]

I've seen your responses when people disagree with your view that everything should be free for you!


Oh I apologise then, I misread this post! your post!



Ironic really given the above posts

I hope that they do, but even in a handful do open, they will be abused and closed again sadly.

Comprehension is challenging for you it would seem.

 

[MC 55 FUN]

The original quote was 'subsidised accommodation'....

Not what you said :

Who is asking for accomodation? unless you call a space in an existing carpark accomodation....

 

[bigalw35]

I think that it is GOOD news. The sooner we get the FLT mob off the road the better.

forgive me asking but what is "flt" please

 

[Littleoldman]

I live in Carmarthenshire and unless you’re travelling down from Aberystwyth it’s the county you go through to get to Pembrokeshire. In Llanelli there’s a new development of some 600 new houses and it’s on the site of Stradey Park ( rugby enthusiasts will know about Stradey Park). Bordering on this new development is a brand new Primary school. As with everywhere the school is shut. Last week a local traveller family moved onto the school’s car park. There’s a very large tree a out 30 meters from the car park and 10 metres from some of the New houses. The family in the caravan have been using the tree as a toilet in full view of about 60 properties. The locals all decided to contact the council (not really sure who they got hold of, might have been the police). They were expecting some action at the site, and they got it! The council turned up ....... with a portaloo and a means of providing the traveler family with water. The residents who complained were told the travellers were only staying for 2 weeks.
I’m thinking perhaps all the camper vans and Motorhomes in Pembrokeshire should get to the nearest school and park up in the car park.

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[Barclaybasher]

Not what you said :

Who is asking for accomodation? unless you call a space in an existing carpark accomodation....

Getting pedantic but:

Do you really consider that when you are parking your motorhome that the space you occupy is 'accommodation' in the generally accepted meaning of the word?....

 

[MC 55 FUN]

Getting pedantic but:

Do you really consider that when you are parking your motorhome that the space you occupy is 'accommodation' in the generally accepted meaning of the word?....

That depends on one's grasp of the English language I suppose.

As I was reasonably well educated, yes I do.

 

[discokid]

I'm still in the dark. Will someone please turn on the light and explain what an FLT is?

 

[Spoons]

View attachment 416793

Maybe one of the 64 other sites (where they may have to contribute)?

Hi what website is this from please it looks to be very useful?
Thanks
Baz

 

[Barclaybasher]

That depends on one's grasp of the English language I suppose.
As I was reasonably well educated, yes I do.

So the next time you are looking for a parking space you will be asking for 'accommodation'......

...then ..."No - I mean a parking space"....

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