Anyone still going away for New Year ?

[rolosroller]

Is that not what they are paid for

Why arnt we using the Nightingale Hospitals with the Forces medical staff

Spriddler said:
Two nurses, exhausted and distraught from saving strangers' lives interviewed just now on Radio 4's PM

Bit harsh

 

[Lusky]

Just chopped the old van and upgraded to a nice Hymer. Booked a lovely site in Pembrokeshire for New Years Eve. Free electricity and water. Lovely pitch. Very quiet here right now. 2 minute walk to the beach. Wales in Tier 4 at present. Yes, I am on my driveway

I stayed on a similar pitch Christmas Day, free internet also

 

[Langtoftlad]

Why arnt we using the Nightingale Hospitals with the Forces medical staff

As far as know... the Forces medical staff tend to be seconded from the NHS

 

[Oldbob]

I am away, and staying away, beaten off hoards of pitchfork wielding locals, driven through road blocks, and still on the run .
Am doing my bit of isolation, just the 3 of us, helping keep the treasury from going under by using some fuel, and a nice site that has suffered with a bit of my well earned money.
More covid safe like this than anywhere.
Also saving the nhs, as if I wasnt here I would be using up their space and resources. I just take my tablets like a good boy and try and behave !

 

[Jim]

So, no-one "still going away for New Year " then?

I'm stopping on a nice little campsite

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[coroner]

How many can U fit on yr drive asking for a friend

 

[Toady]

Always room on my drive but Dyfed-Powys Police are stopping and fining everybody so good luck if you are caught driving a MH in Pembrokeshire.

 

[DBK]

Why arnt we using the Nightingale Hospitals with the Forces medical staff

Military medical staff hardly exist any more. There uses to be military hospitals but they've all gone.

 

[Silkcut1105]

this is just a wind up i think .

 

[coroner]

Not if we stick a lightbar on it and some st johns amb stickers

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[Snoopy]

☺ happy New year to all, whatever your doing...or not... and wherever you are, sending prayers and best wishes,

 

[rolosroller]

Ministry of Defence Hospital Units, or MDHUs, are military healthcare facilities, embedded within a civilian hospital or National Health Service hospital. The Armed Forces no longer run dedicated Military hospitals, the last of such hospitals closing or turned over to the local NHS trust in 1995, (though the hospital at RAF Akrotiri, Cyprus, stayed open until 2013).[1] MDHUs operate under the direction of Defence Medical Services,[2] who operate seven MDHUs in the UK.[3]

These are based at:

• Frimley Park Hospital, Frimley, Surrey
• Queen Alexandra Hospital, Portsmouth
• Derriford Hospital, Plymouth
• Queen Elizabeth Hospital Birmingham
• James Cook University Hospital, Middlesbrough
• John Radcliffe Hospital, Oxfordshire
• Queen Victoria Hospital, East Grinstead

The Ministry of Defence is also responsible for the Royal Centre for Defence Medicine at Queen Elizabeth Hospital (QEH) in Birmingham.[4] MOD Hospital Units cater to service personnel and their dependents but do not treat operational casualties, who are treated at QEH (and formerly at Selly Oak Hospital).

MOD Hospital Unit staff are fully integrated with civilian staff at their respective hospitals and are not limited to treating only military patients and their dependents.[citation needed] As they are military personnel, they wear their service uniforms to work. Staff are generally drawn from all three services and are liable to be deployed when needed.

 

[Coolcats]

Is that not what they are paid for

Why arnt we using the Nightingale Hospitals with the Forces medical staff

Being a little cynical I had heard that no additional toilet facilities had been installed, staff are stretched at the hospitals and the Nightingales do not have the staff available to run. They are more of a Marketing exercise than a truly practical solution and another reason to stay home and stay safe.

 

[JohnJan]

I'm stopping on a nice little campsite

Have you gone away somewhere then?

 

[Northernraider]

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[138go]

Most of those posters, who were fully intent on going away and living with the virus, seem to have calmed down somewhat. It just takes some a while to catch on!

 

[andyman]

Being a little cynical I had heard that no additional toilet facilities had been installed, staff are stretched at the hospitals and the Nightingales do not have the staff available to run. They are more of a Marketing exercise than a truly practical solution and another reason to stay home and stay safe.

Source of this information please.

 

[Coolcats]

Source of this information please.

Heard not read, If I had read it I could share it

 

[The Wino]

I think if we need the nightingales the death rates are going to rise a lot they are posh field hospitals not the same as conventional care. They were good things to have as a fallback if it gets really dire.

 

[The general]

And of course the extra professionals it would take to run them and the hospitals , I agreed they are there as a last result . Nothing wrong in having them .

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[The Wino]

And of course the extra professionals it would take to run them and the hospitals , I agreed they are there as a last result . Nothing wrong in having them .

But there are a lot saying it's terrible were not using them I just am relieved we haven't reached that point.

 

[Coolcats]

Source of this information please.

Not a fan of the Daily Fail but here is one source other papers are reporting the same

But after they were mothballed today it emerged health bosses have already started stripping the flagship Nightingale in London of its 4,000 beds, ventilators and even signs directing ambulances to wards. Photos from inside the hospital today revealed it is virtually deserted, with wards emptied of beds, chairs stacked on top of each other in storage and no ambulances outside.”

 

[Gary217]

Let's face it, with the staffing levels being used to the max elsewhere these were only ever likely to be a form of hospice as no one can just magic up the extra staff to give curative care. Let's hope we don't get to need them.

 

[David and Sally]

...does not always equate to being wise nor sensible.

Driving at 60mph in fog but should you do it just because it's legal?

It’s not legal. If you drive otherwise in accordance with the conditions it is an offence.

 

[Gellyneck]

Port gerakas most likely .... someone's gotta keep motorhoming whilst all the bugger's here visit Coventry

Happy hogmanay .... Lang may yer lum reek!

Or as they say in Fife, lang may yer bum squeak!

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[Oldbob]

Most of those posters, who were fully intent on going away and living with the virus, seem to have calmed down somewhat. It just takes some a while to catch on!

Probably out somewhere enjoying themselves, not sat in front of a keyboard all day !

 

[Oldbob]

And to add into the mix, what difference is there to being away in a motorhome, safe site, use own facilities, and truck driver, travelling around uk, stops for fuel, stops to eat at who knows where, and then showers, all shared facilities, regardless of which their they come from, parks for night, then delivers goods and a lot of places are less covid stringent than the few sites left open.
Do you then stop this from happening ? So no foreign freight, and a loss of the supply chain ?
Sites that can be open are safer, more aware and just trying to earn a living.

 

[Langtoftlad]

what difference is there

The difference is that truck drivers are doing an essential job, not a leisure activity.
There is a risk to both but one is necessary, the other not.

Plus numbers - truck driving usually a solitary occupation, MH'ing usually couples or families.

 

[gus-lopez]

It’s not legal. If you drive otherwise in accordance with the conditions it is an offence.

It is .You might be done for dangerous driving but you cannot be done for speeding; which was the point.

And to add into the mix, what difference is there to being away in a motorhome, safe site, use own facilities, and truck driver, travelling around uk, stops for fuel, stops to eat at who knows where, and then showers, all shared facilities, regardless of which their they come from, parks for night, then delivers goods and a lot of places are less covid stringent than the few sites left open.
Do you then stop this from happening ? So no foreign freight, and a loss of the supply chain ?
Sites that can be open are safer, more aware and just trying to earn a living.

Might be like that in the UK but any driver facilities here have to be cleaned by staff after every use. Most drivers do not eat out as everywhere is usually closed & even if open buy the food & eat in the truck. Same with fuel. My neighbour fuels once in Luxembourg having driven from here to Belgium,Holland, & back.4800kms. & as was shown only last week there were only 36 + out of 15,000+ tests.

 

[David and Sally]

It is .You might be done for dangerous driving but you cannot be done for speeding; which was the point.

Picky or what?

Anyway, he said driving at 60 in the fog. Didn’t mention the speed limit or speeding. Being picky!!

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