Any Mechanics on here can explain what’s happening.

[Dorwyn]

So how does this lane assist work on narrow country lanes? Highly dangerous if it pulls you to one side.

 

[PP Bear]

Have you tried leaving the indicator on while overtaking, as it may well notify any safety features that you are overtaking etc.

 

[Chris Laing]

So just found this on Fiat website. Looks like this is the problem.

 

[Paulypaul]

BLIS....bloody lorry driver is stupid?

 

[steve69]

Does anyone really know what the computer in your vehicle is doing at any one time? I've had the engine warning light come on and then go off again a few times. Professional diagnostics says there are no problems.

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[TonyEmm]

So how does this lane assist work on narrow country lanes? Highly dangerous if it pulls you to one side.

Lane Assist recognises the white lines, between lanes. If there aren’t any, it’s not normally an issue however, our Tivoli is a bit over-sensitive! If the Road has been tarmacced with joins, it sometimes picks them up! It’s not so much resistance you can’t overcome it but, you can definitely feel it trying pull you back ‘on line’…..

 

[Chris Laing]

Have you tried leaving the indicator on while overtaking, as it may well notify any safety features that you are overtaking etc.

Funnily enough I was thinking about that. I generally do it a lot while driving in Germany to warn the F1 drivers on the autobahn I’m overtaking but not so much on French roads.
I’ll give it a try in August if I can get a definitive answer what’s going on.

 

[funflair]

Funnily enough I was thinking about that. I generally do it a lot while driving in Germany to warn the F1 drivers on the autobahn I’m overtaking but not so much on French roads.
I’ll give it a try in August if I can get a definitive answer what’s going on.

If it's computer intervention you should get something flash up on the dashboard, our lane departure warning will flash up "get back in lane" or something similar while simultaneously nudging the steering (just enough to feel but not dangerous), "cross wind assist" will momentarily brake on wheel to regain control but as I say it was removed from motorhome packages by IVECO.

I should add that "lane departure warning" is not functional if you use your indicators to change lane.

 

[SpeedyDux]

My 2020 Pugeot has something called lane assist or something. If you look at the interior rear mirror from the outside, in the black out area top middle, there's a small round spot where there is a camera lens. Owing to my personal circumstances I have not driven the van much at all, but just the other day I went out in it, it was a real handful in the wind. I'll have to look it up on the manual. I never read manuals coz it's usually in techno speak. I no speaky techno.

My Jazz Mk4 has the annoying Road Departure Mitigation and Lane Keep Assist systems that sound a warning bleep, and tugs the steering much too often for no good reason. You get used to it, because it is a faff using buttons and menus to turn these "driver aids" off before every journey. Correct me if I am wrong, but I understand the latest Ducatos along with windscreen top cameras now have electric steering, allowing FIAT to implement such hyper-sensitive electronic safety systems. I haven't driven such a Ducato, but I can imagine that when the system kicks in it will be irritating or maybe even alarming for the driver, depending on the circumstances.

I am in favour of Collision Mitigation Braking systems and anything that wakes you up if you nod off.

 

[funflair]

So how does this lane assist work on narrow country lanes? Highly dangerous if it pulls you to one side.

It only works once it has locked on to two lines, very rarely if ever on narrow country lanes as it can't lock on.

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[funflair]

My Jazz Mk4 has the annoying Road Departure Mitigation and Lane Keep Assist systems that sound a warning bleep, and tugs the steering much too often for no good reason. You get used to it, because it is a faff using buttons and menus to turn these "driver aids" off before every journey. Correct me if I am wrong, but I understand the latest Ducatos along with windscreen top cameras now have electric steering, allowing FIAT to implement such hyper-sensitive electronic safety systems. I haven't driven such a Ducato, but I can imagine that when the system kicks in it will be irritating or maybe even alarming for the driver, depending on the circumstances.

I am in favour of Collision Mitigation Braking systems and anything that wakes you up if you nod off.

On ours you can set the sensitivity and steering input level to suit yourself, if you don't want a fight with the steering wheel you set the steering input to low.

 

[Chris Laing]

Have you tried leaving the indicator on while overtaking, as it may well notify any safety features that you are overtaking etc.

Funnily enough I was thinking about that. I generally do it a lot while driving in Germany to warm the F1 drivers on the autobahn I’m overtaking but not so much on French roads.
I’ll give it a try in August if I can get a definitive

If it's computer intervention you should get something flash up on the dashboard, our lane departure warning will flash up "get back in lane" or something similar while simultaneously nudging the steering (just enough to feel but not dangerous), "cross wind assist" will momentarily brake on wheel to regain control but as I say it was removed from motorhome packages by IVECO.

I should add that "lane departure warning" is not functional if you use your indicators to change lane.

Its definitely wind assist as you describe. It momentarily breaks on passenger side but it’s a jolt and can reduce speed from 65 to 50 in seconds.
I have to take foot of gas and then back on a couple of times to gain speed again

 

[SpeedyDux]

It only works once it has locked on to two lines, very rarely if ever on narrow country lanes as it can't lock on.

My Road Departure Mitigation system reacts to grass verges. The designers have obviously never driven on our country lanes or B roads. The Lane Departure one only kicks in above about 50 mph. Enough about the Jazz which is excellent in many other ways. I use it as an example of the safety aids being oversensitive and intervening when it really isn't necessary. I hope they won't spoil the driving experience in the latest Ducato/Relay/Boxer MHs.

 

[funflair]

Funnily enough I was thinking about that. I generally do it a lot while driving in Germany to warm the F1 drivers on the autobahn I’m overtaking but not so much on French roads.
I’ll give it a try in August if I can get a definitive

Its definitely wind assist as you describe. It momentarily breaks on passenger side but it’s a jolt and can reduce speed from 65 to 50 in seconds.
I have to take foot of gas and then back on a couple of times to gain speed again

I would be looking for the OFF switch then,

My Road Departure Mitigation system reacts to grass verges. The designers have obviously never driven on our country lanes or B roads. The Lane Departure one only kicks in above about 50 mph. Enough about the Jazz which is excellent in many other ways. I use it as an example of the safety aids being oversensitive and intervening when it really isn't necessary. I hope they won't spoil the driving experience in the latest Ducato/Relay/Boxer MHs.

I should have said "our" etc etc

 

[chaser]

How do these things know which side of the road you are supposed to be on, as in left or right hand roads.?

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[PP Bear]

Funnily enough I was thinking about that. I generally do it a lot while driving in Germany to warn the F1 drivers on the autobahn I’m overtaking but not so much on French roads.
I’ll give it a try in August if I can get a definitive answer what’s going on.

I was stationed in Germany for 20 years, loved it, but I remember the advert that outlawed being in the fast lane with the indicator on. The F1 drivers used it as a means of trying to bully their way through traffic. That was in the 90’s, so not aware what the law states now

 

[enark]

I would have thought that was "Lane departure Warning" or "Active lane Keepr" or any other name for the same thing.

Not on Volvos, it’s called BLIS

 

[funflair]

How do these things know which side of the road you are supposed to be on, as in left or right hand roads.?

Good question, It wouldn't, when I first started using ours I got the feeling it thought we were driving on the right, we are LHD, it would try keep me further away from the Left side of the road than I wanted it to in the UK but over time it seems to have learned that I like to hug the left side, either that or I gave the camera a little tweak but it works fine over the water whatever.

 

[funflair]

Not on Volvos, it’s called BLIS

Volvo think it's Blind Spot information

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[Littlewheels]

I can't for the life of me see how something that puts your brakes on, never mind just one, when trying to overtake a lorry can be described as a safety feature, sounds very dangerous to me.

My understanding is both front and rear brake and from experience the vehicle does not pull you toward the vehicle being overtaken what it actually does is hold the line so it stops you hitting it or vice versa it warns you if you haven’t noticed visually that it’s closing in on you and allows you to move away. Remember this braking effect is instantaneous.

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[Odd job]

I can't for the life of me see how something that puts your brakes on, never mind just one, when trying to overtake a lorry can be described as a safety feature, sounds very dangerous to me.

My last car, a Suzuki, had "safety braking" it was very dangerous, kept putting the brake on if it thought something was getting too close, including on a bend if the corner Infront of it had a bank. I switched it off but it was automatically on, so had to be switched off every time. The VW we have now has something similar but without the automatic braking, it flashes a warning on screen, much easier to ignore.

 

[pelican]

Funnily enough I was thinking about that. I generally do it a lot while driving in Germany to warm the F1 drivers on the autobahn I’m overtaking but not so much on French roads.
I’ll give it a try in August if I can get a definitive

Its definitely wind assist as you describe. It momentarily breaks on passenger side but it’s a jolt and can reduce speed from 65 to 50 in seconds.
I have to take foot of gas and then back on a couple of times to gain speed again

I wonder if it also applys the brake lights warning people following you.

 

[enark]

So how does this lane assist work on narrow country lanes? Highly dangerous if it pulls you to one side.

It doesn’t, it knows your on a dual carriageway or motorway see.

 

[enark]

Good question, It wouldn't, when I first started using ours I got the feeling it thought we were driving on the right, we are LHD, it would try keep me further away from the Left side of the road than I wanted it to in the UK but over time it seems to have learned that I like to hug the left side, either that or I gave the camera a little tweak but it works fine over the water whatever.

It does cus it’s linked to yr sat Nav I guess?

 

[Silver-Fox]

How the he’ll did people manage to drive years ago without all these crap electronics deciding what the vehicle should be doing.

Ohh yeah it was called experience

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[funflair]

How the he’ll did people manage to drive years ago without all these crap electronics deciding what the vehicle should be doing.

Ohh yeah it was called experience

And some dozed off and ran off the road whilst other nodded off and ran into the back of slower moving traffic

 

[Littlewheels]

It’s an interesting observation that many posters complain of the dangers of Lane assist and so on, but, if you hold your postion in the Lane/road none of the features kick in,therefore ,it’s the driver’s ability that is questionable.

 

[Bramidan]

All becoming clearer now! A couple or more weeks ago we were driving south from Bruges.
Weather was grim and I was only doing about 55 mph, at times just tucked in behind lorries as though in a convoy!
Anyway went under a bridge or an overpass when I came out the other side the motorhome was buffeted quite strongly by the crosswind, it slowed up quite considerably and I had no idea what had happened, I actually thought my foot had slipped off the accelerator!
I know I should have been aware of the “safety feature” on the new Ducatto but never saw it in the virtually non existent manual!
Thanks Motorhomefun, every day a school day.

 

[Chris Laing]

So just at Cambridge services at moment it has done it 3 times now overtaking lorries all on the M11 dual carriageway not big 3 lane highways.

 

[funflair]

So just at Cambridge services at moment it has done it 3 times now overtaking lorries all on the M11 dual carriageway not big 3 lane highways.

Anything flash up on the dash?

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