50mph on the motorway.

[jongood]

Interesting response.
Motorhomes over a certain weight are classed as HGV and are limited to 60 on motorways,and 50 on A roads

You can still be a “carefully” as you put it,driver doing 56mph,just like you can if doing 60.

At 56 mph you would keep up with lorries,thus avoiding the need for them to use the middle lane.

Your last two sentences are possibly amusing to some,offensive to others,but in either case they don’t warrant a response.

Sorry to be pedantic here but Can I point out that mh's are allowed to do 70mph on motorway s

 

[chaser]

Not spiteful at all, apologise if you take as such. I am not condoning speeding purely drive to the roads limit. Why drive 14mph below the speed limit. If as stated previously under 3500kg.

We all pay the road tax, we can all use the roads at whatever speed we like, not siding with anyone here , unless there is a minimum speed limit you are quite free to do whatever speed you like up to the maximum.

 

[EuroTrotters]

Clearly never attended or zoomed a speed awareness test.

 

[jongood]

What a nasty spiteful post.
Please tell me what the difference is between a truck doing 56 mph and any other vehicle doing 56 mph.
I spent the best part of 50 years driving trucks and trying to avoid speeding dickheads that think it is their right to drive as fast as possible no matter what.

You've got me beaten on experience but I still regularly drive artics. With my trucker hat on I have to day that non- limited vehicles driving at 56 or less are a pita, mostly because as most professional s hav e time constraints they are in the way but also you never know quite what they're going to do and have greater flexibility with their speed, you can pull out to pass them and they then realise how much they're dawdling and keep you out in the middle lane or end their phone call and cut out in front. Of categories horse boxes are one of the worst driven.I

Personally I can't wait for grandfather C1 and the caravan entitlement to end, so all such drivers have had at least some training. I also favour retesting.

 

[Podney]

Sorry to be pedantic here but Can I point out that mh's are allowed to do 70mph on motorway s

That’s not being pedantic,that’s just being correct! Thanks for pointing it out. Yes,you are right,mine is 3850kg so 50mph on A roads, 60 on duals,and 70 on motorway. That’s UK of course……France is another set to remember and if I was going there soon I’d check them out,but that’s not going to happen any time soon!

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[2657]

You've got me beaten on experience but I still regularly drive artics. With my trucker hat on I have to day that non- limited vehicles driving at 56 or less are a pita, mostly because as most professional s hav e time constraints they are in the way but also you never know quite what they're going to do and have greater flexibility with their speed, you can pull out to pass them and they then realise how much they're dawdling and keep you out in the middle lane or end their phone call and cut out in front. Of categories horse boxes are one of the worst driven.I

Personally I can't wait for grandfather C1 and the caravan entitlement to end, so all such drivers have had at least some training. I also favour retesting.

I retired completely a couple of years ago after several years of semi retirement, I am in partnership with my son operating one tractor unit sub contracting for a well respected medium sized operator.
Inconsiderate driving is just that whether cars, motorhomes or trucks, nobody is perfect and lapses of concentration do occur when your speed drops a bit, I love cruise control to counteract this when possible. It is the reaction when you realise that you have dropped speed that matters and as you say most unlimited vehicles have the capability to adjust speed much more easily. On the occasions that I have found myself in this situation I will slow down a little, if safe, let the overtaker complete the manoeuvre and then try and regain my speed and **** off out of the way.....when safe to do so obviously
I agree fully with your comment about C1 and grandfather rights, there are still many drivers around with no experience of large vehicles that have the licence to drive up to 7500k and there are some very large vehicles at that weight.

 

[jongood]

I agree fully with your comment about C1 and grandfather rights, there are still many drivers around with no experience of large vehicles that have the licence to drive up to 7500k and there are some very large vehicles at that weight.

my wife is one of them, she's quite relieved that the current mh is over 7500kgs so she wouldn't be required to drive it.

 

[Rusticrogers]

my wife is one of them, she's quite relieved that the current mh is over 7500kgs so she wouldn't be required to drive it.

I’d rather not have my good lady drive me in her car, never mind a big motor home!
To be fair, she’d never expect to drive if I’m with her.

 

[SpeedyDux]

We all pay the road tax, we can all use the roads at whatever speed we like, not siding with anyone here , unless there is a minimum speed limit you are quite free to do whatever speed you like up to the maximum.

Not quite true. Driving too slow on a motorway can result in being charged with inconsiderate and careless driving or driving without due care and attention. Only lack of enforcement allows inconsiderate drivers to get away with it.

Worst example I ever came across was someone doing a steady 40 in lane 2 of the M25 on a (rare) day when it was possible to cruise along at 70.

 

[kevenh]

Driving too slow on a motorway can result in being charged with inconsiderate and careless driving

Vehicles that can’t maintain 25mph unladen are banned from motorways so there’s your minimum speed.
Although I’d hope a police patrol car would stop to check on drivers doing <45mph as their cruise speed.

There’s a story I haven’t verified of a driver doing 10mph and getting a 7 day ban.

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[Gaston aires]

Elderly………possibly.
Stupid……….a matter of personal choice.
Well insured, cautiously driving to the road conditions, within their comfort zone and capability and considerate………..
Most definitely!
And you don’t have to be old to be stupid.
Any age will qualify.

I didn’t give you permission to write about me !
Phil

 

[Pekepal]

Perhaps they are on holiday!

 

[Nigel P]

I would hazard a guess that the root of many driving problems stems from the 'I always do X or Y', this suggests that driving behaviour is dependent upon habit not context. We all share the road space and what is 'good for me' should not be detrimental to the other road users. Driving requires a level of skill and attention that analyses the prevailing conditions, then drive accordingly. It probably goes without saying that a large proportion of road users have little understanding of the limitations and capabilities of the vehicles around them, therefore inconveniencing others out of ignorance rather than malice. As in a previous post, I would agree that a general lack of enforcement of traffic rules allows the problems to persist. Motorways are probably the worst places for enforcement since the police appeared to have abandoned them in favour of the Highways Agency Traffic Officers.
Driving is probably one of the most complex things we do in our lives; yet for many there is no attempt to do it well.

 

[Rusticrogers]

I would hazard a guess that the root of many driving problems stems from the 'I always do X or Y', this suggests that driving behaviour is dependent upon habit not context. We all share the road space and what is 'good for me' should not be detrimental to the other road users. Driving requires a level of skill and attention that analyses the prevailing conditions, then drive accordingly. It probably goes without saying that a large proportion of road users have little understanding of the limitations and capabilities of the vehicles around them, therefore inconveniencing others out of ignorance rather than malice. As in a previous post, I would agree that a general lack of enforcement of traffic rules allows the problems to persist. Motorways are probably the worst places for enforcement since the police appeared to have abandoned them in favour of the Highways Agency Traffic Officers.
Driving is probably one of the most complex things we do in our lives; yet for many there is no attempt to do it well.

That’s a bit harsh. I’ve learnt to drive with my knees, whilst on the phone and after a few pints!

 

[busby]

Not quite true. Driving too slow on a motorway can result in being charged with inconsiderate and careless driving or driving without due care and attention. Only lack of enforcement allows inconsiderate drivers to get away with it.

Worst example I ever came across was someone doing a steady 40 in lane 2 of the M25 on a (rare) day when it was possible to cruise along at 70.

Thought 40mph would be hard to attain on the M25.BUSBY

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[SpeedyDux]

Thought 40mph would be hard to attain on the M25.BUSBY

I'm never going to use the M25 again on Fridays, for sure. Nearly spoilt my return from the last trip to France.

 

[Paulypaul]

My take on driving is that we should all drive according to the conditions. 70mph is the maximum speed and not the minimum, so I don't buy into some theories that if you aren't doing 70mph, you're dawdling? But at the same time, going slower than the flow of traffic is dangerous and really inconsiderate.

I don't drive my car often at 70 as there are too many numpties that want to get up your jacksie to hurry you up cause they want to do 80 or 90?

I suppose driving a truck at 56 mph has rubbed off on my domestic driving habits and 60-65 is plenty fast enough to stay out of trouble.

As for the Highways agency, they're only good to stand there scratching their heads when someone has broken down or for picking up escaped ratchet straps.

 

[grumps147]

I would hazard a guess that the root of many driving problems stems from the 'I always do X or Y', this suggests that driving behaviour is dependent upon habit not context. We all share the road space and what is 'good for me' should not be detrimental to the other road users. Driving requires a level of skill and attention that analyses the prevailing conditions, then drive accordingly. It probably goes without saying that a large proportion of road users have little understanding of the limitations and capabilities of the vehicles around them, therefore inconveniencing others out of ignorance rather than malice. As in a previous post, I would agree that a general lack of enforcement of traffic rules allows the problems to persist. Motorways are probably the worst places for enforcement since the police appeared to have abandoned them in favour of the Highways Agency Traffic Officers.
Driving is probably one of the most complex things we do in our lives; yet for many there is no attempt to do it well.

At the time traffic officers were introduced by the highways agency police forces with motorways lost a large chunk of budget and as a result slimmed down to deal with more serious matters. Since 2010, further large cuts to budgets have, some would say unfairly, been hacked off the roads policing budgets, hence why you see many fewer traffic police and on motorways especially.

 

[Wack]

You've got me beaten on experience but I still regularly drive artics. With my trucker hat on I have to day that non- limited vehicles driving at 56 or less are a pita, mostly because as most professional s hav e time constraints they are in the way but also you never know quite what they're going to do and have greater flexibility with their speed, you can pull out to pass them and they then realise how much they're dawdling and keep you out in the middle lane or end their phone call and cut out in front. Of categories horse boxes are one of the worst driven.I

Personally I can't wait for grandfather C1 and the caravan entitlement to end, so all such drivers have had at least some training. I also favour retesting.

Re-testing is never going to happen , they can't cope with the amount of new drivers wanting to take a test let alone millions of re-tests.

However there should at the very minimum be a compulsory eye test

 

[deleted79651]

Ten minutes extra can be run out of time on the taco

If you have to drive slower than HGVs, why not drop your speed a little more as soon as you see the lorry in your mirrors, watch the wagon pass your front wing and then immediately give a long flash of the lights so that the HGV driver knows he is clear, rather than guessing or waiting the 2 vehicle lengths or so before the driver can see that he is clear in the HGV mirrors? M/Home driver can then pick up speed 'at leisure' whilst the working HGV driver can crack on with his/her job & journey.

Courtesy and safety make a powerful combination!

Steve

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[tonyidle]

Years ago my dad wouldn’t switch on his lights until it was nearly dark to “save the battery” Old habits?

If you had ever owned a vehicle with a dynamo charging system you'd understand .

 

[Captain Yoghurtpot]

mostly because as most professional s hav e time constraints they are in the way

Here’s a thought then……………..,
Move all road freight back to rail!

In the way indeed……….!

 

[jongood]

Here’s a thought then……………..,
Move all road freight back to rail!

In the way indeed……….!

If you're happy to starve then

 

[2657]

If you're happy to starve then

I gave that post a like hoping that it was ironic