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With enough gears you wouldn't need fuel at all,
so long as your happy with your reasoning that's all that matters
50mph on the motorway.
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so long as your happy with your reasoning that's all that matters
Ivory55
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A bit like this
Ironically that could well be legal. My ML will legally tow 3500kgs and because its a car you don't need a tacho. Just got to be careful with the train weight.
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Yet another thread where I am made to think I shouldn’t be here on two counts, first I don’t toe it to the floor all the time, second it seems I am no longer fit to drive because of a medical condition that though I did pass my C1 last time the DVLA took so long to sort it I thought it would be simpler to drop to 3.5, which I did.
so that makes me an unfit person,what a load of cr*p.
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The Touran can tow between 1500kg and 2000kg depending on model , the ranger weighs more than that plus as the GVW of the car and trailer is over 3.5T when loaded it'll need a tachograph as he's using it for hire & reward.
If it's under 3.5T you're correct he won't need one
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If you look on empty load Uk there is plenty who advertise using a set up like this.
you missed out the word cowboys
It's a load of nonsense, I also gave up my c1 , not anything to do with health, just that I haven't got anything over 3.5 to drive, so no point , I can still drive my ford ranger though with a trailer up to 7.5 ton train, and any amount of tractors that I could probably put ten ton on.
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Yes, thick as shite
Whya are you not being paid? It isn't legal. If driving both when driving or parked for rest, yo must be paid. You are still in cahrge of the vehicle.
Yep if working must have a tacho
Only if being used privately.If you are using it for gain the 'Car' has to be fitted with a tachograph.
I think that must be a Tuareg as the Touran only has an engine capacity of 2 litres. That is shown as the 3litre. If a Tuareg it probably has a capacity of 3,5T but as before would need a tachograph for commercial use.
I think its a touareg.
Yes would need a tacho for working ,didn't realise that's what he was doing.
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Ivory55
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They don’t pay breaks because they can, there is a glut of cheap labour in the Uk so they have the upper hand. I think things might be slowly changing now.
You're correct, 3.5t towing capacity so it probably is legal , I bet he gets pulled a lot though , the DVSA will be spitting their tea out when he drives past towing with that
The wide angle lens is making the car on the trailer look massive compared to the tow car , I've got a touareg and it's a big car
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They reckon that there is a 70000 shortage of HGV drivers in the UK.Companies are struggling.
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Haha, if it was that short the wages would be rising at a hell of a rate, but they are not. There might be a shortage of cheaper drivers. Pay back time.
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Further to the attached post.
Have travelled a few miles up and down M5 & A303 of late and can confirm that 55-56Mph works just fine. occasional boosts to pass and get away from a slow HGV. MH seems fairly happy at that speed.
With the cruise control on that's average, bit quicker down and a bit slower up hills.
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Why travel at 55, 56. Limit is 70 on motorways up to 3500kg
Caravans are towed at 60. You'll be making them overtake you.
I came down M5 last evening, towing, pulled into middle lane to overtake one of these 55 dawdlers , I was doing 60. The speed limit. I was sat there a while as the guy decided to speed up a little. As I'm sat there I could hear the sound of screeching rubber. I look in my near side mirror to see a BMW swerving all over lane three. Shit, I cant go anywhere, As the BMW draws level I can see the driver fighting with the wheel, he very nearly swings across the front of me but holds it off, then he nearly hits the central crash barrier, but holds on. For about 5 seconds my life was in the balance.
I can only assume he came up behind me braked to hard and his ABS kicked in. On one hand he must have been a good driver to hold the car at 70 plus but then again he shouldn't have got himself in that situation.
But if I hadn't had to be in lane two to overtake a vehicle that should have been travelling faster than me it wouldn't have happened.
Slow vehicles on a motorway are a menace. If you want to drive at 55, stay on the A roads
Caravans are towed at 60. You'll be making them overtake you.
I came down M5 last evening, towing, pulled into middle lane to overtake one of these 55 dawdlers , I was doing 60. The speed limit. I was sat there a while as the guy decided to speed up a little. As I'm sat there I could hear the sound of screeching rubber. I look in my near side mirror to see a BMW swerving all over lane three. Shit, I cant go anywhere, As the BMW draws level I can see the driver fighting with the wheel, he very nearly swings across the front of me but holds it off, then he nearly hits the central crash barrier, but holds on. For about 5 seconds my life was in the balance.
I can only assume he came up behind me braked to hard and his ABS kicked in. On one hand he must have been a good driver to hold the car at 70 plus but then again he shouldn't have got himself in that situation.
But if I hadn't had to be in lane two to overtake a vehicle that should have been travelling faster than me it wouldn't have happened.
Slow vehicles on a motorway are a menace. If you want to drive at 55, stay on the A roads
Offside mirror.
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So a careful driver doing a very reasonable 56 mph is to blame because some dickhead in a beemer is driving too fast and can't read the road.
I find your views very strange and inconsistent with good road safety, it has been said many times, speed limits are just that, not a target.
Caravans are allowed to tow up to 60 mph, you could always have slowed down and tucked in behind.
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Itsmcb, Dont understand.
Not condoning midllelane hogs. Or for that matter the outside lane dlones
Re inside lane, are not large hgvs and things like hgv cranes allowed to trundle along at very much less than the legal limit?
Life is full of choices, dont knock folks who make different ones.
It would a "B" awful world to live in if we were all the same. Yes at times its frustrating.......
But
If you have a sat nav the difference in journey times between driving like loon and enjoying your trip are generally only minutes.
Rather be tardy in this life than early for whatever follows.
Not condoning midllelane hogs. Or for that matter the outside lane dlones
Re inside lane, are not large hgvs and things like hgv cranes allowed to trundle along at very much less than the legal limit?
Life is full of choices, dont knock folks who make different ones.
It would a "B" awful world to live in if we were all the same. Yes at times its frustrating.......
But
If you have a sat nav the difference in journey times between driving like loon and enjoying your trip are generally only minutes.
Rather be tardy in this life than early for whatever follows.
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Mines the 420, twin turbo V8 diesel, faster than the 500, a real wolf in sheeps clothing!
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My original post was querying why fairly new motorhomes capable of higher speeds would be driven at 50mph on the motorway. It's not pleasant being continually overtaken by HGVs which crawl past at only 5 mph faster. Cranes and oversize loads will be travelling slower but they also have flashing amber lights to warn other drivers that they are there and are a hazard. I completely agree that there's no need to be rushing along at 70 but just a few more mph would mean trucks are behind you rather than continually alongside.
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AAAAH Ok.
Perhaps your post misunderstood by many.
We (over 3500Kg) try to do 50 on normal roads, 56 on dual carriageways and 56-60 on motorways. these days that is. used to do the limit on whatever road but sat nav says there 's not a lot of gain. so by the same criteria travelling a tad slower (but not less than HGV) means less fuel, less stress trying to change lanes due to middle lane hogging.
Seriously if you have a sat nav and set it before start off. look at the predicted arrival time.
If you have an amazing fast clear run how much time did you save and was it worth it?
If you got held up and drove within the speed limits how much later were you?
Always surprises me that the predicted time (within reason) is never far out.
eg. a journey of 100m at average speed of: Takes:
50= 120m
60= 100m
70= 86m
And the average speed very much depends on the roads used, time of day and day of the week.
Not exactly life changing especially if you stop at some time for a break.
Chill enjoy the under estimated GB countryside and hopefully arrive safe and sound, wherever.
I don't consider some old foggie driving at 56 to be a carefully driver on a 70 mph road, more like someone that is either frightened to go faster or to tight to pay for a little additional fuel.
Why use the motorway at all if have no intention of keeping up with the flow of traffic?
If you want to relax go to a spa. If driving, concentrate on what your doing and do it . Dont sit there discussing your bowel movements with the missus while she makes a cup of tea in the back and half the population is stuck behind you because a lorry is trying to creep past you.
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What a nasty spiteful post.
Please tell me what the difference is between a truck doing 56 mph and any other vehicle doing 56 mph.
I spent the best part of 50 years driving trucks and trying to avoid speeding dickheads that think it is their right to drive as fast as possible no matter what.
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Interesting response.
Motorhomes over a certain weight are classed as HGV and are limited to 60 on motorways,and 50 on A roads
You can still be a “carefully” as you put it,driver doing 56mph,just like you can if doing 60.
At 56 mph you would keep up with lorries,thus avoiding the need for them to use the middle lane.
Your last two sentences are possibly amusing to some,offensive to others,but in either case they don’t warrant a response.
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Old foggie,,don't others dawdle. ??? I find young and middle aged drivers more a pain in the arse. Speeding where it's unsafe and dawdling where they can move on.Standards of modern driving is terrible.BUSBY.
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Written by an amateur driver probably.BUSBY.
Not spiteful at all, apologise if you take as such. I am not condoning speeding purely drive to the roads limit. Why drive 14mph below the speed limit. If as stated previously under 3500kg.
So you think.
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