Motorhoming in Greece - Drastic news.

[Barriesimpson]

I love the canaries I've visited many times mostly gran canaria and it was as a result of being offered a job out there that started me fulltiming.. my first long trip in 2018 was meant to take me there but while on route through Spain I was informed the place I was meant to be working had shut down and that led me to just travel around Spain and Portugal for a year instead. And here I am 7.5 years later lol.

I've not taken the van there but I have friends who have but really need to do all the Islands to justify the ferry cost to one of them from Spain..

And that's more expensive again .. and would still have to go to Morocco to extend that 90 days .

At least with Greece there's Turkey and further afield georgia Azerbaijan Almeria etc to explore . Its a pity Bulgaria and Romania are also now in shengen as they're also good to explore but again cold in winter

Morocco is spitting distance from the Canaries, but who would want to go there?

 

[Rog NotJane]

I’ve been reading reviews on Park4night from places we know well from our trips to the peloponnese. A lot are saying they have been moved on by the police.

Also Northernraider

Mousy are those in a specific area? Jane NotRog and I have just been random sampling P4N and we don’t see anything like that.

 

[Northernraider]

Also Northernraider

Mousy are those in a specific area? Jane NotRog and I have just been random sampling P4N and we don’t see anything like that.

The ones I posted were from a few different areas of the peloponnese. Elia , kala Nero, messini etc . The ones mousy posted were different again .

 

[Molly A]

I would love to go to Greece, but. HOWEVER

Not that I'm an expert on Legislation phrasing but it seems me that, as reported, the new law in Greece is unenforceable.
Yes, I know it's all right saying this from a rally field in Blighty but think for a minute.

If the new law says that a motorhome cannot be parked even on private land, how have the lawmakers in Greece made motorhome owners in Greece non culpable.
After all, they are parking a van on private land.
It would take a real legal wording contortionist to get around that.

I think that the law specifies no more than one motorhome on private land.

 

[Molly A]

The ones I posted were from a few different areas of the peloponnese. Elia , kala Nero, messini etc . The ones mousy posted were different again .

When you think of it, P4N is incredibly useful to police seeking out suitable targets...

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[125BEER]

In Greece everything is a drama.......Over reaction......then calm.........
Attached is the recognition of a meeting between officials and Hellenic MH CLUB.
ITS A START.........

Yamas

 

[BikerJon]

Who wants to drag a motorhome about when in a couple of hours in a Ryanair plane at £100 each return you can get be here.View attachment 1050732

I have a dog that goes everywhere with us, so we always go in the campervan.

 

[brushdw]

First point jumar lives in Spain.
Fiddlesticking is the forums answer to f'eckin
Their point about f,d,and nl vans is due to the vast amount of German and Dutch motorhomes who don't respect the no camping rules and insist on having chairs tables bicycles etc outside vans on display...many even have large plant pots etc now.. often reserving spaces on beaches and carparks with the aforementioned items whilst they go off out for the day. And as a result have caused countless restrictions on the costas and other places.....of course other Nationalities including some brits do this too but they're in the minority overall. Even the French are less guilty than the Germans and Dutch.


And Spain is always clogged up ....mostly over winter

I guess we've been to other parts of Spain. Not something we have seen. Only twice found full campings and rarely a problem finding other places to stop. Spring autumn and early winter.

 

[Bramidan]

This might sound radical but you could always book onto a recognised campsite!

 

[Skez]

This might sound radical but you could always book onto a recognised campsite!

Too radical for me

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[Just smiffy]

This might sound radical but you could always book onto a recognised campsite!

Ok if you want to stay in one place for 3 months where as I like to travel around and not plan….

 

[125BEER]

Found this update tonight will have a further look tomorrow.
Looks like there has been an amendment to parking provided "no camping"........

Yamas

 

[Northernraider]

Found this update tonight will have a further look tomorrow.
Looks like there has been an amendment to parking provided "no camping"........View attachment 1070175View attachment 1070176
Yamas

That still states designated areas .

 

[125BEER]

That still states designated areas .

But as in Greece it's a start and common sense will prevail.
Information from the "Hellenic Motorhome Club"

Yamas

 

[Mici]

Found this update tonight will have a further look tomorrow.
Looks like there has been an amendment to parking provided "no camping"........View attachment 1070175View attachment 1070176
Yamas

Hi 125beer ,May I ask where you found and copied this article from, was it an official website? do you have a link? We planned to go to Greece this September for 2-3 months, hopefully spending lots of money at private stops like Taverners near beaches etc and Aire type official stops near villages ( wilding looks out off the question now) But it looks like we will have to cancel the trip unless the Greek government at least let us PARK up ( no tables or chairs etc) at these places and stay for 24 hours! we will happy do campsites occasionally, but we want to be able to SEE Greece ,not just a campsite hedge! Does anyone have a link to an official web site which we can follow to see any official progress that Greece makes on changing the legislation, like the Hellenic motorhome clubs are trying to get them to implement ? Hopefully the above translated text is correct as that would help our decision as it looks like things are progressing and being clarified in a more positive manner. I read it as motorhomes are classed as a vehicle that CAN stop at these places which to me are designated private car parks or municipal car parks, or just a road. but for how long , is it 24 hours? doesn't say and how many motorhomes , is it still just one ? Also, does this now mean that motorhomes can park in archaeological car parks to be able to look around for a few hours? If anyone has further official info please add, as it seems to be confusing, or is that just me ! We are keeping a close eye on this, so Many thanks to all who have posted.
P.S oops just seen your last post its from the Hellenic motorhome club, thanks.

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[125BEER]

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Yamas

 

[Molly A]

This might sound radical but you could always book onto a recognised campsite!

Unfortunately, in many areas there are no campsites to book into. Its not like France...

 

[Lenny HB]

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Yamas

That really is good news so it looks like a trip to Greece is back on.

 

[corconx]

That really is good news so it looks like a trip to Greece is back on.

But how long is Tam’s? Longer than 7.5?

 

[Mici]

Am I being dumb ( which I may well be!) but what EXACTLEY does this mean? what does outside the planning area mean? Are we now allowed to park( as a car) near beaches and in forests if its in a residential area on a road or carpark (i.e a few houses near the beach) or does the original new legislation still ban us from parking at beaches , shores, forests historical sites completely or does this u turn legislation mean we can now use these areas as we are deemed a car and are allowed to park anywhere like a car. Does this mean we can stay in a car park indefinitely as there are no time restrictions which is going to be abused. What do they define as parked, are we allowed to sleep and eat in the motorhome or is this camping? how is everyone interpreting this? Also where can we find the original official document and be able to translate it for total clarification ! has anyone contacted or emailed the Hellenic Motorhome club? We still want to go to Greece but feel we need absolute clarification on this first. We have a 7.5 motorhome so that ok.

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[Langtoftlad]

But how long is Tam’s? Longer than 7.5?

Doesn't matter.
a) He's unlikely to want to park in a 'residential' area
b) Even if he finds in necessary, it's unlikely to be for more than 24h

 

[125BEER]

Am I being dumb ( which I may well be!) but what EXACTLEY does this mean? what does outside the planning area mean? Are we now allowed to park( as a car) near beaches and in forests if its in a residential area on a road or carpark (i.e a few houses near the beach) or does the original new legislation still ban us from parking at beaches , shores, forests historical sites completely or does this u turn legislation mean we can now use these areas as we are deemed a car and are allowed to park anywhere like a car. Does this mean we can stay in a car park indefinitely as there are no time restrictions which is going to be abused. What do they define as parked, are we allowed to sleep and eat in the motorhome or is this camping? how is everyone interpreting this? Also where can we find the original official document and be able to translate it for total clarification ! has anyone contacted or emailed the Hellenic Motorhome club? We still want to go to Greece but feel we need absolute clarification on this first. We have a 7.5 motorhome so that ok.

The information I have posted is from and linked from "Hellenic MH Club" and also the Greek government website.....also available in English......or via translate.
Please take your own due diligence when traveling.
I will try and get some more info ie: Hellenic MH Club and check the Gov site.......I maybe sometime....

Yamas

 

[125BEER]

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Yamas

 

[Raul]

But how long is Tam’s? Longer than 7.5?

He is a tall fella, but, under 2m.

 

[Mici]

The information I have posted is from and linked from "Hellenic MH Club" and also the Greek government website.....also available in English......or via translate.
Please take your own due diligence when traveling.
I will try and get some more info ie: Hellenic MH Club and check the Gov site.......I maybe sometime....

Yamas

Found this, if you open it up it will translate into English. It is the legislation document that the Hellenic motorhome club refer to. I am still confused, as does the mean that it over rides the January legislation on the complete ban of motorhomes on beaches , shores, forests, private tavernas without licence etc.

LAW NO. 5209/2025​

Government Gazette 100/A/13-6-2025​

Road Traffic Code and other provisions​

https://www.e-nomothesia.gr/kat-aytokinita/n-5209-2025.html


I Have picked out the bits that the Hellenic motorhome club high lighted.......

69. "Caravan": A Special Purpose Vehicle divided into:

(a) Motor caravan: A vehicle for the transport of persons with a place of accommodation comprising at least the following equipment:

aa) seats and table (the table can be designed in such a way that it can be easily removed), ab) sleeping space, which can be created by converting the seats, ag) kitchen area, ad) storage space.

The above equipment must be permanently fixed in the accommodation area.

b) Trailer caravan: A trailer vehicle that is designed for road use and provides mobile accommodation and appropriate equipment, such as the one mentioned above for the accommodation of passengers, when parked.

Article 38

Stop and Parking

1. Stopping and parking are permitted, provided that they do not cause danger or obstruction of traffic and if there are no relevant prohibitive signs or markings.


5. Outside residential areas, stopping or parking shall be permitted only in the areas allocated for this purpose or on road supports, if there are none, as close as possible to the right end of the road surface and parallel to its axis, unless this is prohibited.

6. Within residential areas, in places where parking or parking is allowed, drivers of vehicles or animals are obliged to place them as close as possible to the right edge of the roadway.

On one-way streets, stopping or parking is also allowed on the left side. If there is no sidewalk, drivers are obliged to leave a free space of at least one (1) meter wide for pedestrians to cross. In this case, it is allowed to install vertical tyres, flexible retractable rollers (boundary indicators) of par. 13 for the delimitation of the pedestrian crossing area.

In residential areas, it is prohibited to park trucks with a maximum permissible weight of more than three and a half (3.5) tons, buses, construction machinery, agricultural machinery, trailers, trailers, motorized caravans with a total length of more than seven meters and fifty centimeters (7.50 m) and boats, beyond twenty-four (24) continuous hours.

For parking in areas outside residential areas of trailers and motorized caravans, par. 5.


hope this helps some one. I'm still not sure!

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[Lenny HB]

But how long is Tam’s? Longer than 7.5?

Yep he is over 8m but read it wrong when I let him know.
It says over 7.5m only allowed 24 hours in a residential area, outside of residential areas you are OK. I don't think that will cause him any problems.

 

[125BEER]

Just another document to confirm MH overnight parking from change.org who managed the original petition.

Yamas

 

[Soycd]

Common sense seems to have prevailed as hoped.

 

[John Barrett]

Why would they do this? Their economy is so bad that the the latest batch of Euromoney was printed on Greaseproof paper!

 

[125BEER]

Why would they do this? Their economy is so bad that the the latest batch of Euromoney was printed on Greaseproof paper!

Drachma....get it right....please....

Yamas

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