Really interesting thanks, my Chausson is heading to 5 yo in May so Tracker needs renewing and don’t really rate the factory immob with alarm upgrade so been considering something different. If I’m not being too nosey could you give me a rough idea of Club members costs for what you have? Shalln’t be offended if you don’t want to say of course.Van Bitz will be fitting the Raptor package (Growler, Shadow & Non starter) to my new Pilote van in January. Yes, it's pricey but that is the only negative I could find when comparing it with the other systems on the market. Their communication, method of installation, product and vehicle knowledge were key in my decision making. Lastly, the Funsters discount really helps.