Where to throw your rubbish

[Tea Bag]

but poorer parts of northern Portugal are generally not good

Hi.
Our "Village for richer or poorer people. " 20 dwellings ?.over half way up Portugal is OK.. Most of the damages done by the Fires have been cleaned up.... However.... As you enter the village there are some large rocks,perched on one of these rocks is a Large white plastic Patio/sun area bed/seat that no longer works properly (Trust the SIL ). This WAS left at the Green bin,but some Wag (NO !! not a slight on our Portugues mates.) decided to put it up on the rock as a welcoming sign..AND A LAUGH!! to those who venture OFF the beaten track. I went back to the bin to reclaim a " G-Tech ?" push along small vac/brush to put at the side of it,but the Green bin had been emptied.
There is a shortage of "Skip rentals " Firms,so any biggish waste has to go to a recycling yard,some stuff they will not take,however,when then asking where to take it,he looked out the gate........... Its on an Industrial estate.... Loads of Green bins...... A Nod is as good as a wink to a Blind man...Result!!
Tea Bag Aka "The Conde Noble Kid "???

 

[Granjan]

My pet hate is careless recycling, not rinsing things out before it goes in the bin or removing bits that aren't recyclable, think its just lazy and not finding out what you should put where, we all need to play a part in things, I think if I buy something that is recyclable its my duty to make sure it gets where it should be and doesn't spoil the whole process of recycling. Its the least I can do.

 

[pappajohn]

not rinsing things out before it goes in the bin

Do you think they refill tins and bottles then put a new lid on?
Tins, bottles and jars are melted down and may not even become what they were in the last life.
The furnace sees to anything left in them and the labels.... Why wash them out?

 

[Granjan]

pappajohn I dont think you are right on that from what I have read.

 

[klaatu]

Our bags for recycling containers in France explicitly state that they should be emptied but not rinsed.

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[pappajohn]

pappajohn I dont think you are right on that from what I have read.

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Right or wrong ours don't get rinsed and never will.
Like smelting iron, the slag comes to the top and if they can't be bothered to remove it it's not my problem.

Our council resource center (the tip) hoard aluminium and glass until the price is high then sell it baled in vast quantities
That smacks of pure profiteering, which our council are notorious for, rather than saving the planet.

 

[Granjan]

Thats sad pappajohn, I wasn't trying to needle you or pick on you. I hope I will always be willing to try to do my bit, regardless of what others do. We all have to live with our own consciences and times change. I think half the time people don't actually even realise what they need to do, more could be done on TV to educate people. I hope someone is at least is educated by my post. I would be the first to admit I don't get everything right.

 

[busby]

Right or wrong ours don't get rinsed and never will.
Like smelting iron, the slag comes to the top and if they can't be bothered to remove it it's not my problem.

Our council resource center (the tip) hoard aluminium and glass until the price is high then sell it baled in vast quantities
That smacks of pure profiteering, which our council are notorious for, rather than saving the planet.

My dad did that when he was a Scrap Dealer,,it's called business..If it helps with Council finances it can only be a good thing..If they sold it when price were low,(Gordon Brown with the gold) they would be slagged off..BUSBY.

 

[Tea Bag]

Hi.
Just for the record on perhaps "Rubbish" in rural Northern Portugal. You could NOT have fires for burning rubbish etc during the summer months,this was enforced by a VERY big fine. This is perhaps why the places looked in a bit of a state. NOW. After these last fires,,, You have to ring the local council/district office,let them know your name and address and they will give you Permission to have a fire,on your own land. So,perhaps it does look a bit "Unkempt",but is this one reason why ?.
Being selfish... I would rather ALL Mo-homers kept away........... "Cos' its nice the way it is,rural England,30 years ago... Its MADE for "Old Farts" like me. Cue.... A couple of lines from the "Kerry Dances"
" Oh for one of those hours of Gladness
Gone alas,like our youth to...Soon."
Happy days.

Tea Bag.
PS. Two of the faults of drinking Conde Noble
1. It takes you back to Happy Days.
2. It takes you back to HAPPY DAYS !!!??

 

[PeteH]

I agree with your sentiment entirely. We were traveling on a trunk road recently and stopped at some temporary traffic lights, beside us, dangling in the hedgerow, was a soiled nappy! This was in quite a quiet part of the country miles from anywhere.

You where lucky, We where riding as a group some years back. my mate got one, full on the Face Visor!. We stopped the dirty cow and gave her and the driver a right bollocking!. They must have shit themselves, Five big Hairy Bikers!.

Most of the rubbish I see is from takeaways and drink cans which leads me to think that younger people are probably responsible. Contrast this with the Woke sentiment running through society that blames older people for contaminating the planet and ruining their future. We don't leave litter anywhere - period.
We live near fishing lakes and the bins are always overflowing with mixed waste left by fishermen. Now, if they can be bothered to carry it in and eat it why can't they carry it home and recycle the waste?

`Cos they are using the facility provided,? There are beaches near here where litter is endemic. Even our dog avoids it!.

Perhaps a lack of respect, seems to be a problem here with many that don’t give a toss about the law or the emergency services.

Amen, to that!

As for plastics... Cashier in Morrison yesterday made a point when he put our swede through the till... Why have they wrapped this in plastic?
It's not going to fall apart and you cut the skin off before cooking, they don't plastic wrap individual loose potatoes.

The plastic is there, because the "Great Unwashed" go to the loo, fiddle with the hair and makeup, NEVER wash their hands and then go and "feel" the fruit and veg"

So true because we havnt had decent visible policeing for the last 30 years..Can't remember the last time I saw a traffic cop...They were everywhere when I was trucking?? .BUSBY.

Traffic cops, are now VOSA (or whatever their title is this week) who issue "notices" and manage traffic. AND, I am informed, cannot actually make an arrest without the presence of a "proper" policeman?.

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[KiwiKampers]

While parked in a public car park in Northampton I spotted the truck emptying the rubbish bins, so I walked over with my small, neatly tied, plastic bag of rubbish from the motorhome and was just about to throw it into the back of the truck when the “operative” shouted at me to stop. “You can’t put that in there“ he says. “Why not?”, I ask. “You people have to use the landfill site. These bins are not for household waste.” I was incredulous. He really expected me to drive 15 miles to the tip to dispose of a small bag of rubbish. No wonder there’s a problem with litter in Britain. I dropped the bag into the rubbish bin he’d just emptied and walked away with him yelling at me that he would report me to the council.

 

[pappajohn]

My dad did that when he was a Scrap Dealer,,it's called business..If it helps with Council finances it can only be a good thing..If they sold it when price were low,(Gordon Brown with the gold) they would be slagged off..BUSBY.

Scarborough Council aren't in the scrap business.
They are hindering the environment by recycling when it's financially benifitial to them, not when it's needed.

 

[busby]

Scarborough Council aren't in the scrap business.
They are hindering the environment by recycling when it's financially benifitial to them, not when it's needed.

Them must also mean the rate payers..How does it hinder the environment? Surely it's the council's duty to get the best deal they can..BUSBY.

 

[Chris51]

While parked in a public car park in Northampton I spotted the truck emptying the rubbish bins, so I walked over with my small, neatly tied, plastic bag of rubbish from the motorhome and was just about to throw it into the back of the truck when the “operative” shouted at me to stop. “You can’t put that in there“ he says. “Why not?”, I ask. “You people have to use the landfill site. These bins are not for household waste.” I was incredulous. He really expected me to drive 15 miles to the tip to dispose of a small bag of rubbish. No wonder there’s a problem with litter in Britain. I dropped the bag into the rubbish bin he’d just emptied and walked away with him yelling at me that he would report me to the council.

Our local recycling centre charges for tyres/glass sealed units/soil and rubble etc---no wonder fly tipping is common --but try telling them that !

 

[Ingwe]

Littering seems to me to be a U.K. problem. Travelling France Belgium, Germany was so noticeable on our last trip it was litter free.
Perhaps a lack of respect, seems to be a problem here with many that don’t give a toss about the law or the emergency services.

We never fail to be disappointed, when in France, to come to a lovely spot only to find bags of rubbish fly tipped and often loads of used toilet paper. I don't think you can generalise and say it's a particularly English problem.

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[Larrynwin]

We never fail to be disappointed, when in France, to come to a lovely spot only to find bags of rubbish fly tipped and often loads of used toilet paper. I don't think you can generalise and say it's a particularly English problem.

You may well be right about France, it’s awhile since we ventured far in but I was mainly making a comparison with Belgium and Germany on our last visit.
I do believe we have a serious litter problem here probably out of a total lack of respect that exists for the environment our country and its laws.

 

[rosalan]

I am delighted to see the interest shown in the subject here but honestly think the only solution would be the political will to enforce the cleaning up of our environment but sadly I cannot yet see that being seen as politically advantageous.
On the topic of litter in Portugal:-
We parked with around thirty other vans around a sign saying no camping. On the nearby highway was an ocean of litter. After a while a bus stopped by the litter and people with tables and chairs got out and had a roadside picnic. Paper plates waste food and plastic cutlery were thrown down when they finished and the bus left. The meal stop seemed a regular occurrence and the people presumably were happy to sit with the mess. Not typical of Portugal but this really happened.

 

[busby]

We never fail to be disappointed, when in France, to come to a lovely spot only to find bags of rubbish fly tipped and often loads of used toilet paper. I don't think you can generalise and say it's a particularly English problem.

Have always been impressed by the lack of litter and rubbish in France..BUSBY.

 

[Captain Pants]

Have always been impressed by the lack of litter and rubbish in France..BUSBY.

Not sure why you need to put the French on a pedestal, they’re just like the rest of us, some respect the environment, some don’t. There are many places where civic pride is obvious, but equally there are places where the French clearly don’t give a toss. Exactly the same in the UK. Where I live in Cornwall there are regular volunteer events to clear the beach of (plastic) litter and to tidy sites where the local Council doesn’t spend much money these days. Apart from regular litter from McDonalds, KFC, Costa and dog owners hanging bags of shit in trees, it’s unusual to see accumulations of other forms of litter.

 

[Potty]

Right or wrong ours don't get rinsed and never will.
Like smelting iron, the slag comes to the top and if they can't be bothered to remove it it's not my problem.

Our council resource center (the tip) hoard aluminium and glass until the price is high then sell it baled in vast quantities
That smacks of pure profiteering, which our council are notorious for, rather than saving the planet.

Even before recycling was introduced always washed glass bottles and jars and tins before putting in the bin and wrapped food waste. It stops the bin smelling and stops it attracting rats, wasps and ants. Was very surprised to see instructions not rinse, squash or stack items on a recycling bin in La Rochelle and, yes, it did stink!

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[pappajohn]

Our local recycling centre charges for tyres/glass sealed units/soil and rubble etc---no wonder fly tipping is common --but try telling them that !

As do ours.... £3.50 per 20kg bag of rubble, one sheet (equivalent) of plasterboard or one small window.
Mirrors and picture glass is free.
When they were topping off the landfill area they were begging for it free of charge.

 

[Wild Brambles]

I bag up my rubbish, and I put it into the bins provided in lay-byes, supermarkets, shopping malls, and take-away restaurants. The councils will not allow me into recycling centres, so I have no other choice. Fortunately supermarkets such as the larger Sainsbury's have large recycling areas with categorised collection bins.

Unfortunately it seems to be the English who discard most of the litter, and this includes the insides of restaurants such as KFC and McDonalds. The immigrant work force from Europe seems to be a much tidier lot. This is a generalisation of course, and I blame it on our current snowflake teachers, and the parent created by the previous generation. It's one of the few things that makes me embarrassed to be English. Another thing is the foul language that has become fashionable.

 

[tonyidle]

foul language that has become fashionable.

It always was - just the most used expressions have changed. It's only words and irrelevant unless the intent is malicious rather than casually expressive. Much the same can be said of any use of language whether swearing or not. .

 

[thebriars]

My pet hate is careless recycling, not rinsing things out before it goes in the bin or removing bits that aren't recyclable, think its just lazy and not finding out what you should put where, we all need to play a part in things, I think if I buy something that is recyclable its my duty to make sure it gets where it should be and doesn't spoil the whole process of recycling. Its the least I can do.

We have just moved house to a neighbouring council, and recycling requirements are completely different. While you think it is lazy, spare a thought for those of us having to now decide what is recyclable using completely new criteria. Now, for instance, plastic bags don't go in the recycling they go in the general rubbish, but other plastics do go in the recycling. The Council website is very unclear about exactly which plastics are recyclable.

Your "duty" would be far better spent on lobbying governent to bring in a recycling standard throughout England, and encouraging more specialist firms to handle that recycling, rather than pointing the finger at some of us struggling with a hopeless system.

 

[thebriars]

Scarborough Council aren't in the scrap business.
They are hindering the environment by recycling when it's financially benifitial to them, not when it's needed.

Surely if scrap prices are low then this is a clear indication that that scrap is not needed. Can't see how this is hindering the environment.

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[thebriars]

Another thing is the foul language that has become fashionable.

You mean like calling someone ducky?

 

[thebriars]

double post

 

[Wild Brambles]

I've had a bit of a sea change, and I'm going to try to get rid of the contents of at least two of my garages. That's going to give me real problems as I can't go into the local recycling centres. I'm going to try for one of the free permits that one used to be able to get, but I'm not sure if they still provide them. It let you into the tip 12 times per year.

 

[pappajohn]

Surely if scrap prices are low then this is a clear indication that that scrap is not needed. Can't see how this is hindering the environment.

If its not needed it's not worth recycling then. We will end up with aluminium and glass mountains then have to figure out what to do with them.
If it isn't needed now the same or greater quantities won't be needed in the future so the stockpiles will increase.
The price will depend on supply as well as demand.

 

[Madcaravanner]

I find it amazing the amount of rubbish you see appear after a teenagers car has passed BUT once they get to 30 they suddenly become Eco-warriors (Grotbags excepted)

Education is the key but now-a-days the parents are so busy working (or claiming dole) they don't have time

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