Where are all the British?

[jessthedog]

you can feel the prejudice when around the English but I won’t loose any sleep over it

I read some nonsense on this site, but this takes the biscuit!

 

[dosser]

Stunning here in L Estartit . Take this anyday at this time if year. 🌧🌧

 

[Monty don]

We are down in Javier area and been to Bontera and other sites and there are a fair few Brits about
Sites are pretty busy though

Currently on Camping Mar Menor its nearly full about 10 brits on here
Very nice site

GB

 

[busby]

Last thing i want to see when i go abroad is a British van

Why? BUSBY.

 

[Foo Fighter]

We're at Silves in Portugal and there's very few Brit plated MoHo's around. A few Brits that we have met up with have residency either here or in Spain. That said the sites have been very full due to Morroco being shut apparently.

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[busby]

The bars and restaurants are really feeling it. The Germans are so bad but I've never noticed before how tight the Dutch are.

And the French,,BUSBY.

 

[Imala615]

Why? BUSBY.

See more than enough over here.

 

[nicholsong]

We're at Silves in Portugal and there's very few Brit plated MoHo's around. A few Brits that we have met up with have residency either here or in Spain. That said the sites have been very full due to Morroco being shut apparently.

If Morroco does not let ferries dock soon how long will it be before some of those Brits waiting to cross have to start heading back to UK to get out of Schengen before their 90 days are up, especially ones who sauntered down through France and Spain?

 

[EuroTrotters]

If you want to nitpick, the border is at 42.3N, Marbella is 36.3N. Split the difference and the halfway point is Valencia. QED Alicante is 'southern' Spain. Having said that, when I bought a place between Santa Pola and ALC airport, a photo in a local cafe had a picture of the town square covered in snow.

Our house in the snow 2017

 

[P Bentley]

So why do we let Europeans come to the UK for 180 days when we are restricted to 90 days, how did we agree to that , sod Brexit I hope EU countries/ governments lose plenty of money by the Brits staying away , unfortunately it's the ordinary people of the EU that are losing out financially.

the UK government didn't agree to anything. (they had the chance but blew it) It is what the EU deiced would happen and so it has.
The loss of the brits is no big deal to many European nations because the slack has been picked up by Europeans, certainly over the last couple of years during the C19 restrictions.
The ordinary people of Europe that I have spoken with over the last 3 or 4 years don't feel they are loosing out in any way whatsoever, in fact their usual reaction or conversation is tinged with pity at why nation would do that to themselves.
In the meantime I don't have to listen to stroppy brits at the super market check-out thinking that talking louder and slower English, pointing at random things, and saying "whats the matter with these people, why cant they speak english? " will get them served more efficiently, so there actually is a plus side to brexit after all. Gosh!

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[jessthedog]

the UK government didn't agree to anything. (they had the chance but blew it) It is what the EU deiced would happen and so it has.
The loss of the brits is no big deal to many European nations because the slack has been picked up by Europeans, certainly over the last couple of years during the C19 restrictions.
The ordinary people of Europe that I have spoken with over the last 3 or 4 years don't feel they are loosing out in any way whatsoever, in fact their usual reaction or conversation is tinged with pity at why nation would do that to themselves.
In the meantime I don't have to listen to stroppy brits at the super market check-out thinking that talking louder and slower English, pointing at random things, and saying "whats the matter with these people, why cant they speak english? " will get them served more efficiently, so there actually is a plus side to brexit after all. Gosh!

 

[gus-lopez]

But then I don’t understand how their business works

they are French.

So why do we let Europeans come to the UK for 180 days when we are restricted to 90 days, how did we agree to that ,

Because the Uk took the easy way out by not requiring people to regsiter as even if they failed to comply they could not be thrown out & also because many eu citizens came just for the summer crop picking & it suited the Uk as by offering 180 days they didn't have to do anything different by registering & deregistering people.
& as this gave eu citizens greater benefits than the Eu directive it was an easy way out.Trouble is they were stuck with it when leaving unless they wished to negotiate lesser time & they were more concerned with just leaving they signed the papers hoping to sort it later.
This was just all carried over into the withdrawal act.

, especially in Spain, with average temps of 12-18C, add in this years exceptional wind, rain etc...

Really ?? I was watching the news this morning where they are saying we will be experiencing drought again as this winter has been the driest for 16 years. Lack of rainfall = lack of reservoir filling.

the UK government didn't agree to anything. (they had the chance but blew it) It is what the EU deiced would happen and so it has.

It was what was in place prior to Brexit.

 

[Tigertom]

I cant imagine much worse than being charged 20/25 Euros a night on a hemmed in, long term campsite, near a beach in winter, especially in Spain, with average temps of 12-18C, add in this years exceptional wind, rain etc....that's not warm enough to warrant the time & cost for "Warmer Weather" IMHO.
Our average temp here over winter has been in SE England 12C,not even seen any snow yet, so 18C average is not warm enough for us to travel that far.
When Spring Summer comes with daytime temps at or above 22/23 then fair enough, get over there!, but not from what I have seen some poor buggers endure, especially Greece & Turkey this winter.
LES

Spain or SE England in the winter.
I’ll try and make my mind up whilst sat outside the Moho drinking a beer, sunning myself in Murcia.
.
Yep, each to their own

 

[Tony50]

they are French.

Because the Uk took the easy way out by not requiring people to regsiter as even if they failed to comply they could not be thrown out & also because many eu citizens came just for the summer crop picking & it suited the Uk as by offering 180 days they didn't have to do anything different by registering & deregistering people.
& as this gave eu citizens greater benefits than the Eu directive it was an easy way out.Trouble is they were stuck with it when leaving unless they wished to negotiate lesser time & they were more concerned with just leaving they signed the papers hoping to sort it later.
This was just all carried over into the withdrawal act.



Really ?? I was watching the news this morning where they are saying we will be experiencing drought again as this winter has been the driest for 16 years. Lack of rainfall = lack of reservoir filling.

It was what was in place prior to Brexit.

One wonders why at the last count over 200, 000 Spaniards live so far permanently in the UK !! Can't be such a bad run country can it ? or perhaps they like the weather or the people

 

[jongood]

You do need to remember that post brexit some of the brits are in spanish or french registered vehicles. Noticed a lot of rhd "spanish regd" vehicles around Benidorm in particular.

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[Mousy]

We are down in Javier area and been to Bontera and other sites and there are a fair few Brits about
Sites are pretty busy though

Currently on Camping Mar Menor its nearly full about 10 brits on here
Very nice site

GB

Is there enough to do there, cycling into town or walks on the beach etc for a week or two? We are thinking of heading down that way.

 

[sciac2001]

Apart from the lack of Brits, are there any French mohos touring in France at the moment? Or German? Or Dutch?

Loads in Andalucia, many of which tell me that they would normally be in Morocco.

 

[Jonno1103]

I have emailed, tweeted and spoke to Brittany ferries and asked why they have not increased capacity on the Spanish routes.

Al they say is that the logistics are difficult.

But if they got through those difficult logistics, surely they could recover some losses.

But then I don’t understand how their business works

They've just sold Cap Finistere, the Pont needs an annual dock visit. The recently arrived Salamanca is conducting berthing trials and will begin sailing in March. All of the Ferry companies are still using their winter timetables.

 

[EuroTrotters]

They've just sold Cap Finistere, the Pont needs an annual dock visit. The recently arrived Salamanca is conducting berthing trials and will begin sailing in March. All of the Ferry companies are still using their winter timetables.

Brittany Ferries Cap Finistere SOLD - Salamanca is almost ready & Fire aboard Cotentin.

Well sadly, it seem “The Cap” (cap Finistere ( not the captain)). Has been sold and will be leaving BF. Salamanca : Sister ship to Chinese built Galicia is almost ready. It sailed as do most vessels from that region through the Suez Canal. And re-fuelled in Singapore, Malta, Cartagena, Spain...

www.motorhomefun.co.uk

 

[EuroTrotters]

they are French.

Vraie!

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[Roger Owen]

We arrived in France in the 27th of January this year. Spent several days travelling through France and entered Spain on the 4th of February, down on the bottom of France near Perpignan. Been in Spain since and only seen 1 other Uk Motorhome. Where are you all, loads of French, German and Dutch motorhomes. All here is as usual, sunshine, cheap fuel, municipal parking places, friendly people, loads of space and quiet roads?

The 90 day crap might have something to do with it (excuse my french). We are waiting to get out to Spain in March having returned after the Autumn last.

 

[dosser]

Who cares who's here. Go enjoy yourself love your own life Oh Please!.

 

[EuroTrotters]

the UK government didn't agree to anything. (they had the chance but blew it) It is what the EU deiced would happen and so it has.
The loss of the brits is no big deal to many European nations because the slack has been picked up by Europeans, certainly over the last couple of years during the C19 restrictions.
The ordinary people of Europe that I have spoken with over the last 3 or 4 years don't feel they are loosing out in any way whatsoever, in fact their usual reaction or conversation is tinged with pity at why nation would do that to themselves.
In the meantime I don't have to listen to stroppy brits at the super market check-out thinking that talking louder and slower English, pointing at random things, and saying "whats the matter with these people, why cant they speak english? " will get them served more efficiently, so there actually is a plus side to brexit after all. Gosh!

I think you are generalisng there.

I speak basic French, a tiny bit of German and continue to learn Spainsh.

Our Children all have a smattering of some other language and our Grand Children 13, 9 and 5 are all learning Spanish.

Most of our expat Friends speak basic Spanish or at least try. Quite a few are fluent.

We dont all shout or speak louder. We don't need to, 40% of language is body language.

And from most of the People I have spoken with in Spain really miss the UK & NI.

A lot of the Spanish do not take too kindly to some Loud Germans, Rude French, Belgians and Dutch.

 

[EuroTrotters]

Why? BUSBY.

I know what he means

 

[Tony50]

I think you are generalisng there.

I speak basic French, a tiny bit of German and continue to learn Spainsh.

Our Children all have a smattering of some other language and our Grand Children 13, 9 and 5 are all learning Spanish.

Most of our expat Friends speak basic Spanish or at least try. Quite a few are fluent.

We dont all shout or speak louder. We don't need to, 40% of language is body language.

And from most of the People I have spoken with in Spain really miss the UK & NI.

A lot of the Spanish do not take too kindly to some Loud Germans, Rude French, Belgians and Dutch.

I agree I hope that the Spanish do not " Tar all people with the same Brush " .Which ever country we visit we try to respect the people, traditions, and the country.

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[Spriddler]

The bars and restaurants are really feeling it. The Germans are so bad but I've never noticed before how tight the Dutch are.

When I worked at Philips Electronics in Eindhoven a colleague informed me that copper wire was invented by two Dutchmen who found a 5 cent piece at the same time.

 

[Bubble 12]

We arrived in France in the 27th of January this year. Spent several days travelling through France and entered Spain on the 4th of February, down on the bottom of France near Perpignan. Been in Spain since and only seen 1 other Uk Motorhome. Where are you all, loads of French, German and Dutch motorhomes. All here is as usual, sunshine, cheap fuel, municipal parking places, friendly people, loads of space and quiet roads?

We're down in the Algarve enjoying the sunshine...

 

[P Bentley]

I think you are generalisng there.

Of course I am generalising, otherwise I would be typing for hours covering every nuance and differential in peoples behaviour when in my tiny bit of France .
It was not a personal attack or criticism on anyone so no need for others to personalise it.
The fact is that there is a proportion of travelling brits whose attitude and general behaviour towards others is appalling.
Thankfully there is also a significant proportion of those who embrace the local culture and behave accordingly wherever they are.
That is a "general" observation (because I haven't spoken to every individual in every country) based on my 16 years in this area (central Brittany) and 45 years travelling the world for living, and my conversations over the years with a huge array of nationalities around the globe, about the UK in general and its tourists.

 

[nicholsong]

When I worked at Philips Electronics in Eindhoven a colleague informed me that copper wire was invented by two Dutchmen who found a 5 cent piece at the same time.

Ah! the 'Evoluon' 'flying saucer' exhibition of Philips' history. The tour started off with a small display saying something like "In 1905 Philips had 20 employees, now 2 million, but still each is an individual" or somesuch HR gut-wrenching stuff. However we pilots were treated well by the PYE subsidiary management.

I was flying on the PYE Beech Queenair aircraft based in Cambridge just after Philips had taken over Pye. There were 5 Dutch executives that we flew, commuting each week from Eindhoven to Cambridge, so we saw a lot of nights in Eindhoven, where we stayed at a company flat used by lots of the Philips pilots from their then 8 aircraft fleet: fridge never had any food in it but always a bottle of Oude Genevre (Gin)

Geoff

 

[Spriddler]

...we saw a lot of nights in Eindhoven, where we stayed at a company flat used by lots of the Philips pilots from their then 8 aircraft fleet: fridge never had any food in it but always a bottle of Oude Genevre (Gin)

I was told that he whole of the Eindhoven area is owned/run by Philips who provide the housing, health, medical and recreation facilities.
They had a very open and democratic management style and apparently everyone knew what everyone else earned.
I used to lunch in the executive resto at H.O. and there was always a Union Flag at my table setting.
On each table there was a multi-layer sort of cake stand packed with every conceivable type of cigs and cigars and Oude Genevre and I once unwittingly made the terrible, terrible faux pas of asking if it was to give them Dutch courage.
On my way to the office each morning I'd have pickled herrings and a coffee at a stall by the station.

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