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[Tonks]

I see the old 'it's just a bit of soapy water' argument is being trotted out again.
We all know that it's not.
Grey waste has bits of food, leftover liquids from cooking or drinking and chemicals in it.

In terms of throwing grey water into hedges, that may be ok on SOME sites, where they ask you to do it or say that it's fine, and where it's managed. Or in some event situations such as described in P24.
It's not ok to just do it and assume it's fine, especially where there are grey disposal facilities on site.

It's especially not ok to let it run off onto your pitch as some do. I do not want to encourage vermin anywhere near my van, and that is what happens when food scraps etc are left lying underneath or nearby. And I wouldn't like to arrive on a pitch which has the residue from someone else's waste water soaked into it. Where a pitch could have an awning or a tent that's even more disgusting.

 

[Gellyneck]

I do not want to encourage vermin anywhere near my van,

That's not a very nice thing to say about the Funsters at your van door when you've just popped the top off your beer bottle!

 

[Brains]

If a gray water disposal point is provided, then it should be used.

Hedge dumping of gray water should only be used in 'occasional' camping pitches.

Leave no trace!

 

[V and B]

Why not ask the land owner/site Warden on arrival where they want you to dispose of the grey water, and comply. Problem solved and no one upset.

 

[HKF]

Did you ask for verification?

Sorry?

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[KiwiKampers]

In New Zealand, the NZ Motor Caravan Association (to which approximately 95% of motorhome and caravan owners belong) bans members from dumping grey waste anywhere other than a dump station. Anyone found breaking the rule is excluded from the club which is a major penalty considering the NZMCA operates a large number of the most popular sites around the country and has a big say in local and national government policy on camping.
Personally, I fail to see the problem with dumping grey waste around trees and shrubs, but then I’m no scientist and the NZMCA, Department of Conservation, Environment Agency, etc employ people who are and they make the rules so I think I should abide by them.
Incidentally, almost every town in NZ has a public dump station for grey and black waste which is free of charge and this makes wild camping so much easier.

 

[eddie]

Sorry?

Well we all know that’s utter tosh, and grey water on many Club CL’s is requested to be used to water the hedges I would have asked to be shown that rule

 

[busby]

Both sides are correct in this case.

If large sites allowed everyone to dump grey water into the hedges over the season the ground would be saturated and the "food residue" would go rancid, stink and attract flies. Not nice for late season users.

A few years back I ran the infrastructure side of a large (8000+) weekend camp on an agricultural showground. We were advised by both the showground staff and the local water company rep to dispose of grey water either by scattering in the hedgerows or into the "french drains". The Crows and Seagulls would take care of the food residue, water will pass back into the aquifers quicker and the soil will act as a filter. Difference between that and a large campsite was once we'd packed up a left it would be several weeks before anyone else was likely to do similar. Time for mother nature to clean up.

Finally, the way some people act when on site I'm not surprised wardens get grumpy. I certainly would at some of the behaviour I've witnessed.

Do people actually allow food waste to go down the narrow waste pipes in their vans? Unbelievable..I would not do that in my house..Just wipe the plates before washing..BUSBY

 

[TheBig1]

Well we all know that’s utter tosh, and grey water on many Club CL’s is requested to be used to water the hedges I would have asked to be shown that rule

It's there in black and white if a member requests it on an affected site. The environmental lobby is slowly strangling our way of camping

Just last week we got final judgement from the council and Natural England. A site we have used for decades, just along the road from Blue Pool and half a mile from Wytch farm has been permanently removed from our list of acceptable sites. All because of the nutrient neutrality issues. Ridiculous thing is we get banned from camping there because it could contaminate Poole harbour. A few months ago Wytch farm had a crude oil spill in that very same harbour. Will take years to clean up with soaps. That very same soap in our grey waste. Go figure that one out.

If we camp there we will be fined but the owners of the oil well get off Scotland free for environmental destruction

 

[TinaLes]

There is no food waste or grease in our Grey waste tank, as I have always adopted the method of wiping pots & plates and washing them outside the van in a separate wash bowl. The Grey waste from the tank is collected in a bucket, then disposed of as required by the site or in our case Rally Field, which is normally in a hedge or onto the grass.
Never had a smelly grey tank as its always emptied as we use it, as for a smelly pitch or hedgerow contaminated with food waste or worse, thats nothing a bucket of Bleach wouldn't sort out.
LES

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[Dolmen]

These are CAMC sites, you do as you are asked and everyone is happy, you want to do it your way, you go to a boutique campsite that caters for individual needs, do not understand why anyone expects the site to change their rules to suit them. You want to feed your waste to the hedge go to a site that gives you that option, there are plenty of them.

 

[jdk62]

Oh how the world is full of perfect puritan people.

How do I join?

 

[Dave and Jan]

If it’s all so harmless, not smelly, has no food in it etc, why not just let it drain on your pitch and save the effort of having to bucket it and carry it to the hedge? Won’t cause any issues treading it around and inside the van if it’s only a bit of water!

 

[poppycamper]

Oh how the world is full of perfect puritan people.

How do I join?

You either got it, or you aint

 

[Gellyneck]

You either got it, or you aint

and if you've got it you do like your predecessors and emigrate to New England.

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[Shrimp]

The environment agency allows waste water to be dumped away from any food source crop.

 

[dally]

What is the matter with people in general these days? From what the OP has written, the warden wasn't rude and explained why he asked the OP not to dump it in the hedge. I'm no big fan of wardens but this request seems reasonable. Just do as asked, it isn't a big ask after all.

 

[Tombola]

Encourages flies from flying into vans and around the site..to hedgerows..brilliant

 

[Morning Major]

Oh how the world is full of perfect puritan people.

How do I join?

Ah, perfection is in the eye of the beholder

 

[The Wino]

I think if it's their site and they ask not to dump it in the hedge that's fair enough. If anyone wants to avoid a warden asking them not to ask on arrival if it's allowed although I suspect a lot won't want to as they might get the answer they don't want!

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[Chasnam]

Do people actually allow food waste to go down the narrow waste pipes in their vans? Unbelievable..I would not do that in my house..Just wipe the plates before washing..BUSBY

We have a pre wash in the van our 2 dogs no residues on our plates before washing
Chasnam.

 

[Dave and Jan]

We have a pre wash in the van our 2 dogs no residues on our plates before washing
Chasnam.

I have a disabled brother in law. Years ago when he was much younger his mum asked him where his plate was after tea. In cupboard, he replied. Did you wash it she asked. Sweep cleaned it, he said. Sweep was the dog! No one knows how long he’d been doing it for!

 

[Garfields]

It is after all only soapy water...

Would you put your goldfish in it then?

 

[CJK]

In New Zealand, the NZ Motor Caravan Association (to which approximately 95% of motorhome and caravan owners belong) bans members from dumping grey waste anywhere other than a dump station. Anyone found breaking the rule is excluded from the club which is a major penalty considering the NZMCA operates a large number of the most popular sites around the country and has a big say in local and national government policy on camping.
Personally, I fail to see the problem with dumping grey waste around trees and shrubs, but then I’m no scientist and the NZMCA, Department of Conservation, Environment Agency, etc employ people who are and they make the rules so I think I should abide by them.
Incidentally, almost every town in NZ has a public dump station for grey and black waste which is free of charge and this makes wild camping so much easier.

You’ve hit the nail on the head Kiwi. Over there we have options for easy waste disposal. Same when we go to Germany and France. Not so here. Putting bath or shower water on your garden is a world away from chucking your nasty greasy old washing up water into the same bit of hedge. It’s the same when you pee in your garden; you don’t pee in the same place, do you? Or maybe that wasn’t such a good example…

 

[poppycamper]

Would you put your goldfish in it then?

Don't have goldfish!!

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[HKF]

Well we all know that’s utter tosh, and grey water on many Club CL’s is requested to be used to water the hedges I would have asked to be shown that rule

I wasn't there. I'm not the OP

 

[eddie]

I wasn't there. I'm not the OP

 

[Garfields]

Don't have goldfish!!

Is that because you put them in the gray water?
More than 99% of the time dumping gray water in a hedge or whatever makes no impact and at times of drought could well be a benefit.
Doing it on a site without prior permission is still not on.

 

[Northernraider]

Soooo presumably flies are not attracted to wastemasters etc Or dog walking areas, or bins......

Or wardens with shite roond their lips

 

[poppycamper]

Is that because you put them in the gray water?
More than 99% of the time dumping gray water in a hedge or whatever makes no impact and at times of drought could well be a benefit.
Doing it on a site without prior permission

Is that because you put them in the gray water?

Nope it's because.... maybe you missed it first time.... I don't have any.

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