Warner Shows is next company to join the rip off culture

The market will decide either Warners will continue to fill shows or people will stop going and someone else will come up with a different format maybe more like an autojumble without the evening stuff. If anyone thinks it's an easy way to make money why not start up a competitor or find out where Warners shares are traded and buy some?. I'm my experience in other fields lots complain about what others do and arrange but when someone says good idea why don't you organise it they go quiet.
 
phase3begins said:
It seems that the conventional definition of ‘rip off’ has evolved into ‘any price increase that I don’t like is due to greed from the supplier, even if I don’t know the business drivers behind the increase’
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It's always been like that. They're the same people who go on about rip off Britain but think the job they worked in was underpaid
 
Out of interest what is the average cost of a cl/cs site now ? Do they have bars, entertainment etc so no need to drink and drive and able to meet more mates. How much do you think a show should charge ?
 
We’ve never had the need or inclination to ever go to a show.
Or stop on a huge campsite come to think of it .
 
It's been a lean time for a lot of companies and now with dick head putin the economic situation is going to get a lot worse. As prices go up lots of unscrupulous companies are jumping on the bandwagon an milking it for all it's worth.
The price of the piece of grass you might be parking on wont be costing them hardly anything more than before but dealers and traders dont need big stands when they have no stock to shift and everybody buys online.
It's just a reorganisation of there income streams targeted at what they believe will create least resistance whilst maintaining their desired profit.

And by the way bars and catering are another income stream being sold off to the highest bidder.

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If you check the Lincoln show it's currently £70 ( without MHF discount) 4 night and then goes up to £90 if not pre-booked.
I doubt we will be going to any Warner shows this year
,Lincoln was nice to see everyone as a year end show but the show itself was a bit low key to say the least as were a few of the other from all reports.wirh diesel going towards £2 a litre ,LPG being harder to get and extra £5 is getting to be too much :(
 
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Was planning a day at Harrogate, but not much there by the look of the a-z so the 1 thing we where really interested in I've just ordered on line.
Postage £4.50 so staying home and sitting in the sun and saving diesel for next weekend.
 
Can we just have a few more SHOWERS for our £5 please
 
Went to our first Warner Show and highly unimpressed, so never again.

It was the supposedly show piece Peterborough motor home and caravan show which failed miserably for the following reasons:
Inadequate toilet and shower facilities (and poorly maintained)
No shop, had to walk off-site at least two miles
Grass not cut
Poor number of retailers in attendance
And the worst: security on voice mail during the night and therefore uncontactable. Had to sort an issue out with another van for myself (luckily without harm to me).
 
Jimbohorlicks said:
If you check the Lincoln show it's currently £70 ( without MHF discount) 4 night and then goes up to £90 if not pre-booked.
I doubt we will be going to any Warner shows this year
,Lincoln was nice to see everyone as a year end show but the show itself was a bit low key to say the least as were a few of the other from all reports.wirh diesel going towards £2 a litre ,LPG being harder to get and extra £5 is getting to be too much :(
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Yes, I appreciate the fact that dealer stock is low, but we now have zero incentive to spend the time - about an hour - at a show. An increasing number of stalls selling tat (yes, happens everywhere) and no desire to buy. The only reason we went to Lincoln was for the social side. Factor in a thirsty van and high fuel costs and we are limiting our geographical scope for a while

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If they had sent out emails stating that they had to raise their prices due to the unprecedented rise in energy costs (lecy and diesel) and that it has compromised their ability to operate, I'm sure most people would understand it and accept it?

No business at the moment can absorb the increase in running costs without having to pass some of the burden on to their customers. I don't think it's the businesses that should be held to account, but rather the group of people responsible for the governance of our economy.

As a small business, we've had to raise our prices. We're not trying to rip anyone off, we're trying to survive. I can't imagine the impact that large businesses must be feeling at the moment?
 
RobbyMClark said:
Was planning a day at Harrogate, but not much there by the look of the a-z so the 1 thing we where really interested in I've just ordered on line.
Postage £4.50 so staying home and sitting in the sun and saving diesel for next weekend.
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We were there for the day on Friday! Very disappointed & absolute chaos trying to get & and park. Eventually they had to open up a new parking area as the queues were jamming all the local roads! Once in, very limited in terms of vans & accessories although we did buy a set of cab mats!! We won’t be rushing back to a Warners Show!
 
I still want to know if its a fiver a night or £5 per booking
Realistically either way, in the overall scheme of things, I am neither too surprised or upset by it

We have been to countless shows but over the past 8 years or so it has only been to socialise with Funsters, and our purchases have been limited to a few small odds and sods such as dog food !

But yes, just like the bike show at the NEC, they kept on raising prices until they complained the attendance was dropping
And I agree re stall fees
The pricing is structured to make it VERY difficult for a small operator to warrant attending, and the majority of visitors do not go to but a van, but accessories

I doubt we will attend any shows this year but go to Funster meets instead
With fuel ( here ) now at £8,20 a gallon we will proly only look at meets within, say, 100 miles

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RichardB said:
We hate to be the next company to announce a price increase, but sadly, we find ourselves with no choice.



Back in the summer of 2020, a temporary VAT relief was introduced to help tourism, hospitality and holiday accommodation businesses severely affected by the coronavirus pandemic. This has been gradually transitioning back to the standard rate and from 1st April 2022 VAT will revert back to 20%.



This coupled with huge cost increases and an industry still struggling for stock will therefore see the cost of a camping pitch increase by £5 on all Warners Shows from the same date. We need to do this to ensure we can continue to deliver the quality you expect from Warners Shows.



If you're yet to finalise making your summer plans, then make sure you've booked your pitches with us by Thursday 31st March - every little helps!
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I think you will find that when vat was cut most companies did not lower the vat they charged but kept it the same
 
StanandShirley said:
Have wrote to Warners three times saying they are killing off the shows, the cost to the smaller stall holders have stopped them from coming. Meeting friends from the different clubs is a big thing for us but I’m afraid no more shows for us. For those who are going to the shows we wish them well
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Unfortunately it’s actually the social side of the outside shows that have been a big contributor to the reasons the smaller stall holders stopped going ⚠️
Many that I spoke to said they just saw the same old faces dropping by their stalls for a chat , no interest in purchasing anything.
You can’t expect any business to continue with that .
Maybe the shows have concentrated too much on being social events .
 
Basildog said:
Unfortunately it’s actually the social side of the outside shows that have been a big contributor to the reasons the smaller stall holders stopped going ⚠️
Many that I spoke to said they just saw the same old faces dropping by their stalls for a chat , no interest in purchasing anything.
You can’t expect any business to continue with that .
Maybe the shows have concentrated too much on being social events .
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I think its changing times. It used to be that you went to shows to see the latest thing but these days you see them on forum sites or You Tube. There also used to be a lot of deals for cash but these days everything is card. Its not just motorhome shows that are being hit, the world is moving on.

Show organiser are between a rock and a hard place; they need to put fees up to cover the additional costs that have steadily grown over the years but then they will get less stands and fewer visitors year on year.
 
Harrogate motorhomer said:
Just another bunch who think they can further exploit the increased interest in motor homes. I suggest we send them a message and vote with our wallets.
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Probably not, we now have inflation and everything is going to cost more particularly energy costs. Warners cannot escape this reality so £5 is bout the cost of a beer and less than two coffee’s.
 
Jaws said:
I still want to know if its a fiver a night or £5 per booking
Realistically either way, in the overall scheme of things, I am neither too surprised or upset by it

We have been to countless shows but over the past 8 years or so it has only been to socialise with Funsters, and our purchases have been limited to a few small odds and sods such as dog food !

But yes, just like the bike show at the NEC, they kept on raising prices until they complained the attendance was dropping
And I agree re stall fees
The pricing is structured to make it VERY difficult for a small operator to warrant attending, and the majority of visitors do not go to but a van, but accessories

I doubt we will attend any shows this year but go to Funster meets instead
With fuel ( here ) now at £8,20 a gallon we will proly only look at meets within, say, 100 miles
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£8.20 a gallon, I can still remember my dad asking the pump attendant to put a 10 bobs worth in.
 
Coolcats said:
Probably not, we now have inflation and everything is going to cost more particularly energy costs. Warners cannot escape this reality so £5 is bout the cost of a beer and less than two coffee’s.
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2 coffees! You could get a life (death) insurance policy for that. 😄
 
I have never ever been to a show so I don’t know what there all about.
I have found a lot more information here on the forum .

any thing I wanted to know or share with other members is here.

new tech others on the forum have seen it or mentioned it. So if I have been interested all I have had to do is ask.
and all for free.. what more an a motor homer want.

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Minxy said:
2 coffees! You could get a life (death) insurance policy for that. 😄
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Yup my Mum had a penny life insurance policy and that paid out well and back in those days a certificate was a piece of artwork.
 
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Jim said:
Accusing a company of ripping the public off is easy to do. But it's often claimed when people have no idea about the company's overhead? Only when we know those numbers, could we claim to be being ripped off.

When the costs of provision rise; prices to the public will go up, but the company might actually earn less, is that a rip-off?
What if prices need to rise just to keep earning the same or a modest rise? Is that a rip-off?

Yes, we can moan about show price rises, but are we being ripped off? The way things are going with prices rising everywhere, I doubt it.
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Unless we are being ripped off everywhere ? I feel this maybe the case .
 

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