Village is doomed, wanna buy really cheap houses with sea views?

[MyrtleGuru]

Large Tracts of Holland are several metres below sea level?. In the UK it`s usual issue, we dont invest in infrastructure proper, just expensive "toy" projects to keep the "Fat Cats" in new BMW`s.

Interesting that Withernsea got a £3m grant from the EU to help with reinforcing the defences, but the people in that neck of the woods still voted massively for Brexit...

 

[Spriddler]

People also buy houses near airports and are surprised at the noise.

 

[MattR]

As I have always said climate change began about 10000 years ago as we came slowly out of the last ice age,,wonder what the so called experts would have blamed it on back then.BUSBY, ??

How about doing a little research to find out what caused those changes and why most climate scientists report that humans are accelerating climate change.

 

[mitzimad]

at school in the 600s we were told that great britain was tilting on a center axis roughly along the pennines east coast sinking and west coast rising obviously this doesnt work anymore with the green agenda

 

[violet]

It seems that Norfolk and the area around the Wash will suffer most. The projection map for 2050 show the land up to Cambridge to be under water, and there's a lot of red on the east Norfolk coast, with riverside areas of Norwich affected as well. I won't be buying a property anyway near these areas. Apropos seaside properties with wonderful views we lived on the coast in Ayrshire with amazing views of Arran and further, nothing between us and the beach. Magnificent!

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[PeteH]

Interesting that Withernsea got a £3m grant from the EU to help with reinforcing the defences, but the people in that neck of the woods still voted massively for Brexit...

Ah! yes .06% of the daily UK contribution aproximately.

 

[Dorwyn]

As a boy I spent many happy weeks each summer playing by the sea at Ulrome. Is it still there?

 

[TheBig1]

there have been loads of buildings torn down in the bournemouth area before they fell off the cliffs onto the beaches below. But it gets hushed up because of the risk to tourism

about 20 years ago we lived by the quay and river in Christchurch. It was a lovely bungalow, but a high tides the garden was flooded. It wasn't even in the front row of properties and those nearer had it worse. The county council and environment agency plowed in millions of pounds on a flood wall and sealed gates, but the whole area is at great risk of flooding still. Insurance must cost a huge amount now, because it wasn't cheap back then

 

[busby]

at school in the 600s we were told that great britain was tilting on a center axis roughly along the pennines east coast sinking and west coast rising obviously this doesnt work anymore with the green agenda

We were taught exactly the same..But can you trust Experts,,700 years ago they believed the world was flat although sailors told them different,,When steam trains appeared the experts said going above 20 mph would kill humans,,in the 50s a certain Mr Beecham decided we didn't need branch lines or The Gt Central Railway,,a little later the Experts stated oil was the future and we scrapped trams and trolley busses..90s experts told us diesel not petrol was the future now it's back to what we used years ago Electricity.and then of course we now have those Smart motorways, another idea by an expert who has probably never driven 50 miles in his or her life..Never believe an EXPERT.BUSBY.

 

[MattR]

at school in the 600s we were told that great britain was tilting on a center axis roughly along the pennines east coast sinking and west coast rising obviously this doesnt work anymore with the green agenda

Why would you think that it doesn't work any more?

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[MattR]

Duplicate post

 

[Ivory55]

It seems that Norfolk and the area around the Wash will suffer most. The projection map for 2050 show the land up to Cambridge to be under water, and there's a lot of red on the east Norfolk coast, with riverside areas of Norwich affected as well. I won't be buying a property anyway near these areas. Apropos seaside properties with wonderful views we lived on the coast in Ayrshire with amazing views of Arran and further, nothing between us and the beach. Magnificent!

I will be dead or dementia by then so nothing to worry about. Haha

 

[Jimbohorlicks]

at school in the 600s we were told that great britain was tilting on a center axis roughly along the pennines east coast sinking and west coast rising obviously this doesnt work anymore with the green agenda

There can't have been that many schools back then. It was also believed that the earth was flat.

 

[DJT]

Been happening for hundreds of years especially on the East Coast..Remember UK was joined to mainland Europe once..BUSBY.

Then along came Brexit !! ????

 

[ambulancekidd]

at school in the 600s we were told that great britain was tilting on a center axis roughly along the pennines east coast sinking and west coast rising obviously this doesnt work anymore with the green agenda

We now know a bit more of what is happening to Great Britain, the weight of the ice on Scotland pushed the earths mantle down, the land is now springing back up.
Liken it to a half deflated air mattress with someone sitting on the top, that person now gets off the mattress & the top end springs back whilst the bottom end sinks, England being the bottom end.
So as a boy growing up on the beautiful Ayrshire coast I used to wonder why the cliffs at The Heads of Ayr were so far back from the sea.

My last house had uninterrupted views of Arran but was close to the beach, I moved away inland & considerably uphill, I just didn't fancy taking my chances with the sea.

Never believe an EXPERT.BUSBY.

Can I ask if you believe that the polar ice caps are melting?
Top a glass up with water, pop in a few ice cubes until the water is only just below the top of the glass, allow the ice to melt & see what happens, that'll be the same thing which is happening to our planet.

Your quite correct, coastal erosion is perfectly natural but, if you've ever sailed up the east coast of England, you'll have noticed that the place is as flat as a witches tit, now add mankind's actions & you have a recipe for disaster.

I don't have any answers to this conundrum but, if I had children, I'd be very worried for their future.
Not breeding is the greenest thing me or Hazel Mrsambulancekidd have ever done.

So I carry on eating red meat & using dairy products, when we die our genes die with us, perfect.

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[busby]

We now know a bit more of what is happening to Great Britain, the weight of the ice on Scotland pushed the earths mantle down, the land is now springing back up.
Liken it to a half deflated air mattress with someone sitting on the top, that person now gets off the mattress & the top end springs back whilst the bottom end sinks, England being the bottom end.
So as a boy growing up on the beautiful Ayrshire coast I used to wonder why the cliffs at The Heads of Ayr were so far back from the sea.

My last house had uninterrupted views of Arran but was close to the beach, I moved away inland & considerably uphill, I just didn't fancy taking my chances with the sea.

Can I ask if you believe that the polar ice caps are melting?
Top a glass up with water, pop in a few ice cubes until the water is only just below the top of the glass, allow the ice to melt & see what happens, that'll be the same thing which is happening to our planet.

Your quite correct, coastal erosion is perfectly natural but, if you've ever sailed up the east coast of England, you'll have noticed that the place is as flat as a witches tit, now add mankind's actions & you have a recipe for disaster.

I don't have any answers to this conundrum but, if I had children, I'd be very worried for their future.
Not breeding is the greenest thing me or Hazel Mrsambulancekidd have ever done.

So I carry on eating red meat & using dairy products, when we die our genes die with us, perfect.

You would not need to be an Expert to know the ice caps are reducing,,the Planet is warming up but i doubt it's our actions because it's been happening this time for 10000 years.But of course it has happened many times before,,We have had many ice ages in the History of the planet and human activity could not have cause the previous ones.BUSBY.

 

[Wildge]

I imagine folk living in Derbyshire can be fairly complacent (until all the displaced people from coastal homes start to camp on their driveway).
Gordon

Not being complacent just stating a fact and as we have plenty of space in Derbyshire displaced people would be most welcome.BUSBY.

Yes they can all help with the bailing of water when we're all floating around in the underground mine shafts !

 

[MattR]

You would not need to be an Expert to know the ice caps are reducing,,the Planet is warming up but i doubt it's our actions because it's been happening this time for 10000 years.But of course it has happened many times before,,We have had many ice ages in the History of the planet and human activity could not have cause the previous ones.BUSBY.

Do your doubts trump the reports from climate scientists?

 

[Silver-Fox]

Interesting that Withernsea got a £3m grant from the EU to help with reinforcing the defences, but the people in that neck of the woods still voted massively for Brexit...

Ahh that would have been returning our money anyway ??

 

[Silver-Fox]

I do wonder why people throw millions at houses in Sandbanks that must be close to sinking ?

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[Rapido925M]

Top a glass up with water, pop in a few ice cubes until the water is only just below the top of the glass, allow the ice to melt & see what happens, that'll be the same thing which is happening to our planet.

Nice thought but unfortunately incorrect.

Archimedes, quite some time before Climate Change or Brexit, stated that an object floats if it displaces its own weight of fluid. As the ice melts the water level stays the same.

HOWEVER, if the ice is sitting on LAND, as it melts and runs into the sea, the sea levels rise. Even if the ice simply slips into the sea, the resulting sea level will be higher than it was.

Obviously it is just a small amount every day and the daily rise is imperceptible but over time it is happening. Many of us will have seen glaciers in the Alps and elsewhere, often accompanied by pictures showing how they have shrunk. When sunlight shines on the Earth it reflects some of it (albedo) but as the area of white decreases, the amount of sunlight reflected also decreases and the Earth warms up, melting more ice. That is one of the reasons the effects are accelerating and why we need to act NOW.

I have no doubt that Climate Change is happening and I have no doubt that sea levels are rising. Combine that with the south-east coast sinking and I am confident that things will get bad in my lifetime but more importantly, in the lifetime of my grandchildren.

Some folk may state that they don't believe experts and that humankind is not a major factor in accelerating these effects. But what if they're wrong? Would it be that difficult to make a few little changes to their lifestyle "just in case"? Or should we just accept an "I'm alright" attitude?

Gordon

 

[EuroTrotters]

Large Tracts of Holland are several metres below sea level?. In the UK it`s usual issue, we dont invest in infrastructure proper, just expensive "toy" projects to keep the "Fat Cats" in new BMW`s.

Zeland or Zealand as a prime example.

Same as Kinderdijk where we have camped

 

[autorouter]

5 miles plus since Roman times, imagine that in land area.

Swings and roundabouts. In Roman times Chester was a sea port.

 

[ambulancekidd]

Swings and roundabouts. In Roman times Chester was a sea port.

Trouble is that we're on the swings & the roundabout at the same time!

Area's silting up isn't the same as sea levels falling.

 

[busby]

Do your doubts trump the reports from climate scientists?

Funny enough i have just been listening to a geologist on Portilos railway program in Alaska.It appears the Alaskan glaciers started retreating dramatically in 1880,,way before the expansion of fossil fuels and being caused without any influence from human beings..As she said main cause has to be solar activity which has always affected the world's climate and temperatures.BUSBY.

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[ShaKen]

Funny enough i have just been listening to a geologist on Portilos railway program in Alaska.It appears the Alaskan glaciers started retreating dramatically in 1880,,way before the expansion of fossil fuels and being caused without any influence from human beings..As she said main cause has to be solar activity which has always affected the world's climate and temperatures.BUSBY.

I think (almost) everyone agrees that the World is warming up - and (almost) everyone agrees that it has happened many times before and is most likely cyclical.

The issue that the many, many considered and educated people have stated is not that it is warming up again, but that the RATE of change has never been seen going back more than 10,000 years, and it is continuing to accelerate.

Yes, it’s not solely mans fault that it is getting warmer (as many nae sayers like to point out), BUT the combination of a cyclical increase in temperature coupled with increased greenhouses gases produced by mankind is having a dramatic effect and accelerating the rise in temperatures which has a dramatic impact on weather as well as the worlds Flora and Fauna’s ability to react to that rapid change.

It’s all very well saying “Ah, but it happened before, so we don’t need to worry” - but mankind wasn’t around then to feel the consequences of the raised temperatures and the dramatically different weather systems and impact on climate.

And who’s going to stick their hand up and say “....and all the plastic in the oceans is popcock too; it’s happened before and it did the world no harm the last time” - of course all the experts around the world are lying about that too - aren’t they?

 

[Brains]

busby
Lets put it this way.
Would you buy a house that was 1 foot above current sea level ?

 

[Langtoftlad]

I imagine folk living in Derbyshire can be fairly complacent (until all the displaced people from coastal homes start to camp on their driveway).

Gordon

I seem to recall when going up Mam Tor something about it being the ocean floor a few [quite a few] years ago... Winnats Pass under a tropical sea... who's to say that it won't be like that again?

 

[Brains]

I seem to recall when going up Mam Tor something about it being the ocean floor a few [quite a few] years ago... Winnats Pass under a tropical sea... who's to say that it won't be like that again?

It will be, but not for 'some' time
The top of Everest was also at the bottom of a deep sea 'recently' in geological terms.

Our planet, unlike most, has tectonic plate replacement.
Which means every few billion years nearly all of the planet surface gets recycled.
The ultimate 'green machine'!

 

[MattR]

Funny enough i have just been listening to a geologist on Portilos railway program in Alaska.It appears the Alaskan glaciers started retreating dramatically in 1880,,way before the expansion of fossil fuels and being caused without any influence from human beings..As she said main cause has to be solar activity which has always affected the world's climate and temperatures.BUSBY.

The last "little" ice age ended around 1850 and the climate warmed up a little after that, causing some glaciers to retreat. There are several proposed reasons for that cool period which lasted around 500 years including variations in solar output, shifts in the earth's tilt and volcanic activities.

The rate of change in global temperature over the last 50 years or so does not coincide with those events or if they have occurred, their impact is not regarded as having been significantly strong to made changes to the global temperature at the level they occurred at. The change does coincide with the rapid rise in the emissions of greenhouse gasses over that time.

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