Vehicles used for habitation.

[pappajohn]

There's an oldish caravan parked in a 3 hour parking restricted road near me.
It's been there a couple of weeks at least and the owner has removed the numberplate so it can't be traced.
It doesn't appear to be lived in.

Residents have to buy a parking permit so,
Mainly because of the lack of identification, In my opinion it's abandoned and I would have it towed and crushed.

 

[Wild Brambles]

Well I'm staying in one of the Queen's car parks tonight. I spoke to the guy in the support office, and he said it was fine, as long as I left by lunch time tomorrow, So I can get free WiFi from McDonalds or the mall version. That's a bit faster, but they chuck me off every 30 minutes.
Breakfast is served at 5am as well. McD has got a 90 minute limit, but the queen hasn't put a limit on the parking.

 

[SteveRallye]

Up till about 3 years ago an elderly chap was living in his car along the entry road to the Durham CC site ,apparantly he had been there for quite some time. I was told that the
emergancy sevices and the council workers (its alongside the main gritting depot) often took him food and drink.

 

[Wild Brambles]

I don't what it is about living in a van, but McD has just given me a free coffee, and it wasn't with the loyalty beans.

I don't know if I should be pleased or insulted. It isn't as if I am short of money, and I can't pay for it. I think on balance I'm just pleased that they let me sit here for hours on the computer.

 

[mitzimad]

I blame the trustafarians

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[tonyidle]

the owner has removed the numberplate so it can't be traced

A number plate is a pretty poor way to trace a caravan anyway. It doesn't need one & could have been towed there by anyone.

 

[GJH]

You may have opened a can of worms here , wait till GJH comes to put the facts about parking and camping

Why should I? The OP has nothing to do with the national legislation which so many people like to think they can ignore just because it does not suit them.
The OP makes it perfectly clear that a specific restriction has been introduced by the council concerned, a restriction which covers all vehicles not just caravans. Of course, we shouldn't really be surprised, after all this time, that people are unable to understand plain English (or pretend not to when it doesn't suit them).

 

[chaser]

Why should I? The OP has nothing to do with the national legislation which so many people like to think they can ignore just because it does not suit them.
The OP makes it perfectly clear that a specific restriction has been introduced by the council concerned, a restriction which covers all vehicles not just caravans. Of course, we shouldn't really be surprised, after all this time, that people are unable to understand plain English (or pretend not to when it doesn't suit them).

Just thought you could explain it better than anyone else

 

[GJH]

Just thought you could explain it better than anyone else

As you know, I have explained the national legislation countless times and still find that some don't understand plain facts (or choose not to).
I'm sick and tired of flogging a dead horse and that is why my web site is closing down at the end of the year. No doubt that will please those mentioned as they can pretend even more

 

[gus-lopez]

Up till about 3 years ago an elderly chap was living in his car along the entry road to the Durham CC site ,apparantly he had been there for quite some time. I was told that the
emergancy sevices and the council workers (its alongside the main gritting depot) often took him food and drink.

there's a bloke here who lives in a jeep, along with his alsation .Used to be on the dual carriageway layby but now around the supermarket petrol station. Been living in it as at least the last 5 years.

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[chaser]

As you know, I have explained the national legislation countless times and still find that some don't understand plain facts (or choose not to).
I'm sick and tired of flogging a dead horse and that is why my web site is closing down at the end of the year. No doubt that will please those mentioned as they can pretend even more

We seem to have a lot of new builders on at the moment that have no idea of the regs.
Either building or parking.

 

[Ivory55]

Unfortunately some abuse the area when they stay, rubbish and over staying their welcome, I'm sure we've all seen this in places. At the end of the day they, the man doesn't want us on their patch. We're staying in south Kent at the moment and everywhere we've been, visiting family, day out etc there are signs up saying no overnights, height barriers etc. We go regularly down to Dungerness and park up near the light house, walk the dog and have some lunch, in the van, watch the sun set and the lights come on before heading back to the cl we are staying on. Every time we go down there the amount of police driving back and forth is quite unbelivable, guessing it's to do with the amount of boats bringing people across that are keeping them on their toes. No chance of spending the night down there in the van as soon as it does get dark I'm sure they'll move you on.

We visit family in sellinge and they don't have room for our van on their drive, if we park on the road, the A20 we'll most likely have no mirrors left and the neibour complains she's can't see the view of the wall on the opposite side of the road.

Tenterden has no official motorhome parking so you risk getting a ticket from the warden because the van is outside of the marked bay so have to park up the road in another estate in front of someone else's house who gets up set.

Talk about some miserable people around, we've defiantly met a few of them over the last 10 weeks.

Think I'm ranting a little this morning, got out the end of the bed forwards instead of backwards so it's put me out of kilter

Yesterday on Kent news there was 40 illegal migrants picked up along there so I guess you’re right about the police looking out.

 

[Pekepal]

There is a very good site at Hawkinge Blackhorse Farm open all year and easy to get to Sellinge. We are not miserable in Kent but we do and have suffered from irresponsible people parking wherever it takes their fancy. Pleased to hear the local police are doing their job.

 

[PeteH]

There's an oldish caravan parked in a 3 hour parking restricted road near me.
It's been there a couple of weeks at least and the owner has removed the numberplate so it can't be traced.
It doesn't appear to be lived in.

Residents have to buy a parking permit so,
Mainly because of the lack of identification, In my opinion it's abandoned and I would have it towed and crushed.

Wont be the Pie Keys then, they usually set fire to them after gutting anything salvageable.

 

[movan]

And for an unfortunate few, with addictions and no other options, living in their vehicles can come at a terrible cost:

A gifted physicist reduced to living in his car: what killed Hamid Alamdari?

A gifted physicist reduced to living in his car: what killed Hamid Alamdari?

Hamid Farahi Alamdari 1962-2018: He was a charmer who spoke seven languages and claimed he had nearly worked with Stephen Hawking – but somehow Hamid ended up living in a Tesco car park and dying alone

www.theguardian.com

I need a sad emoji please.

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[GJH]

We seem to have a lot of new builders on at the moment that have no idea of the regs.
Either building or parking.

Makes a change from those who know exactly what the laws mean, because they have had them explained ad infinitum, but still pretend otherwise because it doesn't suit them

 

[PeteH]

Just a thought?.

Rules are for the guidance of wise men and the obedience of fools. ... Note: (also quoted as "...for the obedience of fools and the guidance of wise men.") In Reach for the Sky, this quote is attributed to Harry Day, the Royal Flying Corps First World War fighter ace.

 

[Dilbert]

You'll never get proper parking areas for camper vans if the authorities can't sort out overnight truck parking, I've heard the same old b******ks since getting my HGV in 1976..

 

[GJH]

Just a thought?.

Rules are for the guidance of wise men and the obedience of fools. ... Note: (also quoted as "...for the obedience of fools and the guidance of wise men.") In Reach for the Sky, this quote is attributed to Harry Day, the Royal Flying Corps First World War fighter ace.

As also pointed out several times, this was one of many people misquoting Solon for his own ends (i.e. an excuse).
By Solon's standards, wise men instinctively know what is right so only need guidance to help them along. Fools on the other hand need to be told.

 

[GJH]

You'll never get proper parking areas for camper vans if the authorities can't sort out overnight truck parking, I've heard the same old b******ks since getting my HGV in 1976..

Why should it be the job of "the authorities" to sort it out? Most road transport companies have their own depots and they have a trade body. If they were really bothered they would get together, through that trade body, to enable the depots to be used for overnight truck parking on a mutual self help basis.
That, when one thinks about it, would be the equivalent of the various clubs which set up caravan sites of various types which are the proper camping areas for the various types of caravan

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[shawn&emma]

There is a very good site at Hawkinge Blackhorse Farm open all year and easy to get to Sellinge. We are not miserable in Kent but we do and have suffered from irresponsible people parking wherever it takes their fancy. Pleased to hear the local police are doing their job.

It's not a site I'm looking for we are staying on a cl near Ashford the problem is parking when we visit other places.

I know a lot of friendly people but we have definitely met our fair share of miserable ones this last trip here. At the end of the day we've finally realised that people don't like our way of life, if you don't fit into the normal box your frowned upon. That's what we're coming to realise.

And not everyone is irresponsible in parking as in most situations it's a small minority spoiling it for the rest of us, you and us.

 

[Ivory55]

I agree it might only be a small % of people but it’s the local community that bears the cost and have to clean up the mess. This tends to make people view it differently.

 

[PeteH]

Why should it be the job of "the authorities" to sort it out? Most road transport companies have their own depots and they have a trade body. If they were really bothered they would get together, through that trade body, to enable the depots to be used for overnight truck parking on a mutual self help basis.
That, when one thinks about it, would be the equivalent of the various clubs which set up caravan sites of various types which are the proper camping areas for the various types of caravan

Why Not?. The "Authorities" are very good at "interfering" with other aspects of so called "freedoms". They commonly find the time, and put in great effort, to make pettifogging restrictions on what people can do on their OWN properties, (as I know to my cost, £££, when wanting to "self build"). Even with your example above, there ARE restrictions on numbers of vehicle allowed on many Haulage yards and some even have time scheduled movement orders too. I can see our L-A, who are notorious for this type of interfering, (But lax on moving a "Stealth" traveller site BTW.) getting very hot under the collar if all of a sudden an extra 20 Trucks turned up to "overnight park".

 

[Silver-Fox]

My feeling is it all started with the "right to buy". After that the social housing pool shrank markedly

Nothing wrong with the right to buy in my eyes.
It was the fact Councils were not allowed to spend the revenue on building more houses.

 

[Viennese]

As you know, I have explained the national legislation countless times and still find that some don't understand plain facts (or choose not to).
I'm sick and tired of flogging a dead horse and that is why my web site is closing down at the end of the year. No doubt that will please those mentioned as they can pretend even more

Sorry you are closing it Graham - it's such a useful resource.

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[Ivory55]

It’s funny that free parking and facilities are expected to be provided for hgv and motorhome, and yet hospital staff have to pay to park at the hospital. Funny old world.

 

[shawn&emma]

I'm rather have parking for free but if parking is available and I have to pay so be it. It's the fact of not finding suitable parking due to height restrictions size of bays etc.

Quiet agree that hospital staff shouldn't have to pay but where does it end, supermarket I used to work in wouldn't even allow staff to park in the car park even if they paid, had to park a fair distance away and walk in. Ended up moving to the town that I worked in so didn't have to use the car, surely that makes more sence to live where you work.

Speaking with hgv drivers from all over Europe most would be happy to pay a small price to park somewhere safe and use the facilities. In this country we just want to charge them a fortune to park, no wonder they are parked up everywhere.

 

[Ivory55]

What’s a small price ? If someone has to pay a few million to buy land etc to provide parking for hgv they are never going to get their money back on a pound a night parking. Money is the answer for most things in this country, s

 

[PeteH]

It’s funny that free parking and facilities are expected to be provided for hgv and motorhome, and yet hospital staff have to pay to park at the hospital. Funny old world.

So do patients and their visitors. We have a neighbour who`s hospital appointment overran last month and it cost her £10!!. You can`t factor that into a "state" pension!.

 

[Dilbert]

It's the authorities that wants a dog eat dog rate cutting road transport industry where contracts are won or lost over 5p a mile on the rate leading to depressed wages etc . I live in Southampton one of the busiest container ports in the country , no truck parking or facilities apart from rownhams services £30 approx per night and trucks getting a ticket for parking on the road while the sports field is full of travellers caravans

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