Today’s woe: “insufficient oil pressure”

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Started getting “oil pressure insufficient, stop engine etc”. This happens when I stop e.g.at Stop sign(!), but if I keep going everything still sounds OK. Advice please. Fiat Ducato 2013 2.3 150 bhp.
 
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Can anyone tell me how you get synthetic oil, what's it made of if it isn't oil?
It’s made by squeezing tree huggers and ‘just stop oil’ protesters. If you need to blend it you can add small amounts of ‘get off my land’ers to ensure it has the right amount of acid.
Can anyone tell me how you get synthetic oil, what's it made of if it isn't oil?
Fully synthetic oil is refined, distilled, and purified to a level that enables individual molecules within the oil to be tailored to meet the demands of modern engines. Due to this extensive process fully synthetic oil contains fewer impurities, is freer flowing and performs better under extreme temperatures than conventional mineral oil. Fully synthetic oil also degrades at a slower rate than mineral oil so continues to perform at its best for longer. Semi synthetic is a blend of Synthetic and regular mineral oil, it all comes out of the ground but fully synthetic is more processed.
 
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Well, I’m parked up at CAMC Cirencester. I did check the oil before we came away last weekend; this is the first trip, other than from storage and back visits nad a midwinter run or two, since we got home from France last July, when the campsite at Azay-Le-Rideau overcharge blew all my electrics. I have had an oil change since then and it is, of today, still clean though at the lower third of the normal dipstick range. I’m not going anywhere till tomorrow.
 
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Well, I’m parked up at CAMC Cirencester. I did check the oil before we came away last weekend; this is the first trip, other than from storage and back visits nad a midwinter run or two, since we got home from France last July, when the campsite at Azay-Le-Rideau overcharge blew all my electrics. I have had an oil change since then and it is, of today, still clean though at the lower third of the normal dipstick range. I’m not going anywhere till tomorrow.
That's the answer then (y) the little amount you have in is surging away from the sensor when braking .
Has it ever been full from the change.

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Don't folks check the dipstick anymore?
How can you post about a oil warning light without it being the first thing you would do.
It used to be an at least weekly occurrence, never mind waiting for lights.
Used to regularly check the oil with the dipstick but don't do it very often nowadays, every car I've had for a few years has a level display on startup. I only tend to use the dipstick when the bonnet is open for something else or when changing the oil.
 
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Used to regularly check the oil with the dipstick but don't do it very often nowadays, every car I've had for a few years has a level display on startup. I only tend to use the dipstick when the bonnet is open for something else or when changing the oil.
I use display as its so awkward with a 3 ft dipstick getting it out, wiping the trying to find the hole (ooh matron) then pulling out again.
 
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Had a Daimler DE36 a few decades back that had a button on the dash you could press and showed the oil level on a gauge ,back in fashion it would seem
 
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Had a Daimler DE36 a few decades back that had a button on the dash you could press and showed the oil level on a gauge ,back in fashion it would seem
Fairly certain our Rover P4 90 did the same. Guage normally showed oil pressure or temperature, press the plunge button in and it showed level whilst held. To be honest it was so long ago, I don't remember for certain and it may have been another car. 🤔

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Started getting “oil pressure insufficient, stop engine etc”. This happens when I stop e.g.at Stop sign(!), but if I keep going everything still sounds OK. Advice please. Fiat Ducato 2013 2.3 150 bhp.
I had this for a while and had it checked by Fiat Professional. They diagnosed a faulty oil level sensor and asked for £1300 to replace it. As the engine also had a dipstick, I could see the level was OK so didn't bother and tried to ignore it. I later found that if you switch the ignition on and before firing the engine, allowed the oil pressure sensor to get a reading and settle, the warning light never came on. Problem is if you do it all too quickly, and the warning light comes on, it will stay on for at least all of that day. Maybe not exactly your problem, but worth a try.
 
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My last two BMW M5’s didn’t even have a dip stick! Was very distressing TBH. 🤣
Have you received counseling on the NHS? If so, I hope they are charging it to Germany. 😄

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My last two BMW M5’s didn’t even have a dip stick! Was very distressing TBH. 🤣

When we bought Yvette's current 3 series BMW, I spend a good ten minutes looking for the dipstick and only realised it did not have one after doing a Google search for it's location.
This 3 series BMW has a ludicrous procedure for checking the oil, you first have to drive the car for at least 15 minute to get temperature into the engine, and then stop on a level surface to check the level in a menu on the dash, of course if you oil level was dangerously low you would have buggered the engine driving in the preceding 15 minutes. :doh: :ROFLMAO:
 
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In my early RAF days of driver training, it was P.O.W.E.R.

Petrol (fuel)
Oil
Water
Electrics
Rubber.

I once opened up the front grill of a DAF Tractor Unit searching for the oil dipstick, only to be told by a young whippersnapper full time driver that there wasn't one, ie, all the checks were done by the onboard digital dash display. :whatthe: ....... 🤷‍♂️
I was more familiar with Scanias and Volvos myself. ;)

Cheers,

Jock. :)
Hi.
Been there some years back at " Sparrows " When tasked to take a loaded New DAF XF out for a firm. Rang the night man as i did not want to wreck it and was told about the switch in the cab..... Me ? I like to see the mark on the " Oil Sword !! "
Tea Bag.
 
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Hi.
Been there some years back at " Sparrows " When tasked to take a loaded New DAF XF out for a firm. Rang the night man as i did not want to wreck it and was told about the switch in the cab..... Me ? I like to see the mark on the " Oil Sword !! "
Tea Bag.
Yep, you and me both. (y)

Cheers,

Jock. :)
 
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That's the answer then (y) the little amount you have in is surging away from the sensor when braking .
Has it ever been full from the change.
Why do you say "the little amount you have" when it's about a third of the way up the normal range when cold???

Engine oil expands when hot. The correct way to check the level is with the engine at normal running temperature, wait 15 mins after stopping to allow for drain back then dip the oil (or use the dash guage). You can of course do it cold but you need to take into account the expansion that occurs when hot.

The reading of a third of the way up could easily be half way up at normal running temperature. Either level would not concern me in any case.

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Why do you say "the little amount you have" when it's about a third of the way up the normal range when cold???

Engine oil expands when hot. The correct way to check the level is with the engine at normal running temperature, wait 15 mins after stopping to allow for drain back then dip the oil (or use the dash guage). You can of course do it cold but you need to take into account the expansion that occurs when hot.

The reading of a third of the way up could easily be half way up at normal running temperature. Either level would not concern me in any case.
Maybe not, but it looks as if it's concerning the electrical gubbins.
 
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Why do you say "the little amount you have" when it's about a third of the way up the normal range when cold???

Engine oil expands when hot. The correct way to check the level is with the engine at normal running temperature, wait 15 mins after stopping to allow for drain back then dip the oil (or use the dash guage). You can of course do it cold but you need to take into account the expansion that occurs when hot.

The reading of a third of the way up could easily be half way up at normal running temperature. Either level would not concern me in any case.
Those of us that have oil dipstick,
Yellow dipstick top oil level checked cold,
Red dipstick top oil checked hot.

That is generally the guidelines
 
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If your oil level is good then yes sensors need checking but the oil pump may have failed. It’s inside the sump. I am not familiar with the 2.3 Iveco engine (what yours is) but the job on the Peugeot/Citroen vans is pretty easy done with the engine in the van. Try running a diagnostic like Multiecuscan to identify sensor issues. Good luck and stop driving the van till you sort it out
 
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That's the answer then (y) the little amount you have in is surging away from the sensor when braking .
Has it ever been full from the change.
I am sure you are right. Whaddayaknow, obviously more than me! After an hour’s brisk walk to find a garage, a pint of Mr Castrol’s Best has extinguished the warning light.
Drove home safely with no alarms, sounded as sweet as ever.

I thought there was enough oil in but it needed more than was there, perhaps I misread it, a lesson learned. It’s a weird flexible long dipstick with cutouts to mark top and bottom, no nice coloured bits. And I still have half a litre to top up if necessary!

Thank you all for your help.

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Had similar problem last year...oil pressure warning light....not anything to do with contents in sump...dip and gauge showed sufficient....filter changed just before problem...
Diagnosis was Sensor....this was changed but light still on....pressure gauge used by mechanic showed correct pressure....
Light needed to be reset...having done that....no further problems..
I still wouldn't drive van initially and got recovery to take me to garage...
 
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Those of us that have oil dipstick,
Yellow dipstick top oil level checked cold,
Red dipstick top oil checked hot.

That is generally the guidelines
Well.....................I never knew that. :Eeek:

What's the old saying about every day being a school day? ;)

Cheers,

Jock. :)
 
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Those of us that have oil dipstick,
Yellow dipstick top oil level checked cold,
Red dipstick top oil checked hot.

That is generally the guidelines
Does that apply to all vehicles?

All the dip sticks I have recently seen are yellow and the manufacturers user manual states checking the oil at normal running temperature. So I am not sure......
 
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Does that apply to all vehicles?

All the dip sticks I have recently seen are yellow and the manufacturers user manual states checking the oil at normal running temperature. So I am not sure......
i dont know if every make uses this colour scheme but it was general practice in alot of vehicles.

of course the handbook trumps any other information (y)
 
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i dont know if every make uses this colour scheme but it was general practice in alot of vehicles.

of course the handbook trumps any other information (y)
The French do that on CCP Aires.

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