The resurrection of Doc, bringing a 20 year old neismann Bischoff Flair back to life after 12 years off road.

[TinaLes]

I’ve only got a double at the top blowing out did i aught to have the same at the bottom blowing in? I’m confused.

Nah, you only need the external fans at the top, as they draw the air up from the bottom over the cooling pipes and extract the warmed air out the top, like a radiator does.
LES

 

[Diabalo]

I’ve only got a double at the top blowing out did i aught to have the same at the bottom blowing in? I’m confused.

I'm the same and it works for my set up.

 

[MichaelT]

At the top in front of fins I think I had blowing on to fins.

Should be fitted at top blowing out so extracting the heat from the exchanger.

On ours it goes under the exchanger and blows up to the roof.

 

[Lenny HB]

Should be fitted at top blowing out so extracting the heat from the exchanger.

On ours it goes under the exchanger and blows up to the roof.

Read the posts again, not talking about external fans.

 

[MichaelT]

Read the posts again, not talking about external fans.

Sorry you're talking inside fridge my bad

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[funflair]

None that I know of. I’m sure if you go to a big meet and let it be known you would get a funsters or two to help you fit. Just make sure you have everything needed and ask before going
Edit if your F/F is working it’s not necessary to fit the fans

They are an option on the 10 series Dometic fridge/freezer, or they are/were on the Morelo price list, they fit Siemens or Bosch domestic compressor FF on a small inverter now.

EDIT and yes my comment is re external fans

 

[Terry]

They are an option on the 10 series Dometic fridge/freezer, or they are/were on the Morelo price list, they fit Siemens or Bosch domestic compressor FF on a small inverter now.

EDIT and yes my comment is re external fans

Hi Martin out of curiosity how much are they on the options list?

 

[funflair]

Hi Martin out of curiosity how much are they on the options list?

€190, they are specific for the 10 series and difficult to fit afterwards apparently.

 

[Northernraider]

I’ve only got a double at the top blowing out did i aught to have the same at the bottom blowing in? I’m confused.

Everyone I've ever seen just fit two fans in the top vent .

 

[Northernraider]

Good opportunity to scrap off and renew the paste behind the fins also, which needs doing after a few years as it dries out.
You can also buy those 12V temp controllers in their own self contained box enclosures, you need 2 of them one for the external fans, & one for the internal fan.
Then you can have fun and games setting up "The Sweet Spot" for them to turn on/off which takes some time to get right, depending on individual FF performance.
I cant find the exact ones we used but here is a similar one, with temp probe, below.

12V Temperature Controller Switch with Probe 20A Thermostat Control - Kunkune

Regulate temperatures 12V Temperature Controller Switch with Probe : Precision control for both heating and cooling applications.

kunkune.co.uk

LES

Yes I'm replacing the paste behind fins too

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[bigtwin]

The fans need fitting - one at the top dragging air out and one at the bottom blowing air up to maximise circulation/cooling

My question related to the internal fans and not the external fans.

I’ve only got a double at the top blowing out did i aught to have the same at the bottom blowing in? I’m confused.

You’re fine as you are.

Should be fitted at top blowing out so extracting the heat from the exchanger.

My question related to the internal fans and not the external fans.

Read the posts again, not talking about external fans.

Thank you.

Ian

 

[MichaelT]

€190, they are specific for the 10 series and difficult to fit afterwards apparently.

You can buy the dometic kit for about £90, it just plugs in.

 

[Lenny HB]

Everyone I've ever seen just fit two fans in the top vent .

Not easy with a roof vent.

So far it looks like my Series 10 is working fine without fans but only had a max of 34° but beer was nice & cold.

 

[MichaelT]

Not easy with a roof vent.

So far it looks like my Series 10 is working fine without fans but only had a max of 34° but beer was nice & cold.

That's cos you running it on lecky all the while

We had to turn.ours down to No2 when away a couple of weeks ago.

 

[Lenny HB]

That's cos you running it on lecky all the while

We had to turn.ours down to No2 when away a couple of weeks ago.

Been running most of the time on 3 a few days on 4 when it was 34°.

A bit of a shock, something Dometic makes that works.

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[Just smiffy]

Fans…. Some thing else for Tam to get the hump with when it goes wrong….

 

[bigtwin]

Fans…. Some thing else for Tam to get the hump with when it goes wrong….

I thought he already had loads of fans.

Ian

 

[Dutch 68]

I thought he already had loads of fans.

Ian

“Only Fans”

 

[Minxy]

“Only Fans”

Now there's an idea for making a bit of extra income!

 

[bigtwin]

Now there's an idea for making a bit of extra income!

Who, you or Tam?

Ian

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[Dutch 68]

Now there's an idea for making a bit of extra income!

He could work from home, no big investment needed, potentially large income, what’s not to like eh, already got the right stage name too,

 

[Minxy]

Who, you or Tam?

Ian

Not me ... I wouldn't know what to do with all the dosh I'd earn!

 

[WESTY66]

Everyone I've ever seen just fit two fans in the top vent .

Not me, 3 in the top pulling out, 2 in the bottom shoving in, paste reapplied, new door seal, jobs a good un I don’t have the skills to put a fan inside

 

[Northernraider]

Sometimes it's like the universe conspires against me. Or there's some divine intervention to stop me from having this van remapped.

So after the failed attempt last week I ordered the obd adapter cable that JockandRita had linked to off ebay... u had arranged to have remap Kings come to uncle Lenny HB address to do the remap on Wednesday... but after a think I thought that was maybe too soon and cable might not get here by then so I asked to change the remap day to Monday... the technician then contacted me saying Tuesday would be the day .. so I thought OK that'll do .

I ordered several other items on ebay last weekend and all have arrived bar the feckin adapter cable I need for this guy to do the remap.

No response from ebay seller and the tracking shows yodel ( the worst parcel company in the UK) have had it since Monday. So contacted them via there chat service this morning to see where it is and basically they haven't a clue .. its in their system somewhere but not at the local depot . And once they receive it they'll update the tracking.

If I cancel the remap less than 24 hours before the appointment I get no refund.
It's in remap kings terms ..

If I want to change the date now it would be the following week and I leave the UK a week on Tuesday.

And it's now Friday.

My only hope now is to buy another one on amazon ...and hope it can be here tomorrow.

I don't have an amazon account but uncle lenny does

 

[funflair]

Have you already established that the remap people don't have their own adapter ?

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[chaser]

Have you already established that the remap people don't have their own adapter ?

I just fail to understand why a company that specialise in this work hasn't got all the tools that are needed to do the job.
This is the second one.
Especially that the bit they haven't got is less than twenty quid.

 

[Northernraider]

Have you already established that the remap people don't have their own adapter ?

Yes I spoke with Simon the technician on Monday. He has a few adapters but he doesn't think he has one for iveco

I need one myself anyway

 

[scousebird]

Have you already established that the remap people don't have their own adapter ?

If they haven't, can they not order it from their supplier. Speak to them Tam, they may be able to help.

 

[Northernraider]

I just fail to understand why a company that specialise in this work hasn't got all the tools that are needed to do the job.
This is the second one.
Especially that the bit they haven't got is less than twenty quid.

Because most of the vehicles will have the standard obd2 socket I imagine . To be honest they were meant to be standardised from 2001 so this van should have a normal 16 pin obd port . But it doesn't.

 

[intokenny]

Order one from Amazon Tam, having 2 if the other turns up is a bonus. Blue may chew 1 of them!!!!

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