The Iconic tree at Sycamore Gap felled.

[MattR]

I still don't think that a professional tree feller did this but this guy has been questioned....

Massive chainsaw is wrapped up and taken away by police investigating Sycamore Gap Tree felling https://mol.im/a/12580957

 

[Gromett]

I still don't think that a professional tree feller did this but this guy has been questioned....

Massive chainsaw is wrapped up and taken away by police investigating Sycamore Gap Tree felling https://mol.im/a/12580957

I was half believing him until he said this;

'It makes it sound like me, doesn't it, because it was a good cut,' he said, referring to the culprit's handiwork. 'It was dark obviously but it was a lovely moonlit night... the cut was brilliant.

'When I say brilliant, you can tell a good lumberjack by the way he cuts a tree down. I haven't seen the cut obviously, but I have seen it on the computer.'

And seeing the picture.

I have watched a tonne of lumberjack videos on youtube and one thing all of them had in common was they all cut a wedge out, then a back cut was made towards the wedge.
This looks more like it was cut from two directions in a downward sloping direction to form a V? I am no expert so am happy to be educated but this looks crap to me?

Sooo. Back to the guys statement. He is supposed to be a lumberjack. If so why would you say a crap or mediocre cut was brilliant unless you did it yourself and have a high opinion of your own work.

NOW please note. I am not jumping to conclusions and saying he did it. But he is doing himself no favours...

 

[Gromett]

I just went back and watched a few. The V can have a slight downward slope on the bottom cut so that may well have been a good fell.

But he still didn't do himself any favours.

 

[Tombola]

I was half believing him until he said this;



And seeing the picture.
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I have watched a tonne of lumberjack videos on youtube and one thing all of them had in common was they all cut a wedge out, then a back cut was made towards the wedge.
This looks more like it was cut from two directions in a downward sloping direction to form a V? I am no expert so am happy to be educated but this looks crap to me?

Sooo. Back to the guys statement. He is supposed to be a lumberjack. If so why would you say a crap or mediocre cut was brilliant unless you did it yourself and have a high opinion of your own work.

NOW please note. I am not jumping to conclusions and saying he did it. But he is doing himself no favours...

He'd have been in a rush remember

 

[MattR]

I just went back and watched a few. The V can have a slight downward slope on the bottom cut so that may well have been a good fell.

But he still didn't do himself any favours.

I did my training 30 years ago. I would have failed the course with a cut like the one used on the sycamore. It seems like the cut is more common now but it doesn't look good to me and I can't find any info suggesting why that cut is better than the traditional cut which has a step to reduce chances of the tree sliding back into the person felling the tree.

I wouldn't be commemding the sycamore cut to anyone..

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[Silver-Fox]

I love this site.

We’ve gone from condemnation for cutting the tree down to the quality of the cut.

At the end of the day the perpetrator completed what they set out to do.

One felled tree.

As for chucking all these Police resources at it, someone in charge needs to get their act together.

 

[Figaro]

On the odd occasion I've used a chainsaw as a complete amateur, the main problem is the weight of the tree compressing down on the blade and stopping it.
That tree must weigh tons, so whoever did it had the skill to avoid my errors.

It must be one sick person though to do that.

 

[Pausim]

As for chucking all these Police resources at it, someone in charge needs to get their act together.

They need to discover the motive. If as first speculated it is an attack on tourism by someone who resents it then it needs stamping down on hard. It might start with one tree but where does it go next? Destroy parts of Hadrians wall? Set fire to visitors cars and motorhomes in car parks? A very public attack on such a well known landmark demands a very public response by the authorities.

 

[Just smiffy]

I’m old school and would have used an axe…..

 

[chesterfield hooligan]

There's a new seedling been planted recently.

Sapling at Sycamore Gap removed by National Trust - BBC News

Kieran Chapman says he's "devastated" a sapling he planted near the much-loved felled tree has been removed.

www.bbc.co.uk

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[Tonks]

There's a new seedling been planted recently.

Sapling at Sycamore Gap removed by National Trust - BBC News

Kieran Chapman says he's "devastated" a sapling he planted near the much-loved felled tree has been removed.

www.bbc.co.uk

It's rather sad that the sapling has been removed.

 

[Stewart J]

Thought provoking.

 

[MattR]

It's rather sad that the sapling has been removed.

It was planted at the wrong time of year and possibly planted poorly. If it died, it would make the situation worse

 

[scotjimland]

a well intentioned but wrong thing to do ..

It's rather sad that the sapling has been removed.

 

[Silver-Fox]

They need to discover the motive. If as first speculated it is an attack on tourism by someone who resents it then it needs stamping down on hard. It might start with one tree but where does it go next? Destroy parts of Hadrians wall? Set fire to visitors cars and motorhomes in car parks? A very public attack on such a well known landmark demands a very public response by the authorities.

So the little old lady that gets robbed isn’t such a high priority then.

Or the guy that’s worked hard and gets his stuff nicked.

All is well here’s an incident number

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[Just smiffy]

So the little old lady that gets robbed isn’t such a high priority then.

Or the guy that’s worked hard and gets his stuff nicked.

All is well here’s an incident number

Yep… if I get robbed I’ll just say they cut a tree down in my back garden and I’ll have special branch round within 10 minutes….

 

[Pausim]

So the little old lady that gets robbed isn’t such a high priority then.

Or the guy that’s worked hard and gets his stuff nicked.

All is well here’s an incident number

I didn’t say or infer that in any of my posts, of course the other crimes should be followed up. I just said that such a public crime can not be ignored because it might encourage others to think they could get away with it, or worse. Please don’t put meaning into my post that is clearly not there.

 

[trophychap]

Many years ago one of the experts on Gardeners Question Time was asked "How far away from my house should I plant a Sycamore Tree" The answer given was something along the lines of at least fifty miles but preferably back In Canada. An introduced species not a native broadleaf tree!

Seems to me to be a lot of fuss about something the vast majority of the country has never seen but most people have an opinion about, then again most opinions are like bottoms we all have one.

Oh dear where was Swampy when he was needed?

 

[MattR]

Many years ago one of the experts on Gardeners Question Time was asked "How far away from my house should I plant a Sycamore Tree" The answer given was something along the lines of at least fifty miles but preferably back In Canada. An introduced species not a native broadleaf tree!

Seems to me to be a lot of fuss about something the vast majority of the country has never seen but most people have an opinion about, then again most opinions are like bottoms we all have one.

Oh dear where was Swampy when he was needed?

Sycamores aren't native but that tree had become iconic and was admired and appreciated by many people over 300 years. Millions of people had seen it in real life or on photos and its felling has caused a lot of upset. Shouldn't people be able to express their concern about this destruction?

 

[trophychap]

Can you point me to where I suggested people were not entitled to an opinion!

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[trophychap]

Sycamores aren't native but that tree had become iconic and was admired and appreciated by many people over 300 years. Millions of people had seen it in real life or on photos and its felling has caused a lot of upset. Shouldn't people be able to express their concern about this destruction?

Can you point me to the part where I said people were not entitled to have an opinion!

 

[jockaneezer]

Does anyone know if a Tree Preservation Order was in place on the sycamore ?
I know it's on English Heritage/National Trust land, but not having a TPO will have a big effect on any repercussions they can hand out to the perp ?

 

[TDub49]

Sycamores aren't native but that tree had become iconic and was admired and appreciated by many people over 300 years. Millions of people had seen it in real life or on photos and its felling has caused a lot of upset. Shouldn't people be able to express their concern about this destruction?

Sycamores may not be native to this island but they are native in Europe (rather than or as well as Canada . . .) I guess having been in this country since the 1500s (or possibly even earlier), it is, of course, an interloper. Still the good thing is, since sycamores have an average life of around 400yrs, this one at 300yrs+ this one didn't have that much longer to go . . . . .

 

[MattR]

Sycamores may not be native to this island but they are native in Europe (rather than or as well as Canada . . .) I guess having been in this country since the 1500s (or possibly even earlier), it is, of course, an interloper. Still the good thing is, since sycamores have an average life of around 400yrs, this one at 300yrs+ this one didn't have that much longer to go . . . . .

I think that most people would take little comfort in the suggestion that it only had around another 100 years of life left...

 

[TDub49]

I think that most people would take little comfort in the suggestion that it only had around another 100 years of life left...

I think they would - I certainly do - but it was an attempt at a little satirical dig at those posts along the lines of "it's only a tree, get over it".

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[chaser]

Personally I had never heard of this tree and think other millions hadn't either. So all it's done is make it even more famous.
And yeah it's just a tree that grow like weeds here and not even very nice but if that's what people want to grieve over ,carry on.
Ps is there a pile of flowers around it yet.?

 

[Pausim]

Personally I had never heard of this tree and think other millions hadn't either. So all it's done is make it even more famous.
And yeah it's just a tree that grow like weeds here and not even very nice but if that's what people want to grieve over ,carry on.
Ps is there a pile of flowers around it yet.?

The lone position and location are what made it special. It was much photographed and even used in a very popular film. The fact that millions will not have heard of it doesn’t give someone the right to fell someone else’s tree.

 

[trophychap]

I did see the film Robin Hood Price of Thieves, but I can't remember what he was doing so far away from the Greenwood of Sherwood forest? It is my belief that the vast majority of the "Great British Public" would never have heard of this particular tree, had it not been for the film.

Please don't think that I am unsympathetic I do think it was a terrible act of mindless vandalism.

Years ago when travelling in Australia I couldn't wait to get back to the UK to see some beautiful broadleaf woodland as opposed to all the Eucalyptus trees that grow like weeds out there.

 

[chaser]

How many trees will be replaced that have been cut down for hs2

 

[JJ]

I have watched a tonne of lumberjack videos on youtube

Interesting...

JJ

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