Something to send a shiver up your spine!

[Purrfecttune]

Returning from our first ever European tour we were about 90 minutes from the Dieppe ferry.

As I navigated a roundabout I glanced in my near side mirror (offside in France, i.e. middle of the road side) and was momentarily confused as to why I could only see (what I thought) was the side of the motorhome. A split second later as I exited the roundabout, there was a loud bang as the habitation door slammed shut (and the expected view returned)!

I have absolutely no idea how it was open in the first place and the thought of the potential repercussions while driving made me cringe. Needless to say, we now ensure that before we drive off every time, we check it, lock it AND put the security lock in place.

Luckily, nothing fell out, including the step that sits right by the door during travel
(or Julie )

 

[chaser]

Had you been stopped somewhere and someone tried to get in?

 

[Riverbankannie]

 

[Two on Tour]

Are you sure it was not a migrant trying to get into your van as it is a common practice of theirs to try to get into vehicles on roundabout.

Our hab and cab doors are always locked while our van is in motion or stopped at junctions and traffic lights etc.

 

[EuroTrotters]

Oh dear

My daughter, aged 28 at the time, went flying into the hab door on a hairpin as she won’t wear a seatbelt . Luckily the door held

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[Lenny HB]

If had not been closed properly it would still catch on the first latch, so sounds like someone tried to get in. A bit odd as never seen any immigrants around Dieppe these days since they all got moved on a few years ago.
We always travel with the hab dood locked.

 

[Jo May]

Oh dear

My daughter, aged 28 at the time, went flying into the hab door on a hairpin as she won’t wear a seatbelt . Luckily the door held

Do you mind me asking why she wouldn't wear a seat belt?

 

[EuroTrotters]

Do you mind me asking why she wouldn't wear a seat belt?

Her and her other half don’t wear them in the motorhome. She always says, well they don’t have seatbelts on buses !.

Despite her friend being killed locally in a low speed car crash.

Killed in car crash on her 18th birthday: Family's tribute to tragic girl with 'eyes of an angel'

www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk

 

[Gina M]

Have you stopped and checked inside the van? If anyone got in they would have struggled to reclose the door while you were going around a roundabout.

 

[nicholsong]

Her and her other half don’t wear them in the motorhome. She always says, well they don’t have seatbelts on buses !.

Despite her friend being killed locally in a low speed car crash.

Killed in car crash on her 18th birthday: Family's tribute to tragic girl with 'eyes of an angel'

www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk

Point out to her that they are fitted on long-distant coaches and that normal buses do not go at expressway speeds.

I am unsure about your liability in various countries for not ensuring that your passengers are secured.

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[Gina M]

Point out to her that they are fitted on long-distant coaches and that normal buses do not go at expressway speeds.

I am unsure about your liability in various countries for not ensuring that your passengers are secured.

I once had a family member who refused to put her seatbelt on. I stopped the car and told her to get out. She put it on.

 

[Purrfecttune]

Had you been stopped somewhere and someone tried to get in?

Not that I can remember

 

[Barriesimpson]

Point out to her that they are fitted on long-distant coaches and that normal buses do not go at expressway speeds.

I am unsure about your liability in various countries for not ensuring that your passengers are secured.

In Spain you would be fined if any passenger is not wearing their seatbelt.

 

[Barriesimpson]

I once had a family member who refused to put her seatbelt on. I stopped the car and told her to get out. She put it on.

Yes, I do the same.

 

[Brains]

In Spain you would be fined if any passenger is not wearing their seatbelt.

And in the UK.
The driver is responsible for (all?) passengers wearing seatbelts

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[Brains]

I once had a family member who refused to put her seatbelt on. I stopped the car and told her to get out. She put it on.

I drive a minibus full of teenagers on a regular basis.

I simply tell them, every single time, like a cracked record, that anyone not wearing a seatbelt will be charged for a new windscreen as they come flying past.
Just because they are dead, it would not stop me charging their parents.

They have all heard this 'joke' so many times it's rare for them not to put them on automatically.

But, if there was ever a refusal, then I'm not driving any further with them on board.
They can explain to their parents why they have been left on the side of the M1 in the rain in the middle of the night.

 

[Gina M]

I drive a minibus full of teenagers on a regular basis.

I simply tell them, every single time, like a cracked record, that anyone not wearing a seatbelt will be charged for a new windscreen as they come flying past.
Just because they are dead, it would not stop me charging their parents.

They have all heard this 'joke' so many times it's rare for them not to put them on automatically.

But, if there was ever a refusal, then I'm not driving any further with them on board.
They can explain to their parents why they have been left on the side of the M1 in the rain in the middle of the night.

That's what I said to my family member, if you are not wearing your seatbelt in an accident, you would slam into me at a force so great I would not survive.

 

[L' Hobo]

In Spain you would be fined if any passenger is not wearing their seatbelt.

Also in Britain, the driver is responsible!

 

[Barriesimpson]

And in the UK.
The driver is responsible for (all?) passengers wearing seatbelts

I'm sure they are, the passengers cannot necessarily get points on their license, especially if they don't have one.

 

[Brains]

I'm sure they are, the passengers cannot necessarily get points on their license, especially if they don't have one.

To be fined road traffic offence you don't need a driving licence!

Without looking into the actual rules, UK drivers can certainly be fined for under 18's not having seat belts on.

But I think the fine for over 18's without seatbelts (who are not the driver) maybe down to the individual.
(Very difficult for say a taxi driver to insist on a seatbelt to a passenger)

I'm sure someone will be along shortly to confirm or correct me!

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[Barriesimpson]

To be fined road traffic offence you don't need a driving licence!

Without looking into the actual rules, UK drivers can certainly be fined for under 18's not having seat belts on.

But I think the fine for over 18's without seatbelts (who are not the driver) maybe down to the individual.
(Very difficult for say a taxi driver to insist on a seatbelt to a passenger)

I'm sure someone will be along shortly to confirm or correct me!

Yes, you could be right. Makes sense really.

 

[Gina M]

To be fined road traffic offence you don't need a driving licence!

Without looking into the actual rules, UK drivers can certainly be fined for under 18's not having seat belts on.

But I think the fine for over 18's without seatbelts (who are not the driver) maybe down to the individual.
(Very difficult for say a taxi driver to insist on a seatbelt to a passenger)

I'm sure someone will be along shortly to confirm or correct me!

Funny you say that the last few times I have had a taxi I struggled to find the clip for my seatbelt and I told the driver that but he just kept on driving which I thought was odd

 

[poppycamper]

And in the UK.
The driver is responsible for (all?) passengers wearing seatbelts

From Highway Code
Driver not responsible unless passenger un 14yr old

 

[Gina M]

In my mind it's more about the safety of the driver. If your passenger refuses to wear a seat belt if they are sitting behind you then chuck them out. If they don't care about their own safety then so be it, but don't put me in danger. So sorry to the OP but we have really gone off topic. I'm out

 

[L' Hobo]

From Highway Code
Driver not responsible unless passenger un 14yr old

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One must always remember that the Highway Code is an advisory document, not the law. Just saying?

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[Northernraider]

90 minutes from the dieppe ferry is miles away .. I doubt it would be an immigrant. Van could be going anywhere

It's more likely to have not been closed properly. I always lock my hab door when driving as I have had one fly open on a previous van ...most likely due to it flexing.

Not as bad as when the garage door opened on the frankia in Spain and a few items did fall out .. that was embarrassing

 

[Purrfecttune]

90 minutes from the dieppe ferry is miles away .. I doubt it would be an immigrant. Van could be going anywhere

It's more likely to have not been closed properly. I always lock my hab door when driving as I have had one fly open on a previous van ...most likely due to it flexing.

Not as bad as when the garage door opened on the frankia in Spain and a few items did fall out .. that was embarrassing

Years ago I did three Months as a milkman. One day as I was going around a roundabout, the rear cabinet flew open depositing a crate full of empty glass bottles all over the road

 

[L' Hobo]

Years ago I did three Months as a milkman. One day as I was going around a roundabout, the rear cabinet flew open depositing a crate full of empty glass bottles all over the road

I bet you had a smashing time!

 

[Northernraider]

I bet you had a smashing time!

Yeah till he lost his bottle(s)

 

[The Wino]

One must always remember that the Highway Code is an advisory document, not the law. Just saying?

It's just advisory to continue to use seatbelts on planes as several have found out recently in turbulence it's good advice!

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