WANTED Semi Automatic A frame Tow Car

[dabhand]

It's absolutely called for . there are other forums that stay seriously on topic, they get about ten "on topic" posts a day and you'll wait days for a definitive answer. Is your time that precious that you don't have time to gloss over a pun or unfunny joke? I doubt it is as you spent plenty of time posting in this thread. This thread has some excellent answers within, a bit of fun or banter within doesn't matter, its takes but a few seconds to scan the posts and threads ALWAYS end up with the best answers, sometimes the diversions are fun to read, sometimes they aren't, so what.

Did you get the answers you wanted? I'd say so...

Don’t you hold back now @Jim you tell him boyo!

 

[RVFUN]

Unfortunately no as I was asking if any member selling an automatic a frame car or recommendation for towbar dealer. I have plenty of time to read entertaining & funny posts but none to read personal and derogatory comments I wish I had never posted as obviously this is not the right site to do so on.

 

[icantremember]

Unfortunately no as I was asking if any member selling an automatic a frame car or recommendation for towbar dealer. I have plenty of time to read entertaining & funny posts but none to read personal and derogatory comments I wish I had never posted as obviously this is not the right site to do so on.

Please refer to post#7 and others.

 

[dabhand]

I'm sorry this post seems to have gone totally off track and become personal - sorry Len grateful for your support and comments.

Without wishing to sound sarcastic or pedantic if you type A frame in the search box you will return 122 threads on various matters to do with A frames, you can of course be more specific. I have on several occasions been tempted to have a A frame and toad, and over the years have had MANY conflicting views and opinions from amateurs and professionals alike, to my knowledge, the only “automatic” car that can be towed on an A frame is a Smart, I think @tonyidle ’s post just about covers it. Good luck in your quest.

 

[RVFUN]

I was asking if anyone was selling not for advice !! And of course I realise there are a number of threads on this. Len kindly offered to sell me a manual however my preference is an auto which has a neutral option.

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[Jim]

I wish I had never posted as obviously this is not the right site to do so on.

You asked the question and someone made a joke about the legality. It didn't really detract from the answers, but the moaning about it did .

 

[Teuchter]

Unfortunately no as I was asking if any member selling an automatic a frame car or recommendation for towbar dealer. I have plenty of time to read entertaining & funny posts but none to read personal and derogatory comments I wish I had never posted as obviously this is not the right site to do so on.

I personally have no TOAD for sale nor will I try to give you any advice (wanted or unwanted)

Having I do feel the urge to pass comment (that is normally allowed - even sometimes welcomed - on this fun site) so please ignore this post if you wish!

I have read and re-read the comments I cannot seem to find any as that I would actually class as derogatory!

For sure some of them are only loosely connected with your original post - a common occurrence on this site - and adds to it's enjoyment IMO

A few replies actually give you more info than you originally asked for so surely you should welcome this instead of taking offence!

Just saying!!

 

[Minxy]

I was asking if anyone was selling not for advice !! And of course I realise there are a number of threads on this. Len kindly offered to sell me a manual however my preference is an auto which has a neutral option.

By default the answer to your question seems to be 'no' as no one has said they have one for sale that meets your needs.

I've just had a quick shuftie on Ebay for you and there are a few on there which may be suitable:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/Cars-Motorcycles-Vehicles/9800/i.html?_dmd=2&_from=R40&_nkw=a-frame+car

 

[sweetie]

towbars2 towcars have automatics on web page

 

[RVFUN]

Thankyou everyone and I do appreciate all advice but I feel funster posts should be fun banter rather than personal as can cause unnecessary distress .

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[tonyidle]

Pedantic or what?????

Pedantic maybe but there are postings on here on various subjects that extend into pages of discussion because one or more parties don't understand the other(s). And I, and l suspect many others, have no idea what is meant by a 'semi-automatic' gearbox. I still don't. Is it one that can be forced manually? They all can so if my intention was to be pedantic perhaps you could explain the meaning of the term?

 

[Minxy]

Any chance the teddies can be kept in their prams now?

 

[tonyidle]

Any chance the teddies can be kept in their prams now?

Still early ......... .

 

[Langtoftlad]

Sorry, totally agree with the OP. He has asked a legitimate question so why do people have to turn the thread into a platform for, in the most part, unfunny and unconnected puns? It's uncalled for.
After all, sarcasm is the lowest form of wit

Edited:
... because I responded to your post before realising the thread had moved on, and others have posted more eloquently than me... so I'll simply say that folk rarely complete the full quote:

"...but the highest form of intelligence."

That'll do for me - and don't take life too seriously .

 

[Len Amey]

The problem with replies like the ones to this post and 99% of others on here is that the bulk of them don't bring anything to the table and invariably result in so many differences of opinion and inane comments as to render the whole exercise futile.
Apart from a couple of replies pointing in the direction of tow cars for sale, the rest were as much use as a chocolate fire guard.
What's the point in asking what an semi auto is and "Pedantically" yes, "Pedantically' pointing out the difference when in all probability, you were fully aware what was meant.
The OP asked if anybody had a tow car for sale, preferably an semi auto which is their term for it, not who tows what or whether it is an automatic or manual or how to disengage the steering lock.
I tow a car but I didn't feel the need to impart what it is, if I'm pleased with it, whether it is an auto or manual or for that matter how I deal with the steering lock, all of which has absolutely nothing to do with the original question.
Nobody is suggesting that we can't all have a bit of fun now and again, particularly if the original post starts out a bit tongue in cheek but, when someone asks a perfectly sensible and or serious question why turn it into a farce which is what happens to virtually every tread that is posted on here?
It goes beyond infantile so maybe it's about time that people took things a bit more seriously and grew up.

I.E. IF YOU DON'T HAVE ANYTHING CONSTRUCTIVE TO SAY, THEN DON'T SAY ANYTHING.....!

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[Len Amey]

Edited:
... because I responded to your post before realising the thread had moved on, and others have posted more eloquently than me... so I'll simply say that folk rarely complete the full quote:

"...but the highest form of intelligence."

That'll do for me - and don't take life too seriously .

With regard to most of the replies on here, I don't think intelligence enters into the equation.

 

[Len Amey]

Pedantic maybe but there are postings on here on various subjects that extend into pages of discussion because one or more parties don't understand the other(s). And I, and l suspect many others, have no idea what is meant by a 'semi-automatic' gearbox. I still don't. Is it one that can be forced manually? They all can so if my intention was to be pedantic perhaps you could explain the meaning of the term?

Pedantic (Adjective)
1. Overly concerned with minute details or formalisms.
2. Ostentatious in one's learning.

Synonym
Didactic
1. Inclined to teach or lecture others too much.

 

[Pausim]

but the highest form of intelligence."

I think some of the difficulty with sarcasm is that when spoken we use intonation and expression to show how it should be taken, humour, disbelief or whatever. This can easily be lost when it is written down so writer and reader do not always have the same undersanding and different readers may interpret it very differently. Perhaps, like me, some take a while to understand that most of it on this site is well meant Fun.

 

[Jim]

The problem with replies like the ones to this post and 99%

If there is one then the only problem with this thread are all the posts moaning about an AFrame Joke

 

[Jim]

You say this,

I.E. IF YOU DON'T HAVE ANYTHING CONSTRUCTIVE TO SAY, THEN DON'T SAY ANYTHING.....!

Then say this

With regard to most of the replies on here, I don't think intelligence enters into the equation.

Not the Joke, The rant about the joke has defined this thread

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[Chris]

So are A frames legal or not?

 

[big map]

So are A frames legal or not?

Of course they are, take one to Spain next trip.

 

[gus-lopez]

So are A frames legal or not?

Yes & No.

 

[Mr Chrysalis]

You say this,


Then say this

Not the Joke, The rant about the joke has defined this thread

Maybe @Jim could start another forum called “Seriousters” for serious questions and answers only, where Funsters are not allowed jokes, puns or embellishments.

 

[Minxy]

I.E. IF YOU DON'T HAVE ANYTHING CONSTRUCTIVE TO SAY, THEN DON'T SAY ANYTHING.....!

Right back at ya!

Regardless of what YOU think there have been some sensible answers concerning towing a car which, although not specifically asked about by the OP, are relevant to towing a car which they MAY not have been aware of and MAY help them make a decision about which car to go for and importantly whether they HAVE actually considered them. A short OP doesn't give much info on their 'experience' etc so a lot of what has been posted is intended to help, not p*ss take, be derogatory, dictative, pedantic, or whatever word you wish to insult others with - members are intelligent so most of them DO understand what these words mean, but I can't vouch for everyone!

I note that you haven't posted a lot, 29 posts since 2015, so perhaps instead of sitting there being 'content' with your car which you appear not to wish to share details/experience of use with anyone, it would be better to actually either stay away from this thread if it upsets you so much, or offer info. IMV just coming on to complain about others, which is what you appear to be doing, doesn't help anyone. You could have done what I did and find some cars which may be suitable but instead chose to 'have a go' ... I have therefore been constructive ... what have you been?

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[tonyidle]

Actually some of the earlier (450 and 451 models) Smart ForTwos were semi-auto, as opposed to full-auto ones, as you still had to change gear (it would change down for you it you couldn't be bothered!), it's just you didn't have to use a clutch - hence semi-auto.

The two we have had both had the button on the side of the stick to change modes & would change up and down without driver intervention if required. Not that l drove that way very often. Was there an early version that was different?

 

[Teuchter]

With regard to most of the replies on here, I don't think intelligence enters into the equation.

Now that's not very nice!!

You obviously don't hold your fellow funsters in very high regard it would seem

 

[Minxy]

The two we have had both had the button on the side of the stick to change modes & would change up and down without driver intervention if required. Not that l drove that way very often. Was there an early version that was different?

Yes there was a definite semi-auto version, my first one was a 2006 450 with the peanut headlights in a lovely shade of pink, I had to change gears as there was no auto-button. This was an option on the first 2 makes of Smart (ie 450 and 451) but most people seem to have gone for the full-auto version judging by those on the second hand market although you do have to watch out as some people don't know the difference and state semi-auto even if they have the auto-button or full-auto if they don't have the button so anyone thinking of buying a full-auto one needs to ask if there is definitely a button on the gear lever as it's the only way to know for sure.

 

[tonyidle]

Yes there was a definite semi-auto version, my first one was a 2006 450 with the peanut headlights in a lovely shade of pink, I had to change gears as there was no auto-button. This was an option on the first 2 makes of Smart (ie 450 and 451) but most people seem to have gone for the full-auto version judging by those on the second hand market although you do have to watch out as some people don't know the difference and state semi-auto even if they have the auto-button or full-auto if they don't have the button so anyone thinking of buying a full-auto one needs to ask if there is definitely a button on the gear lever as it's the only way to know for sure.

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Good to know - both ours (450 then 451) have had the button & l assumed they were all like that. At least either of those is OK as a toad.

 

[Geo]

Playing detective in the Motor trade is a black art. I have been practicing for many many years
I tried to help here, second post i think by getting the OP to expand on his idea
Exactly what is Newish? Im 99% sure your idea is not the same as mine
Exactly what is Semi Automatic Im 99% sure your idea is not the same as mine
Customers and even Mechanics have varying name for the same items, dependent even on where they live and what they were taught
Folk use general descriptions with 80% of the story still in their heads
eg
My clutch has gone
Where? did you leave a door open? was the vehicle locked after 20 mins of detective work we find the vehicle cant move because a drive shaft has broken
So to all the moaners and groaners do you really think all questions are irellevent? maybe in your head !!!
Or I could do what you think most garages would do and fit him a new clutch and defend that by saying you never said owt about a drive shaft

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