Schengen (wtf)

[P4ULV]

Good morning all Funsters,
We’re currently in rainy Morocco feeling a little dampened, and I was wondering, can someone please answer me this, Why does the law only allow us to spend 90 days (in180) in the Schengen area ?
Why aren’t we free to roam??

 

[2x2camper]

Good morning all Funsters,
We’re currently in rainy Morocco feeling a little dampened, and I was wondering, can someone please answer me this, Why does the law only allow us to spend 90 days (in180) in the Schengen area ?
Why aren’t we free to roam??

Beause that is the rule when you are not a member of the club ie the EU. We are now the same as USA, Canada, Australia, New Zealand etc.

 

[Jim]

Britain was never a member of the Schengen Area of borderless travel but British citizens did have the right to freedom of movement within the EU when the country was a member. This ended when the country formally left the European Union (EU) at the end of 2020.

 

[P4ULV]

I understand that, but for what reason ?

 

[Jim]

I understand that, but for what reason ?

Because it's the law?

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[Hagstrom]

There are reams of text on this forum that thoroughly explore the Schengen 90/180 rules and using the "Search" facility will find it all.

 

[Guigsy]

Because the EU have control over who resides?

 

[Abacist]

Their club, their rules - we no longer belong to the club.

 

[Just smiffy]

 

[P4ULV]

Thank you for your replies, I’ll check out the search.

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[orridge]

Beause that is the rule when you are not a member of the club ie the EU. We are now the same as USA, Canada, Australia, New Zealand etc.

Actually not entirely correct as a New Zealander we have agreements that predate Schegen which allows us to spend 6 months in France, then 6 months in Germany without falling foul of Schegen (not all countries just the major ones).

so travelling post brexit i leave the UK on UK passport and enter France on New Zealand and same on return.

 

[MisterB]

PS

Elvis died a few years ago aswell ..

 

[Bobandfay]

PS

Elvis died a few years ago aswell ..

Yo having us on we seen him preform in February this year in the Rock and Roll House in Benidorm

 

[The Wino]

Actually not entirely correct as a New Zealander we have agreements that predate Schegen which allows us to spend 6 months in France, then 6 months in Germany without falling foul of Schegen (not all countries just the major ones).

so travelling post brexit i leave the UK on UK passport and enter France on New Zealand and same on return.

That's interesting and not something often reported

 

[bigtwin]

I understand that, but for what reason ?

Because those are the terms of the Schengen Agreement that has been in place for some twenty odd years. When we left the EU we became bound by the terms of the Schengen Agreement.

Ian

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[gus-lopez]

I understand that, but for what reason ?

Your not a member of the club anymore so can't use/ have restricted rights.

 

[Ingwe]

I understand that, but for what reason ?

In essence, Schengen requires freedom of movement within its borders. The UK didn’t want this. One of the main reasons for Brexit. Control of borders.

 

[EuroTrotters]

Good morning all Funsters,
We’re currently in rainy Morocco feeling a little dampened, and I was wondering, can someone please answer me this, Why does the law only allow us to spend 90 days (in180) in the Schengen area ?
Why aren’t we free to roam??

It’s been common knowledge for years.

Did you vote to leave, remain or abstained?

 

[EuroTrotters]

If you are an EU Citizen or resident of an EU country. My understanding is you don’t require a passport to travel through Schengen countries. Just ID, TIE etc

 

[whiskyman]

Same as this club MF, if a paid up member you get full access if not you are restricted to what our Mein Führer allows

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[EuroTrotters]

Same as this club MF, if a paid up member you get full access if not you are restricted to what our Mein Führer allows

Careful

 

[P4ULV]

Great answers,

 

[Raul]

Actually not entirely correct as a New Zealander we have agreements that predate Schegen which allows us to spend 6 months in France, then 6 months in Germany without falling foul of Schegen (not all countries just the major ones).

so travelling post brexit i leave the UK on UK passport and enter France on New Zealand and same on return.

I was advised by border guard/control not to do that. Use same travel document for the same trip, don’t mix?

 

[bladerunner]

You should leave on the same passport you used to enter.
No issues swapping passport mid channel

 

[orridge]

I was advised by border guard/control not to do that. Use same travel document for the same trip, don’t mix?

It's not mixing at all. Same as if I was travelling back to New Zealand I would leave the UK on a British passport, enter New Zealand on a Kiwi Passport, Leave New Zealand on a Kiwi Passport and re-enter the UK on a British Passport though technically I could enter NZ as a tourist using a UK passport as we had to do last time for son who's passport had expired for NZ.

You leave UK passport control first at Folkestone on UK passport, request entry to France on NZ Passport, leave Coquelles on NZ Passport and renter the UK on British passport no mixing of travel documents at all.

I agree we would not to mix up on a trip ie go into France on NZ passport but try to leave on France on a UK Passport that would be asking for trouble.

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[nicholsong]

If you are an EU Citizen or resident of an EU country. My understanding is you don’t require a passport to travel through Schengen countries. Just ID, TIE etc

That is my understanding too but @Janhank thinks she needs a passport to travel outside Germany.

Which of us are correct?

 

[ctc]

It's not mixing at all. Same as if I was travelling back to New Zealand I would leave the UK on a British passport, enter New Zealand on a Kiwi Passport, Leave New Zealand on a Kiwi Passport and re-enter the UK on a British Passport though technically I could enter NZ as a tourist using a UK passport as we had to do last time for son who's passport had expired for NZ.

You leave UK passport control first at Folkestone on UK passport, request entry to France on NZ Passport, leave Coquelles on NZ Passport and renter the UK on British passport no mixing of travel documents at all.

I agree we would not to mix up on a trip ie go into France on NZ passport but try to leave on France on a UK Passport that would be asking for

I lost track when you left NZ.

 

[VXman]

If you are an EU Citizen or resident of an EU country. My understanding is you don’t require a passport to travel through Schengen countries. Just ID, TIE etc

Yes. Bumped into some German motorhomers in Dover in the summer. They drove all the way from Germany to Calais to board the ferry to England and were somewhat surprised when they weren't allowed through border control. They had to go back home and collect their passports.

Just had a thought - how long can EU members stay in the UK on holiday?

 

[15isto2]

Something to do with the EU taking back control of their borders

 

[VXman]

That is my understanding too but @Janhank thinks she needs a passport to travel outside Germany.

Which of us are correct?

As far as I am aware EU citizens can travel without a passport. Why would they need one? There are no border controls. I've not been asked for a passport in years of travelling (before and since Brexit) once through UK/France border controls'. I guess some form of ID would be sensible just in case.