The ecu is used for lots of faults these days not just the engine. So if you have another fault or even if you send it in for a service they still may access the ecu.
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Speaking from experience last year I made the big mistake of buying a fiat autotrail new from a dealer who persuaded me a remap would be a good idea, fortunately I phoned fiats help line who told me it would completely invalidate the warranties so dealer took it off.
Having more trouble with vehicle in the first few weeks took it to a fiat commercial dealer as per fiats advice they immediately picked up the remap but did a reset free of charge but told me I no longer had any warranties and the garage said all warranty fiat look for any excuse not to honour a warranty if the vehicle has been messed with its in their small print. long and short of it was complete refund from dealer as along with other problems that was the final straw
Do you also kiss goodbye to your Euro 6 status? Presumably non of the remaps have been through the testing process.
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Thanks for all the responses, very interesting information, thank you all. Happy with my driving technique and happy with my choice of fuel, and was also aware that I will have to put a value on any impact on Fiat warranty, however, appreciate comments. Question still remains 'Anyone out there had a euro6 remap and what was your experience'?
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Why don't they stop all the 'toads' then that have breached the CoC?
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I have no idea what a toad is in this context.
Agree with that mines Don 15k now and still improving
A car flat towed (toad) behind a motorhome on an A frame. I think the term comes from the USA and is used to distinguish it from a car on a trailer.
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Thanks. How does that affect to CoC of the car?
The front of the car needs modifying to take the A frame, usually an extra crossmember. The original towing eye points are not strong enough for frequent towing.
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Not sure that affects anything that's mentioned on the CoC.
Good point, I have never thought of that.
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Clearly not a popular choice among forum members and no one to date admitting to have had it done. Probably won't go ahead without hearing some first hand experiences, will have a look on line and see if there is anything out there among the wider Motorhome / delivery driver fraternity.
Neither am I but it is an argument used by some Toad detractors. It certainly has not stopped me having my VW Up modified for an A frame.
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I have a new VW High Up I just bought for my daughter to use, are you saying that this could be used with an A frame, if so could you please tell me what is involved and where you had yours done, Thanks
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Originally had my car done by Car-A-Tow but now using Towing A Frames device. Best to choose the A frame you want first and get the car modified by them to match their particular A frame. I think they have added a front cross member, with two new holes in the grill for the towing points. Also added a Bowden cable for overrun brakes but some prefer electronic braking devices. Wiring to couple up the lights with a plug under the bonnet.
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Thanks, very helpful indeed
It would affect the crashworthyness , and possibly mistime airbag deployment .
I use a box which attaches at the common rail wiring , takes 10 minutes to fit or remove,
if removed it leaves no trace history , I have it on a Renault van (125bhp) for the last 8 years
so Much better to drive now , more low down torque and 2mpg more , it doesn’t affect the emissions
for mot , I also have a box for my 180bhp MH but I’m not going to fit it until the warranty expires
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The original vehicle is crashed tested to comply with regulations for deformation, air bag operation ,etc;etc, Removing the original cross member & replacing it with one that has been modifed with 2 towings eyes from material that may ,or may not, be of the same type & construction as the original & which has not been crash tested, is a breach of the Certificate of Conformity.
It is also in breach of the 2007 anti-tuning directive which bans modifications to any vehicle that do not use parts that are EU homologated, have there own type approval & Certificate of Conformity.
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I had my euro 5 done, and when we sold the van it had done 54000 miles and still perfect, but it would not have been.?
Read my post on this thread. ? Bob.
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Has anybody used the above company for remaping ? I'm thinking about getting my peugeot 2.2 HDI done any thoughts ??
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Thanks, I have also been looking at these, like the way you can remove them should it be necessary, will dig deeper
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Try these it worked for me.
More power more torque and no warranty problems.
Takes 10mims to fit.
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More power more torque and no warranty problems.
Takes 10mims to fit.
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I have no idea what a modern ECU is capable of but it would not surprise me if it logged every unusual event, particularly ones that might give the manufacturer an excuse to avoid warranty claims. Data logging seems to be built into so many things these days. Siri probably knows how often I break wind and tells Google when to slip some indigestion remedy adverts Into a side bar.
My dealer told me yesterday that Fiat are developing a gizmo that will convert a euro 4 to euro 6 and it will franchise it to other companies. Any comments?
I hope that I don’t have to goto Bristol.
I hope that I don’t have to goto Bristol.
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An interesting idea and I can see a big market for it with low emission zones getting more extensive. There would need to be a procedure for updating official records so that modified vehicles didn’t get charged unfairly.
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Thanks for the info, will look into this one, like the simplicity although was led to believe an remap was better than a chip, no idea why so will dig into it, thanks once againTry these it worked for me.
More power more torque and no warranty problems.
Takes 10mims to fit.
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Good point, if the ecu is recording everytime I break wind then the internal memory is probably full, might be causing the problem, not sure what I can do about it though, one of life's little pleasures.
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I have had a TuneIt box fitted to five Fiats, it was supplied originally by Essenjay Fiat in Poole and fitted to the older 2.8 to help get the best out of a Burstner 821 and towing a “toad”. It was then transferred to another 821 for a couple of years. It was subsequently removed on sale, sent back for a free update and then fitted to a Euro 5 /130 bhp and two years later to a 150 bhp motor. We were more than happy with the performance, both the torque increase and slightly improved fuel consumption.
Unfortunately it could not be updated for Euro 6b so they took it back in part exchange for a later model which had greater “ brainpower” Although we now have an Auto Trail V Line 635 (6.36mtrs) 130 motor and not fitted until we had done nearly 5000 miles it has made a vast improvement to it’s pulling power/torque but in this case hardly an improvement in consumption. Saying that, I do tend to drive this van conversion at the top of whatever speed limit is applicable, have seen ( in Germany ) over 90 mph on the sat Nav quite easily on a few occasions when
The TuneIt unit is adjustable, it has a dial that can be set set to different performance situations,1 - 9. It came set at number 5 and we have not felt the need to turn the dial up to increase power.
Now for the interesting bit, the original cost was £375 and when that was exchanged the replacement unit cost £275 ( not new but obviously exchange and refurbed ) The first unit was bought in 2005, the latest one in 2017 total cost £650 and bear in mind that I can remove it in a couple of minutes, either to sell if I need to or if the Fiat developes some problem and the ecu needs looking into, I am quids in.
I hope this information is a help, we have been motorhoming for 26 years, owning 13 and all bar one have been Fiats. The only Renault, Adria AClass was useless. We have not suffered one problem with the Fiats, well a gearbox mod and engine mount recall due to reverse judder, each one have usually had a “ toad “ behind most of the time and not sold until 20,000 miles.
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Unfortunately it could not be updated for Euro 6b so they took it back in part exchange for a later model which had greater “ brainpower” Although we now have an Auto Trail V Line 635 (6.36mtrs) 130 motor and not fitted until we had done nearly 5000 miles it has made a vast improvement to it’s pulling power/torque but in this case hardly an improvement in consumption. Saying that, I do tend to drive this van conversion at the top of whatever speed limit is applicable, have seen ( in Germany ) over 90 mph on the sat Nav quite easily on a few occasions when
The TuneIt unit is adjustable, it has a dial that can be set set to different performance situations,1 - 9. It came set at number 5 and we have not felt the need to turn the dial up to increase power.
Now for the interesting bit, the original cost was £375 and when that was exchanged the replacement unit cost £275 ( not new but obviously exchange and refurbed ) The first unit was bought in 2005, the latest one in 2017 total cost £650 and bear in mind that I can remove it in a couple of minutes, either to sell if I need to or if the Fiat developes some problem and the ecu needs looking into, I am quids in.
I hope this information is a help, we have been motorhoming for 26 years, owning 13 and all bar one have been Fiats. The only Renault, Adria AClass was useless. We have not suffered one problem with the Fiats, well a gearbox mod and engine mount recall due to reverse judder, each one have usually had a “ toad “ behind most of the time and not sold until 20,000 miles.
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