refillable gas bottles used residual values

[MisterB]

Certainly happy to apologise if you disagree with what i said but it is a helpful community you already had a buyer on ebay so i dont think i have done wrong - it is an old cylinder and valves wear - i'm just saying compared to a new cylinder at £150 delivered it is a lot of money.
And apologise again if you dont like what i've said

you did offer to apologise on the other thread if I disagree with what you said … but now you've started acting very silly haven't you!
there is no need for anyone to be banned (unless admin think otherwise). a public apology would be nice though ….and one or two of your posts deleted?

I suppose you could even ban yourself if you felt so strongly about being banned !​

 

[Minxy]

extract from email
Hi xxxx

Many thanks for enquiring about the recertification on the Gaslow cylinders. As I see Louise has informed you correctly on the procedure for exchange of your cylinder. You are correct that the cylinder you receive back will be a cylinder that has been recertified, tested for another 15 years’ service, by doing this you will not have to wait for your cylinder to be inspected and be without a cylinder.

Regards
Martin Kennett

I emailed them yesterday and asked the question and got a different answer!

Good morning Mel

The recertified cylinder would have a 10 year life as cylinders now have to be tested every 10 years but our first cylinders which had 15 years on them are still ok for the 15 years.

I hope this is helpful.

Kind regards
Louise Fox

I wonder if they've had to re-think the duration of the re-certification due to the 10 year requirement ... when did you get your email response:

 

[MisterB]

Last year. I will email them again to clarify the situation and post their response. Things change, i hope this isnt one of them.

 

[GWAYGWAY]

My Alugas cylinder came with a 10 year certificate and by the time it is 8 years old it probably has little more than scrap value, except that cutting one open for recycling might be bit too exciting.

They only check for external corrosion , weld security and then pressure test it with hydraulic test. Restamp it and out it goes again to live again. very little chance of rusting from inside as there is no oxygen in there to oxidise anything. However there might well be a load of oil gathered over the years and that needs emptying out, the vessels them selves live a happy life dry and secure in the cabinets. The external tanks WILL rust through from the outside and spring leaks emptying into the underbody area to be drifting around in a cloud of potential big bang and fireball.

 

[Hettie's Crew]

Hamilton gas products

They’ve gone up a bit recently, now £167.

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[tonyidle]

They only check for external corrosion , weld security and then pressure test it with hydraulic test. Restamp it and out it goes again to live again. very little chance of rusting from inside as there is no oxygen in there to oxidise anything. However there might well be a load of oil gathered over the years and that needs emptying out, the vessels them selves live a happy life dry and secure in the cabinets. The external tanks WILL rust through from the outside and spring leaks emptying into the underbody area to be drifting around in a cloud of potential big bang and fireball.

My just-over-ten-years-old Alugas refillables (bought a couple of years ago for £45 the pair) are like new. No dents or corrosion & filler valves working fine.

 

[Pausim]

My just-over-ten-years-old Alugas refillables (bought a couple of years ago for £45 the pair) are like new. No dents or corrosion & filler valves working fine.

I am sure they will be fine after 10 years if treated well. My concern will be the attitude of insurers when the 10 year certificate has expired.

 

[tonyidle]

I am sure they will be fine after 10 years if treated well. My concern will be the attitude of insurers when the 10 year certificate has expired.

I take the view (when I think about them at all ) that only an accident caused or exacerbated by the age of the cylinders would interest the insurers. I can't see that happening.

 

[Minxy]

I am sure they will be fine after 10 years if treated well. My concern will be the attitude of insurers when the 10 year certificate has expired.

Seeing as insurers aren't interested in whether a MH has ever had a habitation check, gas check etc, I can't see how they can use the age of the cylinders as a 'get out' clause ...

 

[Cheshirecat57]

Sorry,I have quite a small brain, not enough room in it for this level of “worry”

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[Lenny HB]

Had a look at my Alugas cylinders they were bought in March 2O14 for the last van.
There is a label in German that appears to be warning about the dangers of LPG other than that 2023 is printed on the bottle next to the tare weight. If it is so important why is there no mention that they they have to be inspected and tested after 10 years.

 

[Geo]

As a brand new cylinder is in effect un tried and tested in the real world
it could be a rouge one
How ever a tried tested and proved 8 year old is a given
and probably worth more than a new one
thinking out the box as you do

 

[gus-lopez]

From your own sums then an 8 year bottle is worth 8 x 15 = £120 ..... going off the price quoted by gasfill at £179 for a new 11kg cylinder shouldnt that be 17.90 x 8 = £143.20? So one selling for £85 isnt such a bad price is it, whichever figure you use?

There are plenty on there with "best offer" so It's possible to buy under the rrp

Where is the £150 Gaslow 11kg cylinder for sale as I can't find it?

There were quite afew on the other day ,even one at 120, all stating brand new. None on today but plenty with 'best offer'

, I look forward to you posting on every advert on the forum, offering your view on whether the item is overvalued, undervalued or the correct price.

To be honest with plenty I have to stop myslef commenting on prices being asked

I am sure they will be fine after 10 years if treated well. My concern will be the attitude of insurers when the 10 year certificate has expired.

As they aren't required to be tested or inspected then they have no opinion & just have to pay out or you sue them.

I take the view (when I think about them at all ) that only an accident caused or exacerbated by the age of the cylinders would interest the insurers. I can't see that happening.

& as above they would still have to pay out & then alter there terms & conditions for the future.

 

[Pausim]

As they aren't required to be tested or inspected then they have no opinion & just have to pay out or you sue them.

I am not going to lose any sleep over this issue, as already suggested the chances of coming unstuck are very small.

However I think you will find that every insurance policy will have a Duty of Care clause in it (or something similar) which basically gives the insurance company an all encompassing out if you have failed to do something you could or should have done. If the claim is straight forward I doubt anyone will look too deeply into it but if there was a risk to the public, injuries or deaths involved you may find the Police and HSE crawling all over it. The HSE will always look for someone to hold accountable.