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It was mainly done for road safety as there are a lot of accidents on this road especially when it changes between single carriageway and dual carriageway. When you consider that every fatal accident costs about £2m it soon pays for itself by reducing accidents.Perhaps, if it is genuinely about ensuring that all are safe then perhaps it should be combined with some sort of educational publicity?
Not sure that revenue generated by needs the investment in equipment and manpower or the fact that scarce resource is being taken away fro other important areas
I’m really struggling with the mentality of a number of these posts. Perhaps it is because I’m a retired police officer. Anyone criticising such checks should question why? Is it because you knowingly run overweight and think it’s ok for you to do so? Is your van unroadworthy but it’s ok because you’re a good driver and you won’t be involved in an accident? Speed limits are for poor drivers and I’m such a good driver I don’t need to stick to them? I know there’s no tread on my tyres but I only drive when it’s dry and they give me better grip. I’ve heard and seen it all in my time. I don’t get it. If my van had been nicked I’d want the bastards catching. Whether I’d want the van back or not is a different matter. If there’s people out there driving without insurance I want them stopped. It costs me a fortune to insure vehicles so why shouldn’t they. If there’s dangerous vehicles out there I want them dealt with and put off the road until they are safe. Are we Motorhomers or Motormoaners?
I wouldn't resent any delay if it takes uninsured , unroadworthy vehicles off the road. OK it's an inconvenience but worth it.Our MH is always underweight because we do a weighbridge check. It is also kept in a roadworthy state.
If all drivers ensured that their vehicles were the same there would not be a need for so many DVSA checks The checks are induced by the non-compliant drivers.
I would resent my half-hour delay caused by those non-compliant drivers.
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I don’t like being stood in motorway tailbacks but I always say I’m glad I’m in the tailback and not the cause. It’s a part of life and having got through one I’m happy to continue my journey. If I got stopped at a check and was allowed to continue without issue I’d be a happy too.Our MH is always underweight because we do a weighbridge check. It is also kept in a roadworthy state.
If all drivers ensured that their vehicles were the same there would not be a need for so many DVSA checks The checks are induced by the non-compliant drivers.
I would resent my half-hour delay caused by those non-compliant drivers.
they did when the Uk was still a club member.They,along with Ireland gave it the finger , as they also did with the "cross border " directive encompassing 8 offences: only having to implement it when the EU changed it from motoring to a safety issue which a country could not refuse to endorse.so the Uk should have had them many years ago long before eu intervention.See some of the shite people tow around, especially farmers & caravanners makes you wonder why it has never been doneI'm surprised the authorities (tax collectors) haven't introduced MOTs for caravans and trailers.
Not an MOT issue but many must be running on original tyres....
Long before J27 dvsa weighbridge the police used to mount enforcement when they knew the santander >plymouth boat had arrived & would take the artics along to the weighbridge of Lloyd Maunder Ltd at Willand between 27 & j28, for checkingIt was done by Junction 27 no Tiverton a few years ago, and M5 before
Carol
If theyd stayed in the club you would be getting 4250kgs on a B licence as from January 2025Not all can be uprated to 3850 without modification. Also not much help if you don’t have a C1. Anyone younger than 45 is unlikely to have a C1 and those of us over 70 have to jump through medical hoops to keep it. I am not going to do another stress test to keep my C1 next year, far too stressful.
always isthe same ones who had been complaining!
What additional cost would there be? They are still being paid even if doing nothing?taken off the roads nd fines issued compared to the cost of the operation
And us too.... However the point is how many through ignorance don't even know what weight they should be... Hire vans, Newbie, never mind that they even consider the subject...Our MH is always underweight because we do a weighbridge check.
Unbelievable. So far 56 people have "liked" with this post, yet there have been only a few raising opposite views, yet there are some glaring inaccuracies in the above statement. Firstly, as has been said the revenue collection goes straight to the Treasury. So... speeding fines make no difference. Really??? All I can say such people who are not phased by speeding tickets ought to be banned from driving for life not just a couple of years.I think once the penny drops how many are overloaded and the potential cash cow this could create we shall see more of these checks. I may sound cynical and I am in no way advocating driving with an overweight vehicle, but these days it has very little to do with safety and more to do with revenue collection. It gets my why they can call speed camera vans “safety units” if they had anything to do with safety they would scream at you and force you to slow down and make your journey safer. Sending you a fine through the post 10 days later has done nothing to promote your safety. They are revenue generators and nothing more, just another form of tax.
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I think you just have to accept that there are some very eccentric motorhome owners and quite a lot of them are on this forum. To be charitable I suppose you have to say Vive la Difference.Unbelievable. So far 56 people have "liked" with this post, yet there have been only a few raising opposite views, yet there are some glaring inaccuracies in the above statement. Firstly, as has been said the revenue collection goes straight to the Treasury. So... speeding fines make no difference. Really??? All I can say such people who are not phased by speeding tickets ought to be banned from driving for life not just a couple of years.
I would like to ask the OP and the 56 others who take this stance the following questions:
1. If we don't fine those who break the rules of the road, (which by the way are a privilege not an entitlement), how they would punish drivers who break the rules?
2. Would they prefer a free for all where drivers could do what they want, drive on either side of the road, ignore traffic lights speed etc.
3. Would journeys be any better with many more roads closed due to serious accidents and A&E already overloaded, simply collapsing under the weight of admissions, and obviously far higher insurance premiums?
4. The money from fines goes straight to government coffers. Would you rather higher taxes instead?
Had our bay for 15+ years too. Get a garland you will fit right in............Ooooh..........another VDub owner.
Nice, don't feel so alone now.
Yes,was very surprised as was thinking might have to go for uprating at first, but now will easily work with what I have got, and as we are downsizing, we are getting shut of a LOT of clutter.
Different strokes for different folks!
Why do I need a garland?Had our bay for 15+ years too. Get a garland you will fit right in............
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It's not sticking it up it's ar5e that kills it.I wasnt aware that you could dispatch a chicken by sticking a strawberry up its ae*e ! I wonder how hard and how far it needs to go![]()
I think you need to go back and read my post! The point being made had nothing to do with the effectiveness of the vans or in anyway condones excessive speed. It was the typical political spin applied by government calling the speed camera vans “Safety Vans”. When really they do absolutely nothing to remove the IMMEDIATE risk. Of course it is correct eventually when a summons appears and points are added to the offenders license the offender shall think twice and likewise have a better understanding of speed and the impact and dangers it creates if they attend a speed awareness course.Unbelievable. So far 56 people have "liked" with this post, yet there have been only a few raising opposite views, yet there are some glaring inaccuracies in the above statement. Firstly, as has been said the revenue collection goes straight to the Treasury. So... speeding fines make no difference. Really??? All I can say such people who are not phased by speeding tickets ought to be banned from driving for life not just a couple of years.
I would like to ask the OP and the 56 others who take this stance the following questions:
1. If we don't fine those who break the rules of the road, (which by the way are a privilege not an entitlement), how they would punish drivers who break the rules?
2. Would they prefer a free for all where drivers could do what they want, drive on either side of the road, ignore traffic lights speed etc.
3. Would journeys be any better with many more roads closed due to serious accidents and A&E already overloaded, simply collapsing under the weight of admissions, and obviously far higher insurance premiums?
4. The money from fines goes straight to government coffers. Would you rather higher taxes instead?
It is bonkers that we test our cars every year, but not our drivers.Most accidents involve driver error, the condition of the vehicle might make matters worse - that's it.
Regardless of a MOT a vehicle must always be roadworthy
lmprove driving awareness, hit drink and drug drivers harder - electronic tags to stop or catch reoffenders......
No warrant card proves they are not police and not on official police business. Therefore have no more right to park on a pavement etc than any member of the public. To be prosecuted a police officer has to report you for the offence. If they were not there, how can they be certain an offence occurred? Plus why are the speeding wombles allowed to break the law with immunity?
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I started the thread as I am in agreement with the checks so I don't understand why you have included me in the above ?Unbelievable. So far 56 people have "liked" with this post, yet there have been only a few raising opposite views, yet there are some glaring inaccuracies in the above statement. Firstly, as has been said the revenue collection goes straight to the Treasury. So... speeding fines make no difference. Really??? All I can say such people who are not phased by speeding tickets ought to be banned from driving for life not just a couple of years.
I would like to ask the OP and the 56 others who take this stance the following questions:
1. If we don't fine those who break the rules of the road, (which by the way are a privilege not an entitlement), how they would punish drivers who break the rules?
2. Would they prefer a free for all where drivers could do what they want, drive on either side of the road, ignore traffic lights speed etc.
3. Would journeys be any better with many more roads closed due to serious accidents and A&E already overloaded, simply collapsing under the weight of admissions, and obviously far higher insurance premiums?
4. The money from fines goes straight to government coffers. Would you rather higher taxes instead?
Yep police hiding on a bridge on A14 every Sunday morning when the roads are empty with a speed gun, no safety in mind only revenue collecting and nothing better to do (probably being paid overtime). Yet you see mindless, selfish idiots hogging the middle lane which is a safety issue as it forces people to swerve 3 lanes or undertake but PC plod is obviously not bothered as it would involve some degree of policing. Better to warn people there are mobile cameras ahead so they slow down which would actually do something but do it when it's busy not on an empty road.I think you need to go back and read my post! The point being made had nothing to do with the effectiveness of the vans or in anyway condones excessive speed. It was the typical political spin applied by government calling the speed camera vans “Safety Vans”. When really they do absolutely nothing to remove the IMMEDIATE risk. Of course it is correct eventually when a summons appears and points are added to the offenders license the offender shall think twice and likewise have a better understanding of speed and the impact and dangers it creates if they attend a speed awareness course.
However, the point I was making, if the Safety Van were really there for safety it should not be covertly hidden behind bushes or over the brow of a hill and more importantly would attempt to remove the IMMEDIATE risk by alerting the driver to the risk they are creating by the excessive speed. This would surely create a safer environment where currently the covert van allows the risk to continue endangering other motorists by doing nothing more than collecting an image as evidence and creating revenue stream for government. As stated a true “Safety Van” would make an immediate intervention in some way and reduce risk to make things safer. Currently they do nothing, how can they be safety vans, they are revenue collectors, nothing more.
I think I am perhaps better placed than most to understand the consequences of speed. Having spent most of my younger days as a Trauma Specialist (Medic1 Air Ambulance) regrettably I have seen more than most. Then in my later years as Trauma Consultant in a number of EDs across the U.K. I am very aware the strain and load RTIs place on our NHS.
Wish it was that easy. A quick google of Surrey weigh stations brings up zero options. I called the local (Epsom) recycling centre and the guy said he would charge me £60 to weigh our motorhome.Perhaps their bigger concern was 'roadworthy condition'...so potentially tyres (and brakes)...the once a year trip with your caravan on 12 yr old "Wankang Ditchfinder" tyres. Should I swap my 10 yr old tyres? crops up on here fairly regularly.
Weightwise...I'm still staggered that people will pay tens of thousands on a motorhome/campervan but baulk at paying a tenner (and maybe a 50 mile round trip) to get it weighed to have a starting point. (As others have suggested in the past, perhaps all motorhomes sold by a trader should have a recent weight 'certificate' ?)
Not an uncommon problem.Wish it was that easy. A quick google of Surrey weigh stations brings up zero options. I called the local (Epsom) recycling centre and the guy said he would charge me £60 to weigh our motorhome.
I would love to be weighed fully laden as I'm a little in the dark how close we'd come to being overweight, but finding somewhere to get this done is not easy, particularly if you live in Surrey, Kent, Sussex, it seems.
£60 is madness. We use an agricultural company’s weigh bridge, £10.50 with ticket, sometimes no charge without.Wish it was that easy. A quick google of Surrey weigh stations brings up zero options. I called the local (Epsom) recycling centre and the guy said he would charge me £60 to weigh our motorhome.
I would love to be weighed fully laden as I'm a little in the dark how close we'd come to being overweight, but finding somewhere to get this done is not easy, particularly if you live in Surrey, Kent, Sussex, it seems.
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I did tell him that, in slightly more industrial language!£60 is madness. We use an agricultural company’s weigh bridge, £10.50 with ticket, sometimes no charge without.
Would it not be better to weigh the van to ensure it is not overweight?I started the thread as I am in agreement with the checks so I don't understand why you have included me in the above ?
My motorhome is kept in a roadworthy condition and is weighed to make sure I am not overweight.
The driver error might be getting into and driving an unroadworthy vehicle.Most accidents involve driver error, the condition of the vehicle might make matters worse - that's it.
Regardless of a MOT a vehicle must always be roadworthy
lmprove driving awareness, hit drink and drug drivers harder - electronic tags to stop or catch reoffenders......
And make sure an optician's certificate is submitted.It is bonkers that we test our cars every year, but not our drivers.
If we were really serious about cutting road deaths, we would focus on the biggest cause - the drivers.
A driving theory test only costs £22. We could start by requiring every driver to re-do the theory test every three years.
The highway code gets updated every few years, but most of us have not read it since passing our tests. Which could be 40, 50, 60 years ago.
We use a local haulage company. They have to weigh their vehicles for every trip and are happy to weigh the van for £8 - total van weight and rear axle including ticket. Several local farms also have weighbridges but are not "official" public facilities and don't issue tickets.Wish it was that easy. A quick google of Surrey weigh stations brings up zero options. I called the local (Epsom) recycling centre and the guy said he would charge me £60 to weigh our motorhome.
I would love to be weighed fully laden as I'm a little in the dark how close we'd come to being overweight, but finding somewhere to get this done is not easy, particularly if you live in Surrey it seems.
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We weighed the van for the first time on our return journey from our first trip out. We don’t have a local weigh bridge. So I made an educated calculation from brochure weight plus allowances for wind out awning etc. We also weighed everything that went into the van, and recorded it. So when we went away I thought would be ok and on going to the weigh bridge found we were ok. I made a note of amounts of water, grey water, fuel so we could adjust accordingly.Wish it was that easy. A quick google of Surrey weigh stations brings up zero options. I called the local (Epsom) recycling centre and the guy said he would charge me £60 to weigh our motorhome.
I would love to be weighed fully laden as I'm a little in the dark how close we'd come to being overweight, but finding somewhere to get this done is not easy, particularly if you live in Surrey it seems.