Only in Spain?

[peterc10]

When in Rome ............. Many campsites in Italy forbid noisy activities and prohibit driving around the site during the siesta.

The Spanish, like other people living in Southern Europe, have adapted there lifestyle to the weather. A long break and a sleep at the hottest time of day followed by being active after nightfall is the sensible way to cope.

After all only mad dogs and English men go out in the midday sun.

 

[MartinandBev]

Live and let live I say, we are parked up on an aire in Casa Nuevas at the moment and we had a right old Spanish chatter going on last night with a few vans, we looked out and they invited us and some others over so we sat chatting til gone 3am

 

[Wanders from Glos]

It’s a different culture and what’s rude in the UK is not in Spain. If a Spaniard is inconveniencing you they expect you to tell them, at which point they will be mortified and try to make amends. We have found them to be incredibly kind and generous, but definitely unaware of those around them.

My daughter speaks fluent Spanish and is fairly good at Catalan. When they visit the volume goes ups considerably. I often tell them they don’t need to use a telephone to speak to anyone because they are so loud. They just look blank. If as Northernraider says the Turks are worse I might have to avoid it.

 

[PaddyM]

I’ve been going to Spain since I was a nipper and love the people and country , I’ve only had one bad experience ( with some nutter in a gym who berated me for not being able to speak fluent Spanish whilst visiting Spain ) but I dealt with him .
They certainly know how to party and enjoy themselves !

 

[Wanders from Glos]

Live and let live I say, we are parked up on an aire in Casa Nuevas at the moment and we had a right old Spanish chatter going on last night with a few vans, we looked out and they invited us and some others over so we sat chatting til gone 3am

Sounds about right.

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[pelican]

Being 'foreign' has nothing to do with it.
It's got to be bad manners to stand in the yard or metre behind a van (a stone wall beyond that) at 3.30 in the morning talking to the discomfort of the people who WERE sleeping in the van.
Especially so when they were not staying.

Was this at a paying campsite?

 

[Mick and Ruth]

Go to Norway when it’s the Midnight Sun period!! They have 3 months of darkness so they are going to enjoy themselves, they are outside their vans at 3 and 4 am music on laughing, jet skis on the harbour with music blaring at the same time. One morning in Hammerfest at 7am this song started booming out over the marina but it was a real jolly Norwegian song? we just lay there laughing it finished and went silent again we were like what the hell was that about?.
We were on a small harbour up near Nordcapp and a coach pulled up alongside us at about 02:45 next thing 50 or so Korean/Japanese got off took a million photos smoked some cigs and 15 mins later they were gone, another turned up at 06:00 all doing midnight sun trips from the cruise ships.
Brilliant place wouldn’t hesitate to go again.

 

[Brian Thompson]

Parked up for the night in Loja.
It's a lovely Area, just behind the Sports centre and just after 3am.

A van (not a conversion) pulls in, much opening and closing of doors and a conversation strikes up. No raised voices but yada, yada, yada.
I looked out but couldn't see anyone.
After a time I'd had enough so I opened the door to find a couple having what to them was normal behaviour having a chat as if the Sun was shining.
I opened the door and after half blinding them with a torch pointed out that I was not happy.
They moved off but carried on discussing, whatever.
Forget Mars and Venus. I swear the Spanish are wired up differently.

It would seem like ignorance isn't confined to the UK

 

[Davecrawf]

Parked up for the night in Loja.
It's a lovely Area, just behind the Sports centre and just after 3am.

A van (not a conversion) pulls in, much opening and closing of doors and a conversation strikes up. No raised voices but yada, yada, yada.
I looked out but couldn't see anyone.
After a time I'd had enough so I opened the door to find a couple having what to them was normal behaviour having a chat as if the Sun was shining.
I opened the door and after half blinding them with a torch pointed out that I was not happy.
They moved off but carried on discussing, whatever.
Forget Mars and Venus. I swear the Spanish are wired up differently.

We stay at Cabopino every year, and the locals come to the campsite to enjoy their holidays (obviously, not staying as long as we do). The different families join each other to eat, drink and chat, long into the night. They are quite noisy, but it's their way of life and their country. All part of the rich experience of travelling to different countries, and seeing how others live.

 

[Emmit]

We stay at Cabopino every year, and the locals come to the campsite to enjoy their holidays (obviously, not staying as long as we do). The different families join each other to eat, drink and chat, long into the night. They are quite noisy, but it's their way of life and their country. All part of the rich experience of travelling to different countries, and seeing how others live.

I understand that.
I do not understand the circs. I described. Do you have a comment on those and could I ask. What would you have done?

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[Emmit]

Was this at a paying campsite?

No. Does that make a difference?

 

[stewartwebr]

Strange, just read comments on a Spanish Motorhome forum about rude English motorhomers making a huge amount of noise at an ungodly time of 8am

 

[Lenny HB]

We are on an Autocaravan stop at Rota last night 1am two VW campers came in both young family's kids running about loud talking doors constantly slamming, now they have left at 10:30.

I slept thought it but it woke Mi up she was muttering about it eairler I just said "it's Spain". I said to her you should have opened the window and said something.

 

[MarionK]

Being 'foreign' has nothing to do with it.
It's got to be bad manners to stand in the yard or metre behind a van (a stone wall beyond that) at 3.30 in the morning talking to the discomfort of the people who WERE sleeping in the van.
Especially so when they were not staying.

You should have put that in the OP! That's wierd AF. Maybe they were 'trading' and/or had a bit of the merchandise beforehand.

 

[Kevin R]

Parked up for the night in Loja.
It's a lovely Area, just behind the Sports centre and just after 3am.

A van (not a conversion) pulls in, much opening and closing of doors and a conversation strikes up. No raised voices but yada, yada, yada.
I looked out but couldn't see anyone.
After a time I'd had enough so I opened the door to find a couple having what to them was normal behaviour having a chat as if the Sun was shining.
I opened the door and after half blinding them with a torch pointed out that I was not happy.
They moved off but carried on discussing, whatever.
Forget Mars and Venus. I swear the Spanish are wired up differently.

Europe has many different cultures but unfortunately inconsiderate people seem to pop up everywhere once in awhile.

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[Emmit]

You should have put that in the OP! That's wierd AF. Maybe they were 'trading' and/or had a bit of the merchandise beforehand.

Have a look at when I posted the OP.
I didn't go to bed and post the following morning.
The post was done, "contemporaneously" and as a consequence maybe not perfectly litterate.

 

[Emmit]

Hull……..??

You obviously don't understand.
Only the chosen do.

 

[Wee Bold Davy]

Being 'foreign' has nothing to do with it.
It's got to be bad manners to stand in the yard or metre behind a van (a stone wall beyond that) at 3.30 in the morning talking to the discomfort of the people who WERE sleeping in the van.
Especially so when they were not staying.

It can't be easy sleeping at night when you have a siesta every day. I've got trouble sleeping past 4am every day without having a siesta

 

[pelican]

No. Does that make a difference?

You would most likely find it would.

 

[PaulW2]

Strange, just read comments on a Spanish Motorhome forum about rude English motorhomers making a huge amount of noise at an ungodly time of 8am

You do certainly get this, but were they commenting on English motorhomers in England?

"I went to a CAMC site, and there was this little fascist reenactment going on - By the left quick park. Doors to the left, nose to the front, move left, slightly to the right, straighten, measure the gap, engine off."

A smallish subset of motorhomers, and other visitors, do of course behave quite badly outside their own countries. Germans, English, Dutch, French... you see it all. We've all seen it, I'm sure.

Then there are some who visit, or even live in, a country and then berate the locals. In Portugal I've seen English, French, German and Dutch people doing this. One memorable English "expat" rounded on a Portuguese estate agent who was showing me his house for turning up 5 minutes before the appointed time. And the lecture about "you people" carried on for maybe 5 minutes. The real mark of civilisation in the interaction was of course the restraint of the estate agent in enduring the onslaught with just the tiniest smile.

The test? Reverse the roles. Try that in England. Imagine the (say) French home owner in England who attacks the English estate agent in such "you clueless people" terms. It's unthinkable, obviously. But it happens here all the time.

Or the curmudgeonly old foreign farts (only a minority of whom are from the UK) who live near our village who then complain during the village summer festival season about the organised loud music until the early hours. And who agitate and disrupt. This pothole, that water supply, this internet cable, that power cut, that tree, this fence, that boundary, that gardener's loud equipment, this overgrown field, that person's old vehicle, that apparently aimless pedestrian. They bring all their petty stuff and their resentments and little codes of conduct with them, together with their attitude of superiority. And they try to divert all the community's resources to themselves.

Or the ones who will loudly opine about the character of these essentially simple but happy people who just need a bit of education.

They come over here, don't integrate, often don't learn the culture or the language, form their own little isolated communities. Who could tolerate such a thing?

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[MarionK]

Have a look at when I posted the OP.
I didn't go to bed and post the following morning.
The post was done, "contemporaneously" and as a consequence maybe not perfectly litterate.

Sorry. It wasn't a 'dig'. It was just I (and I think others also) hadn't 'got' just how out of order they were until the 'between your van and the wall' post. You have my symathies, if that happened to me my hands would be shaking too bad to type!

 

[gus-lopez]

Well, sorry, I do actually get it. It's antisocial, ignorant and downright rude.

As has been said numerous times you do not.It is normal for them .Happens anywhere they can park for free.they pull up sometimes just for a rest,smoke lean on anything anywhere & talk at the top of their voices.
AS jumar said it winds me up at times but occasionally I might say something but usually it stops & they go.

& no it isn't antisocial ,ignorant & downright rude it is completely normal.To them it is the middle of the day.
I've even had it once & it was the Guardia making all the noise having just stopped for breaks & smokes.

You can be on a deserted beach and a Spanish couple/family arrive. They come and set up almost on top of you.

That one always makes me laugh having had it happen to us. Then next lot are again doing the same until eventually you are in the centre of a huge encampment.


As to going out the girl next door used to knock around 10,30-11pm for my daughter to go out at weekends?? Return around 5 or 6am.

Then another friend moved here up near Cehign. In laws came up from Malaga to help.Father in law said to me " there was a knock at the door around midnight ,I opened it & the two lads over the road asked if Aaron & Ben could come out to play football"?

 

[Emmit]

Sorry. It wasn't a 'dig'. It was just I (and I think others also) hadn't 'got' just how out of order they were until the 'between your van and the wall' post. You have my symathies, if that happened to me my hands would be shaking too bad to type!

No offence taken.
Others will know I spent years, making notes, "At the time"

 

[InvictaMoto]

Where we are in Alcoceber it seems that despite a full 5G phone signal shouting in Spanish day and night helps with communicating with each other.

 

[Lenny HB]

I can understand why they atnkisin the midxleyrof tbnivbg but when those Vdubs left -

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[PaulW2]

Where we are in Alcoceber it seems that despite a full 5G phone signal shouting in Spanish day and night helps with communicating with each other.

The Spaniards in Spain are very Spanish this season.

In other news there are reportedly African cultures where talking loudly in public is taken as a sign of politeness. A signal that you have nothing to hide, that you aren't talking behind anyone's back.

Also: why are Dutch windows so often unshielded so passers-by can look right into their rooms? Culture? Honest citizens have nothing to hide is a popular explanation. Who knows? Not me, but there are some sights that will continue to haunt one.

And topically, hot of the press, the Telegraph once again had an article telling us the 16 reasons why we are more "common" than we think. What is this comedy of manners about fish knives and whatnot? Is it a cultural hang-up about status and 'poshness'? How very odd, surely? "It is impossible for an Englishman to open his mouth without making some other Englishman hate or despise him," George Bernard Shaw said.

Can anyone else understand this? Why would they even want to? And if they tried, could they ever succeed?

Children should be seen and not heard? Whoever said such a thing? Not a Spaniard.

 

[Lenny HB]

Why do Spanish always have prison bars on their windows even the upstairs ones?

 

[Peavy]

Why do Spanish always have prison bars on their windows even the upstairs ones?

For the same reason we Spaniards have locks in our vans

 

[royandsharont]

Hull……..??

Not quite, born there but migrated to the East Riding

 

[MichaelT]

I can understand why they atnkisin the midxleyrof tbnivbg but when those Vdubs left -

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