no tax no mot no insurance

If the tax was cancelled by DVLA then it was automatically SORN by DVLA and should be removed from the road.
Nothing to do with insurance Ian.
No insurance doesn't make it unroadworthy, mechanical defects make it unroadworthy.
If its not used on public roads it can't be unroadworthy
I was wondering if it was on the public highway, rather than on private ground, too. If so then it make sense for the insurance to be cancelled as the car would be illegally being kept on the road.
 
I was wondering if it was on the public highway, rather than on private ground, too. If so then it make sense for the insurance to be cancelled as the car would be illegally being kept on the road.
I missed the bit about Ians brother dying which would of course cancel the insurance regardless of tax or not.
A deceased person obviously can't hold insurance of any kind.
 
No MOT does not mean no insurance. No licence does though

Reading this thread made me wonder if the individual who @tick59 is complaining about has a valid driving licence or might be a disqualified driver.

Insurance not held is often an indicator of multiple offences some of which could be serious.

Uninsured vehicles are costing all of us higher premiums because we are the ones paying for the claims against their drivers.
 
Not sure that is correct - I think the insurance says that the vehicle has to be in a road worthy condition.

If a Vehicle is not taxed, then most insurers will deny cover. They may however be liable for Third party damages.

If you aren't taxed then your not insured, that's what I was told regarding my deceased brothers car by his insurance company. As soon as DVLA were informed that he had died they refunded the tax and it was uninsured. I had to immediately change it into my daughters name and insure it. Luckily you don't have to wait for probate to do that.

I believe that is the case. The insurer is only liable for third party claims, and they can recover that from the insured. (obviously not if deceased!) The insurance industry have a fund to pay out on "uninsured" claims. But it is a long and torturous process for the Claimant.

As for the Op`s situation. I can only suggest that they address it via the Chief Constable. A crime is being committed. (untaxed and on a highway), and his officers having been informed are in Dereliction of their Duty. That in itself is an internal discipline issue.

TOO many, "minorities" getting away with crime to-day. All due the the all pervasive woolly thinking of those who favour "Political Correctness".

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I missed the bit about Ians brother dying which would of course cancel the insurance regardless of tax or not.
A deceased person obviously can't hold insurance of any kind.

That's not what his insurance company told me papa, they were happy to continue the insurance until it was untaxed.
You are wrong about SORN, when they refund the tax they do not SORN it, you have to that.
They sent me a warning letter about SORNing it.
 
Jees 5 pages of arguing about nothing.

Put a few photos of the offending vehicles up showing the makes and number plates

We may aswell all play on the mot tax and insurance database sites.

Personally I fail to see why if like the op states the cars are being used on the road with none of the above why the police would not be interested.

The road tax they won't care about I've had that from the horses mouth recently when a car I had didnt show up on the police database as being taxed as only done same day ...he stated they would take no action but insurance can be funny about it . His words not mine.

Driving with no mot is an offence

Driving with no insurance is an offence

Being parked off the roadside in a parking spot ...might be an offence but one they are less likely to get het up about.

Loads of cars lying about these days untaxed

It used to be common years ago when it wasn't illegal to keep a car parked up roadside untaxed.

The fact the police are not reacting to the complaints makes me think the information the op is getting online isn't correct

So post up the vehicles details then others can check.

Cause otherwise this thread is just going round in circles.
 
Uninsured drivers raise the premiums for insured drivers by £15 a year: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-41071484https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-41071484..

Uninsured drivers have a 34% higher risk of causing accidents than insured drivers in this study: https://editorialexpress.com/cgi-bin/conference/download.cgi?db_name=ITEA2014&paper_id=192


So they cost me money and they have a greater likelihood of killing or injuring me or my loved ones. Some people might be happy with that. I'm not.
 
Uninsured drivers raise the premiums for insured drivers by £15 a year: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-41071484https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-41071484..

Uninsured drivers have a 34% higher risk of causing accidents than insured drivers in this study: https://editorialexpress.com/cgi-bin/conference/download.cgi?db_name=ITEA2014&paper_id=192


So they cost me money and they have a greater likelihood of killing or injuring me or my loved ones. Some people might be happy with that. I'm not.
I was agreeing till I saw bbc

I don't believe anything they say

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Lots of "Traveller Lovers" on here...

No house insurance, possibly a dump with nothing worth nicking..
 
Jees 5 pages of arguing about nothing.

Put a few photos of the offending vehicles up showing the makes and number plates

We may aswell all play on the mot tax and insurance database sites.

Personally I fail to see why if like the op states the cars are being used on the road with none of the above why the police would not be interested.

The road tax they won't care about I've had that from the horses mouth recently when a car I had didnt show up on the police database as being taxed as only done same day ...he stated they would take no action but insurance can be funny about it . His words not mine.

Driving with no mot is an offence

Driving with no insurance is an offence

Being parked off the roadside in a parking spot ...might be an offence but one they are less likely to get het up about.

Loads of cars lying about these days untaxed

It used to be common years ago when it wasn't illegal to keep a car parked up roadside untaxed.

The fact the police are not reacting to the complaints makes me think the information the op is getting online isn't correct

So post up the vehicles details then others can check.

Cause otherwise this thread is just going round in circles.
Jees 5 pages of arguing about nothing.

Put a few photos of the offending vehicles up showing the makes and number plates

We may aswell all play on the mot tax and insurance database sites.

Personally I fail to see why if like the op states the cars are being used on the road with none of the above why the police would not be interested.

The road tax they won't care about I've had that from the horses mouth recently when a car I had didnt show up on the police database as being taxed as only done same day ...he stated they would take no action but insurance can be funny about it . His words not mine.

Driving with no mot is an offence

Driving with no insurance is an offence

Being parked off the roadside in a parking spot ...might be an offence but one they are less likely to get het up about.

Loads of cars lying about these days untaxed

It used to be common years ago when it wasn't illegal to keep a car parked up roadside untaxed.

The fact the police are not reacting to the complaints makes me think the information the op is getting online isn't correct

So post up the vehicles details then others can check.

Cause otherwise this thread is just going round in circles.
No idea what it is like in the rest of the country but in the south the DVLA have outsourced "seek and find" untaxed vehicles to an outside contract. Very cheap labour scour all areas by night and day with address records and number plate recognition cams. They put a clamp on any vehicle and discuss any dispute after you have paid a huge fine plus tax arrears plus removal and storage cost if the clamp is not acted on within a week. They will also clamp on the drive if a tax dispute is live.

We also have DVLA and police manned pull over road checks anywhere with number plate recognition. Any untaxed vehicles will be confiscated if you cant come up with the funds on the spot.

The police and DVLA don't need curtain twitches, they have ample resources to address no payment.
This is why I am finding it difficult to believe the facts of this post.
 
No idea what it is like in the rest of the country but in the south the DVLA have outsourced "seek and find" untaxed vehicles to an outside contract. Very cheap labour scour all areas by night and day with address records and number plate recognition cams. They put a clamp on any vehicle and discuss any dispute after you have paid a huge fine plus tax arrears plus removal and storage cost if the clamp is not acted on within a week. They will also clamp on the drive if a tax dispute is live.

We also have DVLA and police manned pull over road checks anywhere with number plate recognition. Any untaxed vehicles will be confiscated if you cant come up with the funds on the spot.

The police and DVLA don't need curtain twitches, they have ample resources to address no payment.
This is why I am finding it difficult to believe the facts of this post.
What facts are they then??? fact one no tax fact two no mot fact three no insurance fact four parked on a public highway fact five after sending e mails to police counstable, MP and Police commisioner they all can not be bothered to send a reply, So i advise wveryone on here to not pay road tax do not get an mot or insurance for your vehicles as the country has GONE TO HELL IN A DUSTCART and nobody in so called authority gives a F$%K about anything.
 
A mate of mine had the same issue, so he bought a car to park outside his house just to stop others, I like his style.

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Got two vehicles parked outside my door owned by the bloke oppisite me. Gypsie family how do you get these vehicles moved one has been there since August 2018. DVLA dont whant to k no Police are not interested and council dont care. So how the hell do you get these vehicles moved. He uses one every day for the school run and carries a new born baby, daughter and wife in the car and nothing is done.
Whilst I have not read all the posts on here, I do find this a bit odd. If this guy lives across the road from you what makes him a Gypsi family, especialy as he is doing a school run.Perhaps his vehicles,also parked outside his house Im guessing are legally parked and taxed, insurred etc. You have been to the police, the council and the DVLA without success. I would have thought the DVLA and local authority including the plod would have these away if they were not legally parked there. Is there more to this than meets the eye. It would be great to hear what your neighbour across the road has to say about your concerns. Calling them a Gypsie Family says it all in my book.
 
No idea what it is like in the rest of the country but in the south the DVLA have outsourced "seek and find" untaxed vehicles to an outside contract. Very cheap labour scour all areas by night and day with address records and number plate recognition cams. They put a clamp on any vehicle and discuss any dispute after you have paid a huge fine plus tax arrears plus removal and storage cost if the clamp is not acted on within a week. They will also clamp on the drive if a tax dispute is live.

We also have DVLA and police manned pull over road checks anywhere with number plate recognition. Any untaxed vehicles will be confiscated if you cant come up with the funds on the spot.

The police and DVLA don't need curtain twitches, they have ample resources to address no payment.
This is why I am finding it difficult to believe the facts of this post.

Not in Hemel Hempstead they don't. Or if they do they are as effective as the DVLA and local council.
 
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Not in Hemel Hempstead they don't. Or if they do they are as effective as the DVLA and local council.
I think they probably do, I've not seen any abandon cars in Hemel for ages.
One thing I did see last week while driving along a busy Leighton Buzzard road in the town, two cars in front of me was a police car heading for the station. My son was in the back he said watch it dad look at these f-ing ideates.
Three trials bikes all on one wheel were coming down between the two lines of two way traffic heading for me dressed in full head and face mask with just slots for eye holes no helmets. They were really motoring and all three stuck their finger up to the coppers. It looked like a screen from a film set. They must have been very competent bikers as the gap just opened up as they came in fact I felt their sleeve as they went by. It got my adrenalin going so god knows what theirs was like. I thought they were going to jump over me at one point:)
That took a load of skill from the riders and plenty of bottle I would say. The police just shrugged their shoulders. That's Hemel for you Mike....a result of inbreeding I guess.;)
 
A mate of mine had the same issue, so he bought a car to park outside his house just to stop others, I like his style.
We don't own the roads Phil even the part outside our homes....
 
[QUOTE="tick59, post: 3187012, member: 1069" So i advise wveryone on here to not pay road tax do not get an mot or insurance for your vehicles as the country has GONE TO HELL IN A DUSTCART and nobody in so called authority gives a F$%K about anything.[/QUOTE]
Bad advice matey! Which none on here will follow. IMO

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We don't own the roads Phil even the part outside our homes....
No, but neither do they. We have had a spate of bad parking stopping on a Sunday morning , meaning we cant get out of our Close, thanks to the local God botherers. I now park on the road on a Saturday night , as do 3 of the neighbours.
 
If he has no m.o.t he automatically has no insurance.

Spongy
No he doesn't.
If you aren't taxed then your not insured, that's what I was told regarding my deceased brothers car by his insurance company.
That's because he had died.


That's not what his insurance company told me papa, they were happy to continue the insurance until it was untaxed.
You are wrong about SORN, when they refund the tax they do not SORN it, you have to that.
They sent me a warning letter about SORNing it.
You gave out to much information. Never tell them anything until it suits you as there will always be a problem created by them.

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I think they probably do, I've not seen any abandon cars in Hemel for ages.
One thing I did see last week while driving along a busy Leighton Buzzard road in the town, two cars in front of me was a police car heading for the station. My son was in the back he said watch it dad look at these f-ing ideates.
Three trials bikes all on one wheel were coming down between the two lines of two way traffic heading for me dressed in full head and face mask with just slots for eye holes no helmets. They were really motoring and all three stuck their finger up to the coppers. It looked like a screen from a film set. They must have been very competent bikers as the gap just opened up as they came in fact I felt their sleeve as they went by. It got my adrenalin going so god knows what theirs was like. I thought they were going to jump over me at one point:)
That took a load of skill from the riders and plenty of bottle I would say. The police just shrugged their shoulders. That's Hemel for you Mike....a result of inbreeding I guess.;)
I would have taken that as an opportunity to move over & take them out.
 
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I think they probably do, I've not seen any abandon cars in Hemel for ages.
One thing I did see last week while driving along a busy Leighton Buzzard road in the town, two cars in front of me was a police car heading for the station. My son was in the back he said watch it dad look at these f-ing ideates.
Three trials bikes all on one wheel were coming down between the two lines of two way traffic heading for me dressed in full head and face mask with just slots for eye holes no helmets. They were really motoring and all three stuck their finger up to the coppers. It looked like a screen from a film set. They must have been very competent bikers as the gap just opened up as they came in fact I felt their sleeve as they went by. It got my adrenalin going so god knows what theirs was like. I thought they were going to jump over me at one point:)
That took a load of skill from the riders and plenty of bottle I would say. The police just shrugged their shoulders. That's Hemel for you Mike....a result of inbreeding I guess.;)


I probably know them. I will have a word next time i am at the trials club. :D

I used to be a motorcycle trials ACU clerk of the course.
 
Whilst I have not read all the posts on here, I do find this a bit odd. If this guy lives across the road from you what makes him a Gypsi family, especialy as he is doing a school run.Perhaps his vehicles,also parked outside his house Im guessing are legally parked and taxed, insurred etc. You have been to the police, the council and the DVLA without success. I would have thought the DVLA and local authority including the plod would have these away if they were not legally parked there. Is there more to this than meets the eye. It would be great to hear what your neighbour across the road has to say about your concerns. Calling them a Gypsie Family says it all in my book.

The owner of the vehicles is from Gypsie family and he does not care about anyone

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The owner of the vehicles is from Gypsie family and he does not care about anyone
If he is doing a school run every morning, then clearly your statement is wrong. Would you be willing to provide the registration numbers of his vehicles parked in front of his and your house. which you claim are not taxed, Insured and have no M.O.T and the authorities refuse to take any action on. Thanks in advance.
 
I feel as if I am banging my head against a brick wall. @gus-lopez Can I repeat that they did NOT cancel the insurance when my brother died.
When you insure a car it's in two parts, one part covers the driver, the other part covers the car against fire, theft and damage.
My brother was insured to drive his car, when he died the car was still insured for fire and theft but no longer had a driver. They simply made a note on the policy that he had died.
 
I probably know them. I will have a word next time i am at the trials club. :D

I used to be a motorcycle trials ACU clerk of the course.
Impressive display of bikemanship Mike, I'm still getting flash backs of them chain male face masks with those round eye holes,:) like something from a Jackson video...:) How do they manage to steer so precisely at that speed with only the back wheel touching the ground. (y)
 

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