no tax no mot no insurance

swidy said:
Only DVLA deal with car tax but not very well,
Council only can deal if vehicle is abandoned,
Police deal with MOT but only if vehicle is stopped while being driven same with insurance.
The best thing to do is ring 101 every time you see the vehicle being driver and make sure you get a log number each time, if nothing is done you then have something to take to your MP.

How do you know he has no insurance ?
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If he has no m.o.t he automatically has no insurance.

Spongy
 
David and Sally said:
You beat me into submission. We all have to spend a fortune protecting our property from criminals and you are not happy about people helping to reduce crime by informing, and just letting criminals get on with their work.

No chance of the loacl Neighbourhood Watch asking you to help out then?
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Neighbourhood Watch, if I see someone hanging around mine or my neighbors property then I will ask them if I can help, if they are hanging around when I'm not at home then my dog will ask if he can help. My neighbors do the same for me. Nothing to do with reporting vehicles for not being taxed DandS.
 
buttons said:
Sounds like a snoops charter, why on earth would anyone feel the need check on the full details of a car legally parked outside the house on a public road. You could always go the full distance an carry out a citizens arrest. The mind boggles….:rolleyes:
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I am not a snoop and these vehicles are not legal no tax, no mot no insurance, so why if this git gets away with not beein legal why are there laws in this country,No one gives a shit anymore and there is no such thing as law and order any more and many just turn a blind eye.
 
JJ said:
To be frank, this is a scenario that is so unlikely to happen that I don't spend any time considering it.

Has it happened to you? No, thank heavens and I hope it never happens to you

I haven't spent one penny protecting my flat from criminals. What, no locks at all?

I am not a "Grass". Never?? Under no circumstances at all??.

JJ :cool:
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pappajohn said:
Citizens arrest.... Piekey..... You're having a laugh buttons.
These people resist a proper police arrest so what chance one man.
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Sort of what I was suggesting pj it is ok to do these things from behind closed curtains but not get involved.
 
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JJ said:
I haven't spent one penny protecting my flat from criminals.
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I take it from that comment you don't have house insurance then JJ.
If you do you spent a lot of money protecting your flat from criminals.
You say the vehicle being untaxed wouldn't have any direct bearing on you..... Maybe so, but no insurance would in the form of increased premiums for every driver who does pay for insurance..... That maybe increasing premiums by 5% per year for everyone.
 
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That's not how it appeared
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pappajohn said:
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I take it from that comment you don't have house insurance then JJ.
If you do you spent a lot of money protecting your flat from criminals.
You say the vehicle being untaxed wouldn't have any direct bearing on you..... Maybe so, but no insurance would in the form of increased premiums for every driver who does pay for insurance..... That maybe increasing premiums by 5% per year for everyone.
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No curtain twitters involved, my brother was telling me his mate had burnt his house down recently. His mate had installed a log burner a few years ago and unbeknown to him his wife had found a home to store her flammable stuff around the flu. They were woken up by a fire that burnt the house down. Luckily he was well insured it requires a complete rebuild and temporary accommodation for six months while the work is carried out. Makes insurance worth while for other than crime claims.
 
buttons said:
Must have made you very proud tony. It is bad enough with private company's profiting from parking and many other motoring offences without public do gooder's getting involved..
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I have no interest in Parking offences or in private companies profiting from them - evading that that affects usually no-one and no laws are being broken. There are some things that hold society together and the rule of Law is up there at the top. I have no desire to share the road with people who don't pay their way and, worse, may be a danger to others. Road Tax evasion is exactly that - tax evasion. Having an MoT and Insurance makes life a little safer for everyone on top of which most people found to have no insurance are found to be committing other offences - not necessarily motoring offences. Where do you draw the line? And Yes - I was very happy to see the twerp who parked an untaxed, uninsured, vehicle outside our house without any legal means of moving it get his comeuppance. Not proud - what I did shouldn't have been necessary.
 
buttons said:
Must have made you very proud tony. It is bad enough with private company's profiting from parking and many other motoring offences without public do gooder's getting involved..
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Where does do gooding begin or end ?

We all must pay our share or the cost increases for those that do.

I’ve never informed on anyone for anything but I think it has to be done or some will simply taka deeeee peeees.
 
tonyidle said:
I have no interest in Parking offences or in private companies profiting from them - evading that that affects usually no-one and no laws are being broken. There are some things that hold society together and the rule of Law is up there at the top. I have no desire to share the road with people who don't pay their way and, worse, may be a danger to others. Road Tax evasion is exactly that - tax evasion. Having an MoT and Insurance makes life a little safer for everyone on top of which most people found to have no insurance are found to be committing other offences - not necessarily motoring offences. Where do you draw the line? And Yes - I was very happy to see the twerp who parked an untaxed, uninsured, vehicle outside our house without any legal means of moving it get his comeuppance. Not proud - what I did shouldn't have been necessary.
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Nail on the head.! Well put.

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Chris said:
Yes that’s right Mike. I acted for a number of London Borough’s a few years back when the usual try on merchants claimed the removed cars contained £2000 in cash and iPads etc:rolleyes:
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bet they were gassed as well :LOL:
 
tonyidle said:
I have no interest in Parking offences or in private companies profiting from them - evading that that affects usually no-one and no laws are being broken. There are some things that hold society together and the rule of Law is up there at the top. I have no desire to share the road with people who don't pay their way and, worse, may be a danger to others. Road Tax evasion is exactly that - tax evasion. Having an MoT and Insurance makes life a little safer for everyone on top of which most people found to have no insurance are found to be committing other offences - not necessarily motoring offences. Where do you draw the line? And Yes - I was very happy to see the twerp who parked an untaxed, uninsured, vehicle outside our house without any legal means of moving it get his comeuppance. Not proud - what I did shouldn't have been necessary.
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spot on.. Too many people unwilling to get involved... that is until the un-taxed, un-insured and un licenced idiot ploughs into your car or worst your loved one
 
Too many saying don't get involved .. I agree don't OPENLY get involved but don't stop the complaining to the powers that be.

Some ask what harm is he doing YOU ... Answer: NONE ... until he smashes into you or yours or even someone on here on the road when dropping the kiddie off .. and you find yourself with having to take him personally to court to claim for damages ..cos he has no i surance. You would be lucky to be recompensed at a £1 a week out of his benefits ...

Maybe a pm to all of us who are up in arms .. giving make, registration number, email address of local council and the road the vehicle is parked on.

Maybe several emails from various people who 'happen to have noticed reg number etc etc etc is NOT taxed .. when we visiting our friend ... What is going to be done about it?


Oops sorry just seen above post which coincided ... but me being a woman took hundred words to his 10. ;)
 
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One scenario with this guy. He drives off, no tax, licence, mot, insurance and smashes into your car seriously hurting someone. Are you now happy no-one has tried to inform on his illegal activities or are you furious he's driving illegally?
To be frank, this is a scenario that is so unlikely to happen that I don't spend any time considering it.

Has it happened to you?



It's happened to my Mum and to my son (in incidents 25 years apart). My Mum needed hospital treatment, in my son's case the miscreant made a bit of an error as he was unaware my son is a serving army officer and there was an official visit to the miscreant's place of work by my son's commanding officer plus a Military Policeman shortly afterwards regarding the damaged army vehicle which had cameras installed. I would have no hesitation in reporting a vehicle used without insurance (never mind tax or MOT).
 
spongy said:
If he has no m.o.t he automatically has no insurance.

Spongy
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Not sure that is correct - I think the insurance says that the vehicle has to be in a road worthy condition.

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I take it you've been on www.gov.uk/check-mot-status
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I'd recommend avoiding any bad feelings or recriminations, keep your powder dry, and give a cheery wave.

How's it going? Weather's appalling isn't it?

Then quietly put his car on webuyanycar.com

Or fleabay motors.

It won't get rid of it but could be fun.
 
whats the age of the vehicles ?
many are mot exempt these days .
many get free road tax as well.
 
Not having a MOT doesn't necessarily mean no insurance - a car can be in a garage and not being used on the road so no tax or MOT but still have comp insurance.
 
Puddleduck said:
Not sure that is correct - I think the insurance says that the vehicle has to be in a road worthy condition.
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i agree duck we get so much of this on here about no insurance, the third party part of your insurance stays in place virtually no matter what. If you hit by a drunk driver you still get paid, if their licence has run out you still get paid if they have no tax you still get paid no mot you get paid third party insurance is a legal necessity and as such is extremely difficult for insurers to get out of . The comprehensive side is a different matter thats between you and the insurer and is a civil contract
 
If you aren't taxed then your not insured, that's what I was told regarding my deceased brothers car by his insurance company. As soon as DVLA were informed that he had died they refunded the tax and it was uninsured. I had to immediately change it into my daughters name and insure it. Luckily you don't have to wait for probate to do that.

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olley said:
If you aren't taxed then your not insured, that's what I was told regarding my deceased brothers car by his insurance company. As soon as DVLA were informed that he had died they refunded the tax and it was uninsured. I had to immediately change it into my daughters name and insure it. Luckily you don't have to wait for probate to do that.
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Or maybe it was uninsured because the policy holder had died?

If you can take an untaxed car to a garage to have it MOTed (has to be an appointment at the garage) then surely it will be insured as you drive it to the garage? I don't know 100% as our vehicles are always MOTed well before the due dates.
 
olley said:
If you aren't taxed then your not insured, that's what I was told regarding my deceased brothers car by his insurance company. As soon as DVLA were informed that he had died they refunded the tax and it was uninsured. I had to immediately change it into my daughters name and insure it. Luckily you don't have to wait for probate to do that.
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I would think that as soon as your brother died the insurance would be void anyway as it was in his name - however there may be an arrangement to continue cover for a set period but I should think it wouldn't be that long. As with all insurance policies you need to read the T&Cs as they do differ as to what they will cover and under what circumstances.
 
The insurance company were fine, they said it would remain insured until the DVLA cancelled the tax.
 
olley said:
If you aren't taxed then your not insured, that's what I was told regarding my deceased brothers car by his insurance company. As soon as DVLA were informed that he had died they refunded the tax and it was uninsured. I had to immediately change it into my daughters name and insure it. Luckily you don't have to wait for probate to do that.
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If the tax was cancelled by DVLA then it was automatically SORN by DVLA and should be removed from the road.
Nothing to do with insurance Ian.
No insurance doesn't make it unroadworthy, mechanical defects make it unroadworthy.
If its not used on public roads it can't be unroadworthy

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