No gas, full bottle!

Got to be worth trying the flush-out trick though, perhaps with some carb cleaner? I’m told there can sometimes be a build-up of gunk in the regulator.
 
ManTheVan said:
Got to be worth trying the flush-out trick though, perhaps with some carb cleaner? I’m told there can sometimes be a build-up of gunk in the regulator.
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Yes I agree it's worth a try. Just a little bit chary about removing the regulator.
Will pluck up the courage and have a go.
 
Pausim said:
Haven’t seen one that would fit a refillable bottle. Not sure they meet current regulations for motorhomes and caravans.
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Must meet regs as bottle top regulators are standard on Hymer's and Carthago's, the Truma is an option.

I keep a bottle top regulator as a backup the refillable bottles have the standard connector used on propane bottles in Germany & Belgium, bought mine in Belgium.
It's the same connection as UK butane bottles so a 28/30mb butane regulator will work.
 
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Ingwe said:
To those advocating using a bottle top regulator, can you please explain to me how you connect this up to the rigid 8mm copper tubing that carries the gas inside the van to the cooker, water heater etc? The one end screws into your bottle and then you have a length of rubber tubing. Is this just pushed over the copper tubing?
Sorry if I have misunderstood.
I have bottle top regulators for use on outdoor camping stove etc so am familiar with them. Just struggling to see how it is intended to replace the bulkhead regulator.
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I carry as a spare a bottle top regulator and a hose that connects on the regulator ant the other end has a fitting that screws straight on the gas pipe fitting where the regulator is fitted.

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matamoros said:
Push rubber pipe over copper pipe secure with suitable jubilee clip.
Or fix suitable connector same as on the regulator, to end of copper pipe and fix rubber pipe in the same manner.
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Not good practice for gas on a straight pipe better to buy the proper hose.
 
Lenny HB said:
I carry as a spare a bottle top regulator and a hose that connect on the regulator ant the other end has a fitting that screws straight on the gas pipe fitting where the regulator is fitted.
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Lenny HB-can you please let me have details of the fitting that screws onto the gas pipe fitting? I too am little unhappy about the idea of pushing a bit of rubber tube over rigid copper piping whether held with a jubilee clip or not.
 
Ingwe said:
Lenny HB-can you please let me have details of the fitting that screws onto the gas pipe fitting? I too am little unhappy about the idea of pushing a bit of rubber tube over rigid copper piping whether held with a jubilee clip or not.
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I think I have photo of it on my server if not I'll take a new pic tomorrow. Not sure if you can get them here it's a German fitting I bought from my Belgium dealer.
 
Lenny HB said:
Not good practice for gas on a straight pipe better to buy the proper hose.
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Ingwe said:
Lenny HB-can you please let me have details of the fitting that screws onto the gas pipe fitting? I too am little unhappy about the idea of pushing a bit of rubber tube over rigid copper piping whether held with a jubilee clip or not.
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Not best practice admittedly but has worked without problem many times, or use one of these that I mentioned in #59

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I have used these to easily change over different bottle top regulators

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If not confident then don't do it, safety must come first.
 
chaser said:
What sorts he got then?
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The principal is the same ,I have a french bottle with a different bottle top regulater but it still fits the rubber hose.
Btw in 60 years of useing gas bottles ,I have never had one block up.
 
Lenny HB said:
Refillable bottles they use the German propane connector which has a male thread the same as a UK butane bottle.
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So why won't they fit then, you only need a butane regulator
 
chaser said:
So why won't they fit then, you only need a butane regulator
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I said that eairler (post #63) your links were for a UK propane regulator which has a totally different fitting.

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Lenny HB said:
I said that eairler (post #63) your links were for a UK propane regulator which has a totally different fitting.
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Sorry missed your post but have put a link below edit, above :doh:
 
I know you can't be silly and you have to be very careful with something that can blow you up, but it is actually only gas going up a pipe whichever way you do it, why does it have to be so complicated?
 
Have you thought about trying your gas with the filter cartridge removed Ingwe ? I have not thought about this before but the cartridge might look clean on the outside but something could be blocking it from the inside, which is the side which would intercept any gunk.
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ManTheVan said:
I hope you’ve got it sorted by now Ingwe
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Not yet; it's been raining all day here in Burgundy and I haven't been out to the van. But hopefully, tomorrow the sun will return and I'll have a go.
 
Ingwe said:
Lenny HB-can you please let me have details of the fitting that screws onto the gas pipe fitting? I too am little unhappy about the idea of pushing a bit of rubber tube over rigid copper piping whether held with a jubilee clip or not.
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Here is what I carry as a backup.
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Ingwe said:
Lenny HB-can you please let me have details of the fitting that screws onto the gas pipe fitting? I too am little unhappy about the idea of pushing a bit of rubber tube over rigid copper piping whether held with a jubilee clip or not.
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Although not asking me here you go
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chaser said:
Although not asking me here you goView attachment 402513
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The problem with using those is you would have to remove the existing connector & cut the pipe down to get rid of the existing olive, not ideal when you come to fit a replacement regulator.
Much easier to carry the proper hose that just screws onto the existing connector.
 
Lenny HB said:
The problem with using those is you would have to remove the existing connector & cut the pipe down to get rid of the existing olive, not ideal when you come to fit a replacement regulator.
Much easier to carry the proper hose that just screws onto the existing connector.
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Not if you go for a bottle top regulater you would only have to do it once.

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Ok, by way of latest update. I've tried with the filter removed but the filter housing connected. No gas.
Tried without the Truma filter fitted at all. No gas.
Have removed the regulator from the van. There sounds like there's something loose inside, like a large nut or ball bearing. Is this normal? Is this the valve? There is no way, apart from cutting it open, to see what's inside.
If that loose item is normal, then I may put it back and see whether it works.
Some feed back would be most welcome.
p.s. When everything is disconnected and I turn on the gas, there is plenty of gas coming out. So I'm sure that the bottle is nearly full.
 
I've got a couple of Truma regulators in my spares box. One rattles slightly but not the other. Also have a spare Clesse bulkhead regulator, that definitely rattles but not excessively. Certainly doesn't sound as bad as a loose ball bearing in mine.
 
Felt optimistic that, having removed the regulator and hearing the rattle, that perhaps that had freed up a ball-valve sort of thing. So connected it up again, sprayed all joints with leak detector spray but again, no joy.
 

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