No gas, full bottle!

Well, just removed the pigtail from the bottle: turned bottle on, plenty of gas hissing out. Removed filter, almost pristine. Nothing blocked. Wiped everything down with a clean cloth put it all back and still nothing.
So conclude it's another failed Truma regulator. Why they allow such sh*t to be marketed, I just don't know. Will now need to find a French motorhome dealer and have a new bulkhead regulator fitted. It will NEVER be another Truma.
Ruined what has been our first trip away since lockdown. Our trip will now be considerably shortened.
 
The filters will fit a different regulator as they are only inline with the pigtail.
The Truma regulator is the only one with crash protection. So if you have got the newer bottles with the anti rupture you still wouldn't be able drive with the gas on with a different regulator.

Someone else mentioned the hight of the the regulator, 14kg cylinders are tall we have them. Our regulator is several inches above the cylinders which is imperative for the regulator to survive.
 
Another thought, have you made sure everything is turned off whilst resetting the green button on the regulator. It resets only after the pressure has built up, hence the need to hold it in for at least 10 seconds. It has never happened to me but if something was left open perhaps the pressure would not build up sufficiently to hold the reset. I find the locker key useful for holding the button fully in and once it has reset there is a small difference in the amount of pressure it takes to push it in a second time.
 
Ingwe said:
Well, just removed the pigtail from the bottle: turned bottle on, plenty of gas hissing out. Removed filter, almost pristine. Nothing blocked. Wiped everything down with a clean cloth put it all back and still nothing.
So conclude it's another failed Truma regulator. Why they allow such sh*t to be marketed, I just don't know. Will now need to find a French motorhome dealer and have a new bulkhead regulator fitted. It will NEVER be another Truma.
Ruined what has been our first trip away since lockdown. Our trip will now be considerably shortened.
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I always carry a bottle top regulator with a hose to bypass the Truma regulator. 6 years and 2 Motorhome with Turuma regulators, not needed it yet.

But did have a regulator on this van changed under warranty. It wasn't for gas flow problems the part that operates the C remote failed so we weren't getting any indication inside the van that the cylinders had swapped over.
 
Lenny HB said:
The filters will fit a different regulator as they are only inline with the pigtail.
The Truma regulator is the only one with crash protection. So if you have got the newer bottles with the anti rupture you still wouldn't be able drive with the gas on with a different regulator.

Someone else mentioned the hight of the the regulator, 14kg cylinders are tall we have them. Our regulator is several inches above the cylinders which is imperative for the regulator to survive.
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Thanks Lenny HB. Chris at Autogas 2000 who fitted our Truma filter and who raised our regulator from the position set by Bailey, said the position of the Alugas bottle and the regulator was fine.
Even though I have had the Truma Securemotion, I tended not to travel with the gas on in any event. So having a different regulator that requires the gas off whilst travelling is no set back.
Do you know whether Clesse make a 8mm regulator?
I've Googled them but their French web site is 'under construction'. I can't find their range of bulkhead regulators on the net.

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Pausim said:
Another thought, have you made sure everything is turned off whilst resetting the green button on the regulator. It resets only after the pressure has built up, hence the need to hold it in for at least 10 seconds. It has never happened to me but if something was left open perhaps the pressure would not build up sufficiently to hold the reset. I find the locker key useful for holding the button fully in and once it has reset there is a small difference in the amount of pressure it takes to push it in a second time.
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Yes, I tried that. Made sure nothing was turned on. Before trying the reset button.
 
I am sure you have checked, but are the gas manifold taps set to "on" ?
 
If you are fed up with The Truma Securemotion, and you are happy to drive with gas off, then have a look at GOK bulkhead regulators as they are fitted to a lot of vans. Less to go wrong I guess.
LES
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Ingwe said:
Thanks Lenny HB. Chris at Autogas 2000 who fitted our Truma filter and who raised our regulator from the position set by Bailey, said the position of the Alugas bottle and the regulator was fine.
Even though I have had the Truma Securemotion, I tended not to travel with the gas on in any event. So having a different regulator that requires the gas off whilst travelling is no set back.
Do you know whether Clesse make a 8mm regulator?
I've Googled them but their French web site is 'under construction'. I can't find their range of bulkhead regulators on the net.
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Yes they do a 30mb bulkhead regulator. On their UK site I could only find 37mb but found UK retailers with the 30mb ones for sale so should be able to get them in France. Will be a lot cheaper than Truma, saw the Truma ones on our dealers shelf €240.
 
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TinaL said:
If you are fed up with The Truma Securemotion, and you are happy to drive with gas off, then have a look at GOK bulkhead regulators as they are fitted to a lot of vans. Less to go wrong I guess.
LES
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Still a Truma. I've had two Truma regulators fail. Time to spend money on something more reliable.
 
Ingwe a couple of years ago open day at Auto-trail Factory was talking to Truma rep who said if you had inline filter fitted with new regulater and bill’s to prove it then Truma would pick up the bill.
I have no proof of this but that is what I was told at the time. I was quizzing him because I had one changed
at 10 months old under warranty and then fitted a filter not had any trouble since and run on auto gas.
cliff
 
Havnt read all replies so might have been mentioned, what's wrong with the old type regulater that you just put on the bottle. About a fiver, job done (y) :Smile:
 
chaser said:
Havnt read all replies so might have been mentioned, what's wrong with the old type regulater that you just put on the bottle. About a fiver, job done (y) :Smile:
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Haven’t seen one that would fit a refillable bottle. Not sure they meet current regulations for motorhomes and caravans.
 
Pausim said:
Haven’t seen one that would fit a refillable bottle. Not sure they meet current regulations for motorhomes and caravans.
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Makes no odds weather refillable or normal calor bottles same fitting

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chaser said:
Havnt read all replies so might have been mentioned, what's wrong with the old type regulater that you just put on the bottle. About a fiver, job done (y) :Smile:
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That's what I would be doing, it's not a legal requirement to have a bulkhead regulator and the opinion of many is that bottle top regulators are inherently safer.
 
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matamoros said:
That's what I would be doing, it's not a legal requirement to have a bulkhead regulator and the opinion of many is that bottle top regulators are inherently safer.
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The one on our gasit bottle was used in a caravan for about 20 years before I obtained it, still going fine.
 
Press the green button on the regulator right in, you will likely need a pencil end. You should hear the gas gurgle into the system. This happens after a long lay off.
Phil
 
gillnphil said:
Press the green button on the regulator right in, you will likely need a pencil end. You should hear the gas gurgle into the system. This happens after a long lay off.
Phil
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Tried this many times: no joy.
 
Don't know if you might have the old reg. but I remember reading of someone flushed their reg out with hot water and it worked.
 
Ingwe said:
Tried this many times: no joy.
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I can’t help thinking this has something to do with the problem. You could try flushing like bigtree said. I just had the same problem when I commissioned the van after a long winter/Covid lay off. Eventually it cleared itself and now it works fine.
Phil

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Pausim said:
Haven’t seen one that would fit a refillable bottle. Not sure they meet current regulations for motorhomes and caravans.
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underslung tanks come with a screw in regulator so i dont see any problem with one on a bottle
 
To those advocating using a bottle top regulator, can you please explain to me how you connect this up to the rigid 8mm copper tubing that carries the gas inside the van to the cooker, water heater etc? The one end screws into your bottle and then you have a length of rubber tubing. Is this just pushed over the copper tubing?
Sorry if I have misunderstood.
I have bottle top regulators for use on outdoor camping stove etc so am familiar with them. Just struggling to see how it is intended to replace the bulkhead regulator.
 
Ingwe said:
To those advocating using a bottle top regulator, can you please explain to me how you connect this up to the rigid 8mm copper tubing that carries the gas inside the van to the cooker, water heater etc? The one end screws into your bottle and then you have a length of rubber tubing. Is this just pushed over the copper tubing?
Sorry if I have misunderstood.
I have bottle top regulators for use on outdoor camping stove etc so am familiar with them. Just struggling to see how it is intended to replace the bulkhead regulator.
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Yes
Edit, like it's always been done (y)
 
Ingwe said:
To those advocating using a bottle top regulator, can you please explain to me how you connect this up to the rigid 8mm copper tubing that carries the gas inside the van to the cooker, water heater etc? The one end screws into your bottle and then you have a length of rubber tubing. Is this just pushed over the copper tubing?
Sorry if I have misunderstood.
I have bottle top regulators for use on outdoor camping stove etc so am familiar with them. Just struggling to see how it is intended to replace the bulkhead regulator.
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Push rubber pipe over copper pipe secure with suitable jubilee clip.
Or fix suitable connector same as on the regulator, to end of copper pipe and fix rubber pipe in the same manner.
 

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