New Gas conundrum! Fitting filler in locker door?

[125BEER]

Mine fitted in door,no problems.

 

[Spriddler]

My Gaslow refillables are the only things in the gas locker. The external filler is in the locker door so in 7 years I've rarely had to open it.

 

[Stealaway]

That leaves the last option which is the filler fitted to the locker door.

Isn't there any room for it to one side or other of the door. I've just got about three inches on my Burstner

 

[Jimbohorlicks]

If you do fit a filler cap in the door when you fill up don't open the door as the fill pipes will be cold and potentially brittle. Allow them to warm up for 10 mins at least before you put any strain on the pipework.

 

[Basildog]

For those promoting the filler in the door , wait until the filler hose bursts !
Customer of ours along with our fitter had a hose failure in the locker whilst filling
It stresses the hose so it’s more when it’s going to fail than if

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[HugoBNB]

When I bought my kit, I was intending to fit the filler to the locker door as the skirt seemed to flimsy. but when I looked at the options, I decided (for reasons noted already on this thread) that could be a pain and went for the Skirt option instead.
To counter the 'flimsiness', I fitted the filler in the skirt equidistant between two existing support struts for maximum strength and I think that has been fine without the need to add anything else.
If I were installing another one, knowing what I know now, I would do exactly the same bar getting a filler in Black instead of White (got in White to match the gas locker door)

I have a system to put in our MH in a couple of weeks. The skirt appears to be similar to what you and others have described. Thank you for sharing your experience, I am going to go the same route as you.
Thanks to all other posters here. All very helpful.

 

[gpat]

You'll be the one grovelling around at floor level to fill then!

To be fair it's not too bad at all. It's on a level with the door its handily placed. Being German the skirt is immensely rigid too.

 

[Brains]

For those promoting the filler in the door , wait until the filler hose bursts !
Customer of ours along with our fitter had a hose failure in the locker whilst filling
It stresses the hose so it’s more when it’s going to fail than if

Perhaps you should have a word with a well known very reputable company on this forum, know as an installer of motorhome extras that includes alarms, Battery masters, solar, and gaslow with filling points in the locker door.

 

[Pappy]

I've just had Gaslow fitted. The filler point is in the locker door with stainless steel hose behind. Fitted by Notts County Campers, who have a good reputation. Should I be nervous?

 

[Basildog]

To be fair it's not too bad at all. It's on a level with the door its handily placed. Being German the skirt is immensely rigid too.View attachment 583272

And right next to a flue
Minimum 500mm clearance required .
Chances of the heating being on some will say is unlikely . but if it’s possible then someone will do it .

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[Lenny HB]

I've just had Gaslow fitted. The filler point is in the locker door with stainless steel hose behind. Fitted by Notts County Campers, who have a good reputation. Should I be nervous?

If its a stainless steel hose yes, they are not designed to flexed regularly.

 

[gpat]

And right next to a flue
Minimum 500mm clearance required .
Chances of the heating being on some will say is unlikely . but if it’s possible then someone will do it .

I'll live with that risk I think. It was actually professionally fitted

 

[Spriddler]

I've just had Gaslow fitted. The filler point is in the locker door with stainless steel hose behind. Fitted by Notts County Campers, who have a good reputation. Should I be nervous?

I'm not nervous since if the filling hose failed it would only release the small amount of gas that's between the door (or body) mounted filler unit and the cylinders. No gas would escape from the the actual cylinders because each cylinder has an integral non-return valve at its filling point. If the hose failed when filling I would hear/see/smell the gas escaping inside the locker and stop filling instantly.
I fitted my filler in the gas locker door with a right-angled connector according to Gaslow's own installation leaflet.......

 

[gpat]

I think the locker door install might be an issue if you were filling the tank 200 times a day 365 days a year.

You would probably wear the door hinges out first before fatigue broke the hose!

 

[Pappy]

I'm not nervous since if the filling hose failed it would only release the small amount of gas that's between the door (or body) mounted filler unit and the cylinders. No gas would escape from the the actual cylinders because each cylinder has an integral non-return valve at its filling point. If the hose failed when filling I would hear/see/smell the gas escaping inside the locker and stop filling instantly.
I fitted my filler in the gas locker door with a right-angled connector according to Gaslow's own installation leaflet.......

View attachment 583276

This is mine.

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[Spriddler]

I think the locker door install might be an issue if you were filling the tank 200 times a day 365 days a year.

You would probably wear the door hinges out first before fatigue broke the hose!

Indeed so. I reckon there's a far greater gas leakage risk from exchange cylinders which have pigtails that are frequently connected and disconnected.
I've read several posts about leaks from folk who have unknowingly dropped and then left out the connector sealing washer or have cross-threaded the metal fitting on the pigtail when screwing it to the cylinder.

 

[jezport]

Some people just wont accept that there is a wrong and a right way to do it.
If you did a dodgy gas installation on a house you would be put in prison.
A professional who fits these systems every day offers free advice. Take it!

 

[Pappy]

Some people just wont accept that there is a wrong and a right way to do it.
If you did a dodgy gas installation on a house you would be put in prison.
A professional who fits these systems every day offers free advice. Take it!

Not sure how that helps me?

 

[gpat]

Not sure how that helps me?

I'm not sure who the post is aimed at!

 

[jezport]

Not sure how that helps me?

I trusted my van to Autogas 2000 at Thirsk. It was done right with an installation certificate.
I would ask them why fit did they fit the filler on a door when the experts say dont.

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[Spriddler]

This is mine.View attachment 583278

I'm no expert but I wouldn't be satisfied with the weight at the bend of the filling hose being unsupported as noted in pic below.
Or I would fit a right-angled connector at the top of the bottle pointing 'towards me' (if that's possible) to eliminate having the filling hose pointing upwards from the bottle before looping down and then up again in order to be connected to the door filler unit.

 

[Spriddler]

I trusted my van to Autogas 2000 at Thirsk. It was done right with an installation certificate.
I would ask them why fit did they fit the filler on a door when the experts say dont.

Gaslow, the manufacturers, are probably experts of their own products.

 

[Basildog]

I trusted my van to Autogas 2000 at Thirsk. It was done right with an installation certificate.
I would ask them why fit did they fit the filler on a door when the experts say dont.

I own Autogas 2000
We advise people not to but if there is no other ,choice we will occasionally fit the filler in the door with the appropriate elbow , allowing the pipe to relax and making sure it’s not stressed .
We advise the owners appropriately, unfortunately too many dealers throw the filler points in doors as it’s the quickest and easiest route .

 

[Stealaway]

Surely if you drill a hole in the door you have to let the whole kit go when you sell the van as a free extra?

 

[Pappy]

I emailed Gaslow. Very fast, helpful and friendly response. Carl said installation looks fine but suggested an elbow fitting on the door and the rear cylinder.

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[jezport]

I emailed Gaslow. Very fast, helpful and friendly response. Carl said installation looks fine but suggested an elbow fitting on the door and the rear cylinder.

Fine but, 2 alterations. So not really fine

 

[Spriddler]

Surely if you drill a hole in the door you have to let the whole kit go when you sell the van as a free extra?

No. You just fit a discreet plastic louvred vent over the hole. On the inside as well as the outside if you feel you must.
What could be more normal than a vent in a locker door?
My gas locker door already had two vents when new.

 

[Jimbohorlicks]

I'm no expert but I wouldn't be satisfied with the weight at the bend of the filling hose being unsupported as noted in pic below.
Or I would fit a right-angled connector at the top of the bottle pointing 'towards me' (if that's possible) to eliminate having the filling hose pointing upwards from the bottle before looping down and then up again in order to be connected to the door filler unit.
View attachment 583290

That really needs an elbow on the door side to allow the hose to hang down rather than being pushed back into the locker.

 

[funflair]

For sure Gaslow stainless steel hoses don't like flexing too much, I found that out the first time we filled our first van, I had never filled gas before so somebody else was doing it and we were chatting but I did know that liquid gas should not be running out of the bottom of the gas locker.

Yes the filler was in the door and I would not encourage it.

 

[HugoBNB]

Surely if you drill a hole in the door you have to let the whole kit go when you sell the van as a free extra?

You could leave the filler head in and take the rest. However, the logic for not putting it in the door in the first instance seems compelling.
Safe travels all

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