MOTORHOME AVERAGE PAYLOAD

[Lenny HB]

That said we are still selling Satellite TV systems to older folk, who don't Intend going abroad, who would rather push a button and watch telly than buy streaming devices and learn how to use them

Oy, watch it most of us on here are older folk but we know what we are doing.

 

[Jim]

Here’s the brochure and price / options lists for 2019

https://www.adria-motorhomes.co.uk/sites/default/files/products/brochure/van_brochure_pricelist.pdf

Payloads given on second to last page.

But the DC variant is listed as TBA

So given the weigh in above that van has a payload of 245KG. No wonder they didn't want to put it in their brochure TBA or CBA .

 

[Candapack]

Here’s the brochure and price / options lists for 2019

https://www.adria-motorhomes.co.uk/sites/default/files/products/brochure/van_brochure_pricelist.pdf

Payloads given on second to last page.

But the DC variant is listed as TBA

Jings, there are some appalling payloads quoted there. A 4 Berth van with 4 seatbelts, and a payload of 263kg.

 

[Lenny HB]

So given the weigh in above that van has a payload of 245KG. No wonder they didn't want to put it in their brochure TBA or CBA .

We need an OMG reaction best I could do was a funny but it's not really funny.

 

[Lenny HB]

Jings, there are some appalling payloads quoted there. A 4 Berth van with 4 seatbelts, and a payload of 263kg.

Only fit for a spare bedroom on the drive.

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[carolyn]

We found all the figures so confusing so 2 years ago went to the weighbridge when we were fully loaded ready for a winter trip to Spain which is when we are at our heaviest as we’d just bought electric bikes to mount on our towball mounted bike rack. We have a 2015 IH630RD Fiat Ducato 130 bph manual with barn doors so bottom end! Awning, solar, quest popup table chairs, full tank of fuel , water, lpg, cupboards stuffed, fridge jammed, boot even had about 20 cans of Nick’s cider to break him in gently.
We are not large people, Nick is about 75kg and I’m less, obviously there were shoes.
We weighed in at 3520 and were not overweight on the rear axle, can’t find the bit of paper, plenty of leeway.
We did run out some of the fresh water just in case but in reality we felt quite reassured that usually we were under.

However our new van is going to be an Automatic and heavier I think so in the interests of “elf and safety” I have lost a stone, every little helps!

I really don’t know why people nitpick Jim’s average, I think it’s a helpful guide, or would have done in the beginning. I can’t believe the stupid things we did when we bought our old Symbol, thank god for Motorhomefun.

 

[Lenny HB]

Although I always harp on about needing 700 kg payload for 2.
Our first Hymer only had 350 but it was a special edition. It had TV, Oyster sat, surround sound with subwoofer, TecTower etc., as standard. By the time I'd added a solar panel, 2nd battery, bike rack & awning we were down to about 270.
With 75% water and fuel, bikes on the back we were just in at 3500.
But we didn't have e-bikes then and we are lightweights, me 75kg & her 44kg.

No way I would want to run that tight again we like to be fully self sufficient nowdays, even carry a washing machine. Nice not having to worry about what you throw in the van.

 

[138go]

A lot of members don’t realise the amount of time and effort Jim puts in ‘behind the scenes’ so as to speak, finding out what’s happening in the industry

We bought our new camper last year and debated if it was worth fitting a satellite system, and remember discussing satellite sales with him

We are looking at a new van tomorrow and it comes fully 5G and WiFi ready, with interconnection to the three TV’s no mention of satellite TV and I certainly won’t bother getting one fitted.

That said we are still selling Satellite TV systems to older folk, who don't Intend going abroad, who would rather push a button and watch telly than buy streaming devices and learn how to use them

Jim as with others on here are running busineses and making a nice living out of providing services for Motorhomers.

 

[Minxy]

Jim as with others on here are running busineses and making a nice living out of providing services for Motorhomers.

Jim isn't your 'usual' business man, yes he does make a living out of it and why not, he could have an even easier time if he'd sold it when someone wanted to pay silly money for it but chose not to so. To him its not 'just' a business. He's seen what happened when something like this got sold to investors and goes down the pan to the detriment of the site and members (now I wonder which site that was ... ).

He values his friendship with lots of funsters and many are in effect his extended 'family' so he's certainly NOT just in it for the money and I suspect he gets more 'value' out of it than any monetary figure could give him.

 

[Servo]

I really don’t know why people nitpick Jim’s average,

It seems to be a sport on here and not just at Jim , sorry just an observation.???

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[eddie]

Jim as with others on here are running busineses and making a nice living out of providing services for Motorhomers.

Oooo Kay.... Thanks for that ?

 

[Jim]

Jim as with others on here are running busineses and making a nice living out of providing services for Motorhomers.

Could you expand on that as I'm not sure what point you are making.

 

[eddie]

Jim isn't your 'usual' business man, yes he does make a living out of it and why not, he could have an even easier time if he'd sold it when someone wanted to pay silly money for it but chose not to so. To him its not 'just' a business. He's seen what happened when something like this got sold to investors and goes down the pan to the detriment of the site and members (now I wonder which site that was ... ).

He values his friendship with lots of funsters and many are in effect his extended 'family' so he's certainly NOT just in it for the money and I suspect he gets more 'value' out of it than any monetary figure could give him.

Go Minxy

 

[Wagoneer]

We are looking at a new van tomorrow and it comes fully 5G and WiFi ready, with interconnection to the three TV’s no mention of satellite TV and I certainly won’t bother getting one fitted.

In that case, don't stay stay at a certain campsite in the New Forest, just east of Ringwood. No mobile signal at all within the camping ground and that was with an antenna attached to the MiFi. Even the staff had to walk up the hill to higher ground to receive a 1 bar signal on their phones.

 

[mitzimad]

In that case, don't stay stay at a certain campsite in the New Forest, just east of Ringwood. No mobile signal at all within the camping ground and that was with an antenna attached to the MiFi. Even the staff had to walk up the hill to higher ground to receive a 1 bar signal on their phones.

just as many black spots for dishes trees being the worst culprits getting a sat signal in a forest would be a result

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[Jim]

just as many black spots for dishes

At a rally a few years ago I watched a Funster move three times. First he would spin his dish around for 10 minutes, decide it was a no go (trees) then move and try again, as time ticked by he became desperate not to incur the wrath of his Mrs; explaining that if she missed Eastenders his life would end. These days he would have just streamed it or caught it later on catchup ;'

 

[596]

At a rally a few years ago I watched a Funster move three times. First he would spin his dish around for 10 minutes, decide it was a no go (trees) then move and try again, as time ticked by he became desperate not to incur the wrath of his Mrs; explaining that if she missed Eastenders his life would end. These days he would have just streamed it or caught to later on catchup ;'

Exactly, times have changed, the days when you had to sit in a certain room with a cord to watch the one telly you had and all watch one of the two channels or three if you were lucky have gone, same goes for having to watch at the time they broadcast or you missed it, same as having a fixed phone in your hallway! These days have long gone, now you stream, watch what you want when you want, everyone can watch what they want, people can answer a phone on the top of Everest if they want or the middle of the Pacific Ocean (Satellite), so what is it with these old fashioned dishes, they WILL be in museums one day if not already, I just find it hilarious watching the time people waste trying to tune these things in, not knocking it, you do as you wish, but remember you only have so many heart beats and do you want top waste them spinning a dish?

I guess the only downside to all the above is the social aspect, everyone seems to be in different rooms, but then you have to work around that and ensure you get a balance. If you want to get young kids in your van you need to be up to date or they won't get in, I will now have a smart TV and a treat box (healthy snacks), I also have a cupboard of traditional games if they fancy playing, I think its nice to have young kids that want to be in your van and not think of you as boring old people

 

[596]

By kids I meant grandkids

 

[Candapack]

Have just changed to a 2014 Hobby, and was rechecking the payload figures as a result of this thread. I knew the figure was 600kg which is fine, but I wasn't aware that different manufacturers calculate it in various ways. So I was delighted to see that for Hobby, their MIRO includes fresh water and gas both filled to 90%, which gives me another 100kg to play with for Mrs C to take more clothes

 

[Larrynwin]

As casual , fit it in when we can , a week or so at a time travellers we only carry a couple of payg data sims around 6gb for browsing as a large capacity of data or a contract would just be wasted.
With that in mind for tv we use either our Roadpro dome or built in terrestrial aerial , streaming would not be economical for us.

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[CazPaul]

Although I always harp on about needing 700 kg payload for 2.
Our first Hymer only had 350 but it was a special edition. It had TV, Oyster sat, surround sound with subwoofer, TecTower etc., as standard. By the time I'd added a solar panel, 2nd battery, bike rack & awning we were down to about 270.
With 75% water and fuel, bikes on the back we were just in at 3500.
But we didn't have e-bikes then and we are lightweights, me 75kg & her 44kg.

No way I would want to run that tight again we like to be fully self sufficient nowdays, even carry a washing machine. Nice not having to worry about what you throw in the van.

Wow your wife is less than 7 stone. My wife's handbag weighs nearly that.

 

[PeteH]

Wow your wife is less than 7 stone. My wife's handbag weighs nearly that.

MOST. Modern day handbags are around the size like what my Mother used to get the whole weeks shop in!. One young woman hung her "bag" on those hooks they have on some bars for the said purpose, and it pulled the bloody screws out!.

 

[Pausim]

I had my motorhome weighed by the dealer when it arrived on his forecourt. Today I weighed it with two adults and full kit for a 10 day outing. The figures seem pretty much in line with those Jim has been compiling. I will not bore you all with my calculations but I would say we were within 20kg of Jim’s 403kg given at #191.

 

[DDJC]

Top tip to stop agonising about weight!

Get a toad and think of it as a trailer full of 100 kilos of stuff that you can nip down to the shops in, to get 100 kilos more stuff.

It's even got its own tow bar so can move its own trailer in tight spaces. Note Mrs DDJC putting the straps on - it IS her car after all.

For sale:
Luggage scales

 

[pelican]

Oy, watch it most of us on here are older folk but we know what we are doing.

GOD doesn't this keep all you posters busy
Away at the moment and not to conerned we might be a little heavy we dont carry a load of unnecessary crap like we see display on sites

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[DDJC]

Have just changed to a 2014 Hobby, and was rechecking the payload figures as a result of this thread. I knew the figure was 600kg which is fine, but I wasn't aware that different manufacturers calculate it in various ways. So I was delighted to see that for Hobby, their MIRO includes fresh water and gas both filled to 90%, which gives me another 100kg to play with for Mrs C to take more clothes

We bought new with the intention of it needing to last at least seven years. Did a huge amount of work researching MIROs, what constituted as being part of a MIRO, the available luggage weight etc, etc, etc.

My conclusion was that the manufacture's and dealers statement of a vehicle's MIRO comes direct from the back end of a horse
There is no standardisation of how weights are calculated, so if you want to buy a moho, get it on a weighbridge first.

Or, get a toad and forget about weight

 

[gus-lopez]

These days have long gone, now you stream, watch what you want when you want, everyone can watch what they want, people can answer a phone on the top of Everest if they want

apart from the numerous places all over the Uk & elsewhere where there is no signal. Inside North Devon hospital, using 3, this afternoon being one such place.

 

[tonyidle]

Exactly, times have changed, the days when you had to sit in a certain room with a cord to watch the one telly you had and all watch one of the two channels or three if you were lucky have gone, same goes for having to watch at the time they broadcast or you missed it, same as having a fixed phone in your hallway! These days have long gone, now you stream, watch what you want when you want, everyone can watch what they want, people can answer a phone on the top of Everest if they want or the middle of the Pacific Ocean (Satellite), so what is it with these old fashioned dishes, they WILL be in museums one day if not already, I just find it hilarious watching the time people waste trying to tune these things in, not knocking it, you do as you wish, but remember you only have so many heart beats and do you want top waste them spinning a dish?

I guess the only downside to all the above is the social aspect, everyone seems to be in different rooms, but then you have to work around that and ensure you get a balance. If you want to get young kids in your van you need to be up to date or they won't get in, I will now have a smart TV and a treat box (healthy snacks), I also have a cupboard of traditional games if they fancy playing, I think its nice to have young kids that want to be in your van and not think of you as boring old people

I agree to an extent. What I'll never understand is the assumption that it's important to have TV available everywhere, all the time. At home we have one 65" smart TV that is not in the living room and we have Sky Q with a minimal package. We watch a couple of hours of recorded TV before we go to bed. And that's it. To me time spent watching TV is time totally wasted. I watch one two-week sporting event per year. In the mh we watch perhaps two hours per week (including maybe a DVD) unless we hear of really important breaking news on the radio. A sat dish suits this use. The van came with an auto dish on the roof so one button push, a couple on the remote and we have what we want. Then I lower the dish until next time. For me the auto dish is ideal for those who, like us, watch very little TV.

We also carry, and use, a tablet each, a smartphone each, and a laptop.

 

[Reallyretired]

Swmbo said we must have a new tv in the mh as the old one was duff. In a year and a half since we got it it has only been switched on once. I just cant see the point of tv, dont watch it at home so definitely not when away.

 

[Pausim]

Get a toad and think of it as a trailer full of 100 kilos of stuff that you can nip down to the shops in, to get 100 kilos more stuff.

I agree with that but I thought “toad” was an American term adopted to distinguish flat towed vehicles (A frame) from trailer towed and dolly towed cars. Just thought I would introduce a different point of contention because I am getting a bit bored with whether a satellite dish is essential .

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