Motorhome attacked while sleeping

[monzer]

wizardinthewild Hope you don't take it too personally. Young idiots with nothing better to do. I know it must have been scary but just remember there was a reason they didn't stick around, they would have sh*t it if they had been confronted.

 

[bilM]

they would have sh*t it if they had been confronted.

I don't think there would have been a lot of sh*ting going on if they had been from Northfield.

 

[robmilton]

I had a narrowboat for seven years and the only place i ever encountered trouble was around dunham massey, had banging on the boat in the early hours a couple of times and set adrift, and 3/4 of a tank of diesel syphoned off one evening while we were at the pub.

 

[Christy]

It was a very long and boring video with endless views of the motorway. I can understand it was scary and how upset they may be but that could have been put across in 5 mins not 20. Sorry but "less is more"

 

[Dear Ducato]

I can understand filming the results of the attack, either for evidence or insurance claim, but why did they not immediately call the Police, even if the Police could not help much in this sort of vandalising attacks, at least they would have a crime reference number to add to any insurance claim. Also, how can you drive-especially at night- with a television screen stuck on the dashboard? If I remember correctly, the Highway Code stated that 'no tv screen or a screen of any sort, should be visible to the driver.' That is the reason all the TV's on our coaches were placed behind the driver and above the front seats on our coaches. The times that I have heard Shirley Bloody Valentine on the autoroute back from Paris! Didn't see the film until I saw it on television at home. Too much reliance is placed so -called modern technology these days. If you cannot plan your route with a map, go on Google maps and drive it on street view, that way you will not need a map as you will recognise the roads and what to look out for. I still use good maps for touring, although that is mainly in France. Finding your way as a driver is all part of the pleasure of doing it. If you don't get lost, you won't know how to find your way!

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[hja]

I can understand filming the results of the attack, either for evidence or insurance claim, but why did they not immediately call the Police, even if the Police could not help much in this sort of vandalising attacks, at least they would have a crime reference number to add to any insurance claim. Also, how can you drive-especially at night- with a television screen stuck on the dashboard? If I remember correctly, the Highway Code stated that 'no tv screen or a screen of any sort, should be visible to the driver.' That is the reason all the TV's on our coaches were placed behind the driver and above the front seats on our coaches. The times that I have heard Shirley Bloody Valentine on the autoroute back from Paris! Didn't see the film until I saw it on television at home. Too much reliance is placed so -called modern technology these days. If you cannot plan your route with a map, go on Google maps and drive it on street view, that way you will not need a map as you will recognise the roads and what to look out for. I still use good maps for touring, although that is mainly in France. Finding your way as a driver is all part of the pleasure of doing it. If you don't get lost, you won't know how to find your way!

They did call the police. They also reported that the police were very sympathetic. So presumably they would have got a crime reference number. I don’t know exactly when they called them but even if it was immediately the incident happened, the police are not going to come straight out, and there is nothing they could do if they did.

 

[Minxy]

They did call the police. They also reported that the police were very sympathetic. So presumably they would have got a crime reference number. I don’t know exactly when they called them but even if it was immediately the incident happened, the police are not going to come straight out, and there is nothing they could do if they did.

If it's anything like our experience in Holland they do NOT come out ... you have to drive to the nearest Police station to report it in person, in our case it was 20km at 3.00 am!

 

[steve69]

This kind of thing has happened now and again for decades. In 1988 I was asleep in my small family tent at a municipal campsite in Edinburgh when i was burgled one night! I slept through it all but my car-keys & wallet were missing and my car - not stolen - but rummaged through & stuff taken from there. The policman just said - we get a call about once a fortnight from here - it happens that often!
You don't have to wildcamp for this to happen.

 

[IRHP]

This kind of thing has happened now and again for decades. In 1988 I was asleep in my small family tent at a municipal campsite in Edinburgh when i was burgled one night! I slept through it all but my car-keys & wallet were missing and my car - not stolen - but rummaged through & stuff taken from there. The policman just said - we get a call about once a fortnight from here - it happens that often!
You don't have to wildcamp for this to happen.

If it's the one next to Muirhouse I'm not surprised

 

[steve69]

If it's the one next to Muirhouse I'm not surprised

There was a golf course next door and beyond that - the drugs capital of Edinburgh (the policeman said).

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[IRHP]

There was a golf course next door and beyond that - the drugs capital of Edinburgh (the policeman said).

Think Trainspotting

 

[Tony50]

Sadly in Modern Britain Scrotes appear to be everywhere, when we had Police in communities from the smallest village upwards this low life was dealt with, now we have little to zero Police presence the Scrotes know it and are free to move among us.

We had 4 Police in the town Saturday !! , unusual for us to see so many, but they were holding a public consultation for the General public to make their concerns to the Police, what a waste of resources, when you want a copper they are never there when you don't want one, they are there.
I do feel so sorry for the couple, wherever you park up you should feel and be safe, of course you would feel a whole lot safer if you knew there was a copper about!!

 

[stewartwebr]

Dreadful thing to happen, mindless crime which shall have certainly shocked them. I feel for them.
However, must say I cannot get my head around this new craze to record and become internet stars. I have watched a few of the Roaming Rumford's videos and ask myself if they actually enjoy anywhere they visit as it appears to be constant filming, even having lunch in McDonalds. Guess it must be lucrative given the advertising logos all over their motorhome. Cetainly, not for me in terms of both the filming and being the "stars"

 

[VXman]

I can understand filming the results of the attack, either for evidence or insurance claim, but why did they not immediately call the Police, even if the Police could not help much in this sort of vandalising attacks, at least they would have a crime reference number to add to any insurance claim. Also, how can you drive-especially at night- with a television screen stuck on the dashboard? If I remember correctly, the Highway Code stated that 'no tv screen or a screen of any sort, should be visible to the driver.' That is the reason all the TV's on our coaches were placed behind the driver and above the front seats on our coaches. The times that I have heard Shirley Bloody Valentine on the autoroute back from Paris! Didn't see the film until I saw it on television at home. Too much reliance is placed so -called modern technology these days. If you cannot plan your route with a map, go on Google maps and drive it on street view, that way you will not need a map as you will recognise the roads and what to look out for. I still use good maps for touring, although that is mainly in France. Finding your way as a driver is all part of the pleasure of doing it. If you don't get lost, you won't know how to find your way!

'TV screens' as you put it, are common in modern cars nowadays. They are used for sat nav, radio, music and some for a range of car rlate controls. Try sitting in a Tesla, it has a massive screen which contains virtually all the controls.

My old Rover 75 had a TV screen viewable by the driver but the TV picture turned off as soon as you started moving.

Myy Fiat Ducato has a nice big iPad/tablet holder built in.

You'll love the new Ducato dash....

 

[The Wino]

I watched the first couple of minutes aren't they livewires!!. I take it they were bricked when wildcamping. Yes it's a really nasty thing to happen but then so is a lot of vandalism. I suppose it's a risk you take if you wild a lot we only have in Scotland and it does feel a bit uncomfortable when you're not used to it.

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[dawsey]

What we do to avoid any possibility of such unpleasantness when wilding is, if at all possible, to be invisible. If the type of individual/s who might be inclined to put a brick through a window, shoot air weapons or worse happen to present wherever you may be, if they don’t know you’re there they can’t do anything. Some fear isolating themselves from other people, the thing to remember is that it is only ever other people who may present a threat. When we wild we avoid settlements of any size, find the smallest country lane and then a tiny woodland track and get behind trees. Contrary to the movies, your average scrotes and psychos don’t tend to be roaming the boonies at night, they will be in or just outside the nearest flat-roof pub on their estate. Being discreet is easy on the continent in the bigger countries, less so in UK (esp south). It’s fair to say UK is more dangerous than other countries due to loads of things: the vast amount of feral youth, a high degree of inherent pettiness/nimbyness/intolerance, and the way that anyone in a camper is viewed in the same way as a gypsy or traveller. Cities and towns in UK are absolutely to be avoided if wilding, even villages often have clusters of youths hanging around looking for an opportunity to spoil someone’s day.

In general, there just aren’t the same issues on the continent except maybe bits of southern Italy, and eastern Europe. On the continent the only times we’ve realised we’ve made a mistake has been in remote-ish car parks outside towns in South of France, Italy, Spain and Portugal where the local youth will often congregate for the evening to socialise, often being quite organised and bringing generators and pop up bars etc. This has happened a few times, but interestingly, every time, while noisily drinking and enjoying themselves until 2 or 3am, they always totally ignore the camper - I wouldn’t like to think what would happen parking in a car park where the local youth congregated in UK….

 

[iandsm]

We had 4 Police in the town Saturday !! , unusual for us to see so many, but they were holding a public consultation for the General public to make their concerns to the Police, what a waste of resources, when you want a copper they are never there when you don't want one, they are there.
I do feel so sorry for the couple, wherever you park up you should feel and be safe, of course you would feel a whole lot safer if you knew there was a copper about!!

Some people are never satisfied and probably never will be, they complain about the police but when the police arrange a consultation for the public to voice their concerns so they can perhaps take note and within available resources try to do something to address concerns raised, some members of the public even complain about being consulted.

 

[Tony50]

Some people are never satisfied and probably never will be, they complain about the police but when the police arrange a consultation for the public to voice their concerns so they can perhaps take note and within available resources try to do something to address concerns raised, some members of the public even complain about being consulted.

There are 3 Police Stations in the whole of Suffolk, the town I live in has around 35000 inhabitants, when we said we wanted to keep our Police Station did anyone listen ? No.
In Ipswich live 136000 inhabitants, one of 3 Police Stations is there , a couple years ago we needed some advice it took us ages to find the Police Station which was down a side Street, if you just look at crime figures you will see PR exercises are not the answer Police on the beat are. Riding about in Police cars and extortionately expensive helicopters is not the answer also

 

[iandsm]

There are 3 Police Stations in the whole of Suffolk, the town I live in has around 35000 inhabitants, when we said we wanted to keep our Police Station did anyone listen ? No.
In Ipswich live 136000 inhabitants, one of 3 Police Stations is there , a couple years ago we needed some advice it took us ages to find the Police Station which was down a side Street, if you just look at crime figures you will see PR exercises are not the answer Police on the beat are. Riding about in Police cars and extortionately expensive helicopters is not the answer also

Yes, but there will never be enough officers on the beat, times have changed and when you need someone to turn up you have a better chance if the officer is in a car as opposed to on foot or a bike. I do agree that the closure of police stations is deplorable but the Constabulary has to work within it's means which are very restricted and I don't think ever likely to get better, whatever government we have. There was a time for beat officers because they knew people on their patch and crime was, in the main, local. Now crime is not so localised and many people who commit crime travel to do so, there is therefore little local intelligence upon which to base an investigation. Safer Neighbourhood teams have replaced beat officers and have had some good results but they do not have such intimate knowledge local issues, they tend to be reactive as opposed to the previous beat officers who were preventive simply because the scroats knew they were known. I remember when I was a working detective that speaking to local officers was usually productive when investigating a crime, they often knew who the likely suspects were, or if they didn't they could suggest people to talk to. Now, with the lack of local knowledge things are very much more difficult.

As to helicopters, they are expensive which is why Constabularies share them but they do have a place in crime detection and saving lives in certain circumstances.

How we police in the face of travelling criminals, especially with the ever increasing drug trade is a subject that could be debated ad nauseam. It will be a very clever Home Secretary who is able to come up with something that pleases everyone. An impossible task I think.

 

[The general]

Think Trainspotting

No thank you , the toilet was disgraceful !

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[Tony50]

Yes, but there will never be enough officers on the beat, times have changed and when you need someone to turn up you have a better chance if the officer is in a car as opposed to on foot or a bike. I do agree that the closure of police stations is deplorable but the Constabulary has to work within it's means which are very restricted and I don't think ever likely to get better, whatever government we have. There was a time for beat officers because they knew people on their patch and crime was, in the main, local. Now crime is not so localised and many people who commit crime travel to do so, there is therefore little local intelligence upon which to base an investigation. Safer Neighbourhood teams have replaced beat officers and have had some good results but they do not have such intimate knowledge local issues, they tend to be reactive as opposed to the previous beat officers who were preventive simply because the scroats knew they were known. I remember when I was a working detective that speaking to local officers was usually productive when investigating a crime, they often knew who the likely suspects were, or if they didn't they could suggest people to talk to. Now, with the lack of local knowledge things are very much more difficult.

As to helicopters, they are expensive which is why Constabularies share them but they do have a place in crime detection and saving lives in certain circumstances.

How we police in the face of travelling criminals, especially with the ever increasing drug trade is a subject that could be debated ad nauseam. It will be a very clever Home Secretary who is able to come up with something that pleases everyone. An impossible task I think.

Impossible to please everyone I agree, helicopters, my son's a pilot flying similar to Police, cost is he says absolutely enormous, we both went on a visit to a Police helicopter base , pilot didn't know my son Pilot this helicopter costs to maintain and fuel about the same as a 2 Squad cars and personnal, my son told me he's unrealistic, about the cost, as an example , flew me and my wife from Manston ,Kent down to London bridge coming back we had to part refuel at Gillingham £200 just enough to get us back

 

[Nanniemate]

Sad that this has happened, I would not want to drive for 200 miles with a side window you could not see out of. It would be interesting how they dealt with junctions
Didn't watch it all but appears the guard doggies didn't. Brave man to step outside if it was me, I think I would have hit all the alarms jumped into the driver's seat and away. But I dont have blinds, you read all these suggestions about safety when wilding, but you never know until it happens to you how you would react.
'There but for the grace of god'
Safe travels peeps

 

[Nanniemate]

What we do to avoid any possibility of such unpleasantness when wilding is, if at all possible, to be invisible. If the type of individual/s who might be inclined to put a brick through a window, shoot air weapons or worse happen to present wherever you may be, if they don’t know you’re there they can’t do anything. Some fear isolating themselves from other people, the thing to remember is that it is only ever other people who may present a threat. When we wild we avoid settlements of any size, find the smallest country lane and then a tiny woodland track and get behind trees. Contrary to the movies, your average scrotes and psychos don’t tend to be roaming the boonies at night, they will be in or just outside the nearest flat-roof pub on their estate. Being discreet is easy on the continent in the bigger countries, less so in UK (esp south). It’s fair to say UK is more dangerous than other countries due to loads of things: the vast amount of feral youth, a high degree of inherent pettiness/nimbyness/intolerance, and the way that anyone in a camper is viewed in the same way as a gypsy or traveller. Cities and towns in UK are absolutely to be avoided if wilding, even villages often have clusters of youths hanging around looking for an opportunity to spoil someone’s day.

In general, there just aren’t the same issues on the continent except maybe bits of southern Italy, and eastern Europe. On the continent the only times we’ve realised we’ve made a mistake has been in remote-ish car parks outside towns in South of France, Italy, Spain and Portugal where the local youth will often congregate for the evening to socialise, often being quite organised and bringing generators and pop up bars etc. This has happened a few times, but interestingly, every time, while noisily drinking and enjoying themselves until 2 or 3am, they always totally ignore the camper - I wouldn’t like to think what would happen parking in a car park where the local youth congregated in UK….

I can answer that last question as recently I was on the front in Teighmouth, the local youngsters turned up with the music and began to party dance and have some fun. They paid no attention to any of the vans the only concerns I had was their choice of music it went boom boom boom , not like that in my day .......when songs had a melody
I thought I had found a nice spot , those in the know, knew that where the kids met up, they live there I was grateful that vans were welcome.