Minimum payload?

[Northernraider]

I prefer to describe it as ‘skilful’

@Hils and Glenns the official mass in running order for our van (as per Hymer) is 2800kg , on top of this we have an awning, satellite dish, extra battery, tv , refillable gas tanks solar panels plus levellers.

If you tell mrjenben (via confidential pm ) what the van is you are looking at he can pm you with the official info for it.

Not sure id say skilful if you're exactly on 3500kg I wouldn't be comfy not having any spare at that.

Couple of cases of beer and you'd be over lol

 

[Markas]

We have never weighed the van empty but with us fully loaded for a trip so all our kit and full of everything water, fuel etc we are bang on 3500kg.

We have weighed ourselves on a local weighbridge and a roll over one in Norway and the same both times,

I'm curious to know what you would have done if you had been over the weight limit in Norway..." Hva meg? Jeg vet ingenting"

 

[Nosmo King]

No such thing as a stupid question remember...
What are the consequences of being overweight (van / bits and bobs, people / fuel / water etc that is, not personally)?

 

[Markas]

No such thing as a stupid question remember...
What are the consequences of being overweight (van / bits and bobs, people / fuel / water etc that is, not personally)?

Overweight bits and bobs sounds nasty!!

 

[Badknee]

When we bought our first moho we were both working but then we went full timers there just wasn’t enough payload so we swapped it in.
As an ex hgv driver max loading was important to me so first thing I did was have the moho upgraded to 5250kgs then started adding extras. Sat dish, solar panels etc. When we were getting ready to be snowbirds we fancied a scoot so I weighed off before hand.
These weights are the fourth lot two days before we set off, Mrs Badknee included, full tanks, full food, the lot.

Axle two and three have to be weighed together.

Axle one 230kgs under

Axle two and three 300kgs under

Max weight 390kgs under

Ready to go.

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[Jenben]

I'm curious to know what you would have done if you had been over the weight limit in Norway..." Hva meg? Jeg vet ingenting"

We had checked the van before and were comfortable that we always run under the limit - in this case we were fully loaded with fuel gas water provisions and gear.
Hymer recommend to only run with 20 litres of water so we were already carrying an extra 80 kilos which can easily be dumped if we needed to take @Northernraider extra beer (though travelling in Norway you would be safe to assume we were already well stocked for at least a months drinking).
Finally the van is actually on an 3850kg chassis so its still perfectly safe near the limit and it’s just a paper exercise to upgrade if we were really worried

 

[Jenben]

If you want to travel with full tanks, 700 kg, 500 kg for your stuff & 200 kg for options & extras.

Agreed. Exactly what we’ve got

 

[Lenny HB]

Hymer recommend to only run with 20 litres of water

Can't even get your morning shower with that we run with tank full 160 Lt.

 

[Northernraider]

Can't even get your morning shower with that we run with tank full 160 Lt.

Me too but don't think mine is that much
I'm thinking 100 or 120 most in mine

 

[gus-lopez]

At the end of the day "too much is not enough" ®

I'm curious to know what you would have done if you had been over the weight limit in Norway..." Hva meg? Jeg vet ingenting"

Me, I'd dispute the accuracy whilst dumping fresh & grey

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[busby]

I look at payload in four stages.
Firstly, when you buy the van/motorhome the additions may have eaten into the advertised payload, including any you ask for.
Secondly you have to add the weight you have no choice with - part of your own weight if you weigh more than 75kg, and the passenger (either all or part). Then there’s fuel and minimum water.
I would then want at least 200kg for clothes, food, cooking utensils, bikes,
Lastly you would want some spare payload for, as Donald Rumsfeld said, known unknowns - you don’t know what you will add but you know you will add things... for us these were a Gasflow system, Automatic Levellers, an inverter. We may add a satellite in future.
So, looking at the above we would have needed at least 750kg.
We chose a 4.5t vehicle for this reason.

Why only your weight over 75 kg..BUSBY.

 

[busby]

Same here, scarey isn't it!

No point in weighing empty van,,It needs to be fully loaded with fuel,,water you would travel with and all passengers,,ie exactly as it would be if you were pulled over and check weighed by the police etc.BUSBY.

 

[busby]

No such thing as a stupid question remember...
What are the consequences of being overweight (van / bits and bobs, people / fuel / water etc that is, not personally)?

Consequences are its illegal and carries a fine if caught,,BUSBY.

 

[Conal]

Busby
Autotrail allow 75kg for the driver. Unfortunately I am considerably more than that.

 

[busby]

Busby
Autotrail allow 75kg for the driver. Unfortunately I am considerably more than that.

Trouble is manufacturers are not very reliable with the truth concerning weights of their vans..Weighbridge is only option,,BUSBY.

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[Nirvanauk]

No point in weighing empty van,,It needs to be fully loaded with fuel,,water you would travel with and all passengers,,ie exactly as it would be if you were pulled over and check weighed by the police etc.BUSBY.

Only ever weigh the van full. That’s the scarey bit as it’s right on 3500.

 

[suavecarve]

I bought a set of weighing scales.
They are from Reich so google "Reich caravan weighing scales"
They range in cost from just over £100 to significantly more. I think the cheapest ones came direct from themanufacturer in Germany
You need to take note of what they weigh up to, Some only go up to 1000kgs which isnt very helpful.
I bought a set that go up to 2000kgs
They weigh each tyre so you will need to run over them at least 4 times and then either use a calculator or the clever one scan do it in their head.
Then you will know exactly (they are accurate as i and others have checked and generally considered to be more accurate than weighbridges as they go in 10 or 20kgs jumps)
It weighs about 2 kgs so i weigh the van before i leave and determine whether i can take them with me!

My weighing scales are available to borrow in deepest darkest hants surrey border or Guildford when i am at work but this year they will be on tour in Provence

 

[Rosemary1]

You don't need to weigh everything individually, just lump the smaller stuff into boxes, washing baskets, bags etc and weigh them, it shouldn't take much time to do so and then at least you'll know what your basic kit is in order to make an educated decision, without doing this you really don't have a clue.

It’s what we did the first time with a new motorhome. You have got to carry it in so just stick everything on the scales as you do and jot it on a list. It’s surprising how it all added up (something’s then went back in the garage until we got the upgrade!)

 

[Lenny HB]

Trouble is manufacturers are not very reliable with the truth concerning weights of their vans..Weighbridge is only option,,BUSBY.

Depends on the manufacturer, Hymer are pretty reliable our first two were both 30kg under, current one 16kg over - not bad. Every one I know with a Carthago about 130 kg over.

 

[Minxy]

Depends on the manufacturer, Hymer are pretty reliable our first two were both 30kg under, current one 16kg over - not bad. Every one I know with a Carthago about 130 kg over.

Is that why you didn't by a Carthago then 'fatty'!

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[Lenny HB]

Is that why you didn't by a Carthago then 'fatty'!

I'll have you know I am under the German regulation limt of 75kg for a Motorhome driver.
You have just lost your hot young chick status.

 

[Minxy]

I'll have you I am under the German regulation limt of 75kg for a Motorhome driver.
You have just lost your hot young chick status.

Phew ... that's a relief!

 

[scotzsue]

We usually go over te weighbridge before catching the ferry, day before not immediately before. Especially since carrying a motorbike, not been overweight yet or had to re arrange the load. Since our first trip, abroad, in January, we usually have a fair amount of water with us. So if needed that could be dumped giving us an extra 120kg
Take as few books as possible after weighing what we took on our first trip. Thank goodness for Kindles.

 

[Rosemary1]

I'll have you know I am under the German regulation limt of 75kg for a Motorhome driver.
You have just lost your hot young chick status.

Oooo - can I have it please? I am not young, not a bird but do get hot flushes - pretty please

 

[john lillie]

recently bought(then sold) a Hymer C class coachbuilt, plated at 3500kg, with half a tank of diesel, half a tank of water, some bedding, kitchen gear, no passengers, weighed in at 3440kg! If I got in to drive it, we were overweight! Moved back to an A class with payload of 700kg

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[G-RMPS]

Our A class Hymer is marginal. With full fuel, full gas, full fresh water (I know Hymer recommend 20l), and two on board we have about 150kg residual payload. The only retrofitted option is the awning.

 

[suavecarve]

Our rollerteam 690 at 3500 forced us to become naturists

 

[G-RMPS]

Our A class Hymer is marginal. With full fuel, full gas, full fresh water (I know Hymer recommend 20l), and two on board we have about 150kg residual payload. The only retrofitted option is the awning.

Correction: 70kg

 

[POH]

Hi to all, I am going to the weighbridge soon for the first time , which is the best way to do it IE, everything in the van that we normally take less fresh/waste water ,never travel with full water as don't see the point of dragging 100+ kilo around eating into my MPG or weigh empty . Do the manufacturers not allow in their calculations the driver and a full tank of fuel before payload (think I read it somewhere) please be kind to me as still learning

 

[G-RMPS]

Fill as full of everything (people, water, fuel, gas, food/clothes/possessions etc.) as you are ever likely to need. Then add an estimate for the wine/cheese etc. for the return trip. That’s the only real weight that’s meaningful.

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