Maybe no entry to France for UK citizens after 31 Dec because of high infection rate in UK

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gus-lopez said:
Err ,they are in the EU also ? It is EU rules on 3rd countries.Which UK will be on 1st january

As above nothing to do with it .3rd country as from 1st January . Only aussies& NZ allowed in at the moment Even the U.S. Haven't been allowed in to the EU directly for 6 or 7 months.

as above Existing EU rules. You've gone from being part of the EU to looky-looky men , as my African friend delighted in telling me many months ago😂😂
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gus-lopez said:
Err ,they are in the EU also ? It is EU rules on 3rd countries.Which UK will be on 1st january

As above nothing to do with it .3rd country as from 1st January . Only aussies& NZ allowed in at the moment Even the U.S. Haven't been allowed in to the EU directly for 6 or 7 months.

as above Existing EU rules. You've gone from being part of the EU to looky-looky men , as my African friend delighted in telling me many months ago😂😂
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Very good! 'You like buy my extremely expensive lamb or fish mr?'
 
So as Gus reveals, NOTHING TO DO WITH INFECTION RATE
Lets call it a Daily Mail Headline 😄
 
Cheshirecat57 said:
Respectfully, my numbers are the total infections( since day one) per million population note the word Total
And the uk per 100k rate is falling against Frances rising
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Isnt a "Total" infection "Rate" a bit of an oxymoron ?

Under the same counting system The Wanderers (if they exist) are a better football team in knock out competitions than West Ham as since the FA Cup was introduced they have won it 5 times and West Ham only won it 3 times.
 
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According to a news broadcast today the 3rd country rule is capable of being changed by individual countries depending on their own circumstances.

I don’t know if that is correct but, if so, it could be interesting to see e.g. Portugal taking all the Brit tourist business from France.

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Don’t worry, everything will be fine by Friday 18th June 2021.

How do I know?.......My son lives in the Netherlands, his work colleague is French. His work colleague has invited me to the semi finals of the Top 14 (Rugby) in Lille.

What could go wrong? :censored: 😁
 
suavecarve said:
Out of interest where do you find the EU average on a daily basis?
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Respectfully (!) I don't know. I have not found an official figure, and I don't know what kind of average they mean. But the EU say that the UK figure is higher than the EU average and therefore the UK will not be on the very small "safe" list; and on that last point, if they say so, then it is so.
 
suavecarve said:
Isnt a "Total" infection "Rate" a bit of an oxymoron ?

Under the same counting system The Wanderers (if they exist) are a better football team in knock out competitions than West Ham as since the FA Cup was introduced they have won it 5 times and West Ham only won it 3 times.
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Ok whatever you say
 
EdwardFT said:
Respectfully (!) I don't know. I have not found an official figure, and I don't know what kind of average they mean. But the EU say that the UK figure is higher than the EU average and therefore the UK will not be on the very small "safe" list; and on that last point, if they say so, then it is so.
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I worked it out rudimentally to be 157. 450 million residents. Current average of 204,000 infections per day so divided the 450,000,000 by 204,000 and divided that by the 14 days to get the 157 which may or may not make sense

And on your last point, Too right. I may be one of the ones that want to go away (In May) but only if legal and it is their choice because we made ours and theirs should be respected as much as ours should be.
 
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suavecarve said:
I worked it out rudimentally to be 157. 450 million residents. Current average of 204,000 infections per day so divided the 450,000,000 by 204,000 and divided that by the 14 days to get the 157 which may or may not make sense

And on your last point, Too right. I may be one of the ones that want to go away (In May) but only if legal and it is their choice because we made ours and theirs should be respected as much as ours should be.
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Well that's part of what I meant about "what kind of average". For example, your calculation looks right for averaging over population, but if they average over countries the result for the EU average would be lower, because smaller countries happen to have lower rates per population.

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The general said:
Basically they are trying to make an example of us , they fear other countries wanting out
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Of course. Anyone with a grain of common sense will realise that EU politicians can't allow a member state to leave and be better off outside without risking a flood of of leave applications. We even saw a FREXIT sign the last time we were in France.
 
emjaiuk said:
Of course. Anyone with a grain of common sense will realise that EU politicians can't allow a member state to leave and be better off outside without risking a flood of of leave applications. We even saw a FREXIT sign the last time we were in France.
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Yes there have been rumblings of a Frexit, but I don not think it will happen. The French tend to look at EU regs and consider "are these rules good for us?" if yes they adopt them, if no, they tend to ignore them. GB plays (ed) by the rules and adopted everything then played hell afterwards.

Could be wrong, I often am.

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filopastry said:
Yes there have been rumblings of a Frexit, but I don not think it will happen. The French tend to look at EU regs and consider "are these rules good for us?" if yes they adopt them, if no, they tend to ignore them. GB plays (ed) by the rules and adopted everything then played hell afterwards.

Could be wrong, I often am.
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Same in Poland, as I know to my cost with a current problem.

Geoff
 
These rules have been in place for over 6 months for people entering EU from "third countries", that is why there are so few yanks in France this year.......... The loophole for Americans was flying to uk and then Eurotunnel to Paris, but that is obv shutting. This is not the EU punishing anyone, it is them giving the UK exactly what it supposedly voted for..........................
 
Of course, i should have mentioned, the third country entry restrictions are completely arbitrary and can be ignored by any EU member sovereign nation as it sees fit ................................... :reel:
 
Mickthemove said:
These rules have been in place for over 6 months for people entering EU from "third countries", that is why there are so few yanks in France this year.......... The loophole for Americans was flying to uk and then Eurotunnel to Paris, but that is obv shutting. This is not the EU punishing anyone, it is them giving the UK exactly what it supposedly voted for..........................
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I voted for lots mire than this as well, just so you know
I have MASSIVE faith in the free market, and I cannot see anytime soon ( post Covid of course) that SPAIN dont want my English pounds,
 
filopastry said:
Yes there have been rumblings of a Frexit, but I don not think it will happen. The French tend to look at EU regs and consider "are these rules good for us?" if yes they adopt them, if no, they tend to ignore them. GB plays (ed) by the rules and adopted everything then played hell afterwards.

Could be wrong, I often am.
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No you're not!
If you speak to most French folks (except Parisians, 'cause they're not really French), you'll find they think the UK were mad to vote leave. They, like the Dutch, Spanish and many others think that the UK had one of the best deals within the EU.
Oh, I could go on but life is too short and I have a nearly full glass of Merlot looking at me and it needs to be savoured, slowly
 
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Cheshirecat57 said:
I voted for lots mire than this as well, just so you know
I have MASSIVE faith in the free market, and I cannot see anytime soon ( post Covid of course) that SPAIN dont want my English pounds,
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Good for you, and of course they will want your dosh as a tourist, just like the French want the dollar from the yanks, they will even give you a special lanes for non EU traffic at the point of entry, just another benefit of the sunny uplands,

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Cheshirecat57 said:
I voted for lots mire than this as well, just so you know
I have MASSIVE faith in the free market, and I cannot see anytime soon ( post Covid of course) that SPAIN dont want my English pounds,
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True possibly but how do you get there? Through France? they might not allow it ? Boat to Northern spain ? Oh, the French own them also .:giggler:
If they want to make it difficult it doesn't take much.
 
Mickthemove said:
Good for you, and of course they will want your dosh as a tourist, just like the French want the dollar from the yanks, they will even give you a special lanes for non EU traffic at the point of entry, just another benefit of the sunny uplands,
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I will be flying if i go to Spain
 
emjaiuk said:
Of course. Anyone with a grain of common sense will realise that EU politicians can't allow a member state to leave and be better off outside without risking a flood of of leave applications. We even saw a FREXIT sign the last time we were in France.
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Common sense I would have thought.

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