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Nice use namees to tempt you so came away with two full cylinders of gas plus a new table and a new chair !!!
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Nice use namees to tempt you so came away with two full cylinders of gas plus a new table and a new chair !!!
What an amazing app. So much better than the desktop sites. Even found the little station on the isle of manGo to the App Store on your phone or tablet and install my LPG.eu and that way you will have the nearest LPG filling point and also the price per litre also I have found that a lot of motorhome dealerships have a bulk tank to fill up your refillable bottles often they will offer you a free coffee while a member of staff takes your motorhome to the workshop to fill your system be very careful!!! Your free coffee will be put just outside of their SHOP with all the goodies to tempt you so came away with two full cylinders of gas plus a new table and a new chair !!!
Not really a viable option. There are two methods:Question..... Is it possible to CONVERT diesel engines to LPG??
I thought you could only convert petrol engines.
Apologies if I am talking Sh@@e.
It is near impossible to convert a Diesel engine to run on LPG. Any vehicle running LPG is emitting the same amount of CO2 as a petrol / Diesel vehicle. I can't see any incentive to run LPG in future. None of the LPG infrastructure (such as it is) is suitable for hydrogen distribution.I think that they’re making a mistake if they’re taking LPG out o forecourts.
The future is looking like going in two directions at the moment.
One being electric and the other being Gas.
Hydrogen is being tested and rolled out by the majority of the vehicle manufacturers and although driving range is massive compared with electric, outlets are currently focussed on electric charging rather than hydrogen pump outlets. (Google Hydrogen vehicle pumps in the UK and you’ll see there’s currently only a handful, probably due to gas being in it’s infancy with manufacturers).
It won’t be long before everyone realises that if Hydrogen is another way forward for fuelling vehicles - which it has been identified as being, manufacturers and gas producers will realise that all of our diesels currently on the road would be better being converted to LPG. 1) to help reduce emissions and 2) to help with reducing the sale of diesel as a forecourt fuel and 3) gas producers will react to market demand - as they currently are because not many are thinking about what to do with their current diesl.
If you think that manufacturers in the last year that they’re allowed to sell a new diesel car in the UK, will look to discount them massively as new buyers will be thinking twice about their resale value before they’ve even bought it from new.
The second hand car market will see a dip in diesel as tax will probably have to change to incentivise further to move away from diesel.
So all of these cars will be still on the road or still available at a dealer and if you think that a typical diesel isn’t seen as being ‘run in’ until it’s got 30-40k on the clock. So diesels are here to stay for a while yet and LPG will be looked at again I feel.
They actually produce more heat and require better cooling systems.Diesel engines run cooler
They actually produce more heat and require better cooling systems.
The reason a Diesel engine uses less fuel than a petrol engine (in terms of mpg) is that Diesel has a higher fuel value:Bit of an odd one this. Had to google it. It seems the diesel is hotter during combustion but expands the hot gas better resulting in a lower exhaust gas temperature. Many people complain of their diesel car heater not being very good on short runs, this may be due to the heavier construction of the diesel taking longer to heat. So not certain now about which runs hotter and which needs the best cooling system due to the different way the heat is produced. Over to you TonyIdle
Firstly, nothing is impossible. It may not be done now but doesn’t mean to say that it can’t be done in the future.It is near impossible to convert a Diesel engine to run on LPG. Any vehicle running LPG is emitting the same amount of CO2 as a petrol / Diesel vehicle. I can't see any incentive to run LPG in future. None of the LPG infrastructure (such as it is) is suitable for hydrogen distribution.
Maybe, but the replacement for battery powered EV isn't off the drawing board yet - if it's on it - right?<snip>
I suspect electric cars will be a bit of a flash in the pan.
As realistically they re only good for short urban trips, and the long term solution for short urban trips is (electric?) bicycles, public transport and (automated) taxis.
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It can be done. It's currently expensive because not many people do it because they have a diesel for the cost savings against the mileage they do, but if the option of diesel goes and there's a market to convert the current diesels on the road and those that the manufacturers are yet to sell up until the ban comes in, it will be explored more.The shipping world is looking to move to LPG to power the much of world fleet in the next decade or so.
(90% of everything around you, what you wear and what you eat got to you by ship)
Shipping over the last 150 years has moved from wind, to coal, to heavy fuel oil (basically crude oil), to diesel, and now moving to LPG.
I suspect electric cars will be a bit of a flash in the pan.
As realistically they re only good for short urban trips, and the long term solution for short urban trips is (electric?) bicycles, public transport and (automated) taxis.
Freight I suspect may move to LPG, and long distance cars may follow
LPG is, as you say, one of cleanest hydrocarbon fuels. It would be considerably cheaper to change a Diesel engine for a spark ignition equivalent than to convert the Diesel engine to spark ignition. However any attempt to prolong the life of ICE would be effort better spent on EV and their required infrastructure. Given the stated intention to rapidly phase out ICE and the equally rapid developments in EV and batteries there won't be any further interest in LPG. IMO of course .Firstly, nothing is impossible. It may not be done now but doesn’t mean to say that it can’t be done in the future.
Diesel emits more CO2 than petrol. Otherwise, petrol cars would have been banned at the forecourt like diesels planned to be.
I’ve never said that the current LPG infrastructure would be suitable for hydrogen distribution. What I have said is to Google where you can buy hydrogen for vehicle refuelling and it’s a lot less than how many outlets sell LPG.
I believe(my personal view) that manufacturers will go back to looking at LPG.
The infrastructure is there. More than what can be said about other fuelled options that are being looked at.
We used to have 17t fork lift trucks that were lpg.LPG is, as you say, one of cleanest hydrocarbon fuels. It would be considerably cheaper to change a Diesel engine for a spark ignition equivalent than to convert the Diesel engine to spark ignition. However any attempt to prolong the life of ICE would be effort better spent on EV and their required infrastructure. Given the stated intention to rapidly phase out ICE and the equally rapid developments in EV and batteries there won't be any further interest in LPG. IMO of course .
To be fair, that sounds like a bad model, possibly where they have taken a diesel design and then converted it to be LPG as opposed to design from scratch.We used to have 17t fork lift trucks that were lpg.
IMO they were not fit for purpose... woofully underpowered and struggled to lift anywhere near 17t.
Got rid of in under a year and went back to diesel.
I agree totally.. we had 3... all Hysters all useless..To be fair, that sounds like a bad model, possibly where they have taken a diesel design and then converted it to be LPG as opposed to design from scratch.
There is no reason an LPG powered fork lift can't lift 17t or go as fast as a diesel.
If you can power 50,000 tonnes of ship at 22 knots on LPG, I'm sure you can do a 17t Fork Lift at 20 mph
Did i not read a few days ago that the new Brittany ferry coming soon is gas powered...The shipping world is looking to move to LPG to power the much of world fleet in the next decade or so.
(90% of everything around you, what you wear and what you eat got to you by ship)
Shipping over the last 150 years has moved from wind, to coal, to heavy fuel oil (basically crude oil), to diesel, and now moving to LPG.
I suspect electric cars will be a bit of a flash in the pan.
As realistically they re only good for short urban trips, and the long term solution for short urban trips is (electric?) bicycles, public transport and (automated) taxis.
Freight I suspect may move to LPG, and long distance cars may follow
You did indeed.. and not only one. Think they planning 3 or 4.Did i not read a few days ago that the new Brittany ferry coming soon is gas powered...
That's one of the funniest things I have ever read!I suspect electric cars will be a bit of a flash in the pan.
As realistically they re only good for short urban trips
That's one of the funniest things I have ever read!
Do you have any idea of the investment some legacy car manufacturers are making in EV development.
There will be at least 20 new electric vehicles released this year, from the likes of VW, Audi, Nissan, Lexus.
A lot of EV's now have ranges between 250 to 300 miles.
I guess they may be a flash in the pan compared to the history of the universe, but otherwise I think not!
Global sales of electric cars accelerate fast in 2020 despite pandemic
Sales of electric cars rose by 43% while overall car sales slumped by a fifth last yearwww.google.com
Full dusclosure: I have had an electric car for just over a year. It has a range of around 190 miles, it is the best car I have ever driven.
Road Freight will NOT move to LPGThe shipping world is looking to move to LPG to power the much of world fleet in the next decade or so.
(90% of everything around you, what you wear and what you eat got to you by ship)
Shipping over the last 150 years has moved from wind, to coal, to heavy fuel oil (basically crude oil), to diesel, and now moving to LPG.
I suspect electric cars will be a bit of a flash in the pan.
As realistically they re only good for short urban trips, and the long term solution for short urban trips is (electric?) bicycles, public transport and (automated) taxis.
Freight I suspect may move to LPG, and long distance cars may follow
I have a feeling stena fastcraft are gas powered. But I might be wrong.Did i not read a few days ago that the new Brittany ferry coming soon is gas powered...
The gas turbines on the fast ferries are water jets powered by kerosene. Impressively quick with over 100,000 SHP but Very expensive to run. Stena are developing LNG powered large tankers plus an increasing number of shipping companies (the usual suspects MSC, CMA CGM, Mitsui etc) have developed LNG powered box boats. They may be regretting that decision soon as LNG prices are on the upI have a feeling stena fastcraft are gas powered. But I might be wrong.
There are a whole number of fuels being looked at and developed. Ships fuels have been my job for many years and still work as consultant:The shipping world is looking to move to LPG to power the much of world fleet in the next decade or so.
(90% of everything around you, what you wear and what you eat got to you by ship)
Shipping over the last 150 years has moved from wind, to coal, to heavy fuel oil (basically crude oil), to diesel, and now moving to LPG.
I suspect electric cars will be a bit of a flash in the pan.
As realistically they re only good for short urban trips, and the long term solution for short urban trips is (electric?) bicycles, public transport and (automated) taxis.
Freight I suspect may move to LPG, and long distance cars may follow
Massed seagulls in harness, I like it.Could always go the whole hog on shipping and go back to those big white flappy things...